Boban1: Have to admit ,that I don`t really know much about itbut don`t you find it rather strange that always the winner writes the history... and how always the bigger (stronger ) determents who`s the terrorist
One man's freedom fighter is another man terrorist... The former being the poor man viewpoint and the latter being the view of the wealth ruling class
russianbandit49OPanderson, South Carolina USA303 posts
Steve5721: Nor accept FACTS when so presented in an educated, calm and a non attacking way.
RB.....no-one is attacking you at all. You must understand this and accept that a debate has two sides to it...not just one.
well i think you have been rude to me. so i,m only defending myself. you may not think you did. in was in the words that you typed. i know debate has two sides.
russianbandit49: well i think you have been rude to me. so i,m only defending myself. you may not think you did. in was in the words that you typed. i know debate has two sides.
Having just read through this entire thread I cannot see where anyone has attacked you nor where anyone has been rude to you. The only thing I can see is that you sir need to do some research..and learn how a debate actually works.
russianbandit49OPanderson, South Carolina USA303 posts
so this line is not being rude.[.you come from Ireland and would know these things first-hand ,] BTW who ask you to butt into this thing anyway. butt out.
russianbandit49OPanderson, South Carolina USA303 posts
cincity: Having just read through this entire thread I cannot see where anyone has attacked you nor where anyone has been rude to you. The only thing I can see is that you sir need to do some research..and learn how a debate actually works.
russianbandit49: so this line is not being rude.[.you come from Ireland and would know these things first-hand ,] BTW who ask you to butt into this thing anyway. butt out.
No it's not being rude, it's a statement of opinion..... And I figure that I do know far more about the situation in the North of my country than you do.... So that would make it an accurate statement of opinion..... That said time to exit another car crash thread... BYE
russianbandit49: so this line is not being rude.[.you come from Ireland and would know these things first-hand ,] BTW who ask you to butt into this thing anyway. butt out.
That part quote wasn't even aimed at YOU!!! As you can see and as I have already said and again, you appear to have misunderstood as a rude comment aimed at you. Look again at the post you have just quoted and you will see it had NOTHING to do with you but was in a post to Bjk68..as already pointed out to you once.
bjk68: No it's not being rude, it's a statement of opinion..... And I figure that I do know far more about the situation in the North of my country than you do.... So that would make it an accurate statement of opinion..... That said time to exit another car crash thread... BYE
Apart from that Bjk68...it was merely pointing out to our learned friend that YOU would know more than he because you were from the very country where it all happened.
russianbandit49: do you believe the IRA are terrorist or freedom fighters.
Totally depends what side of the fence you are on.
The IRA originally were a well organized, well educated movement purely designed to bring about a United Ireland. Internal bickering caused factions to splinter off which then caused the Civil War.
The Provisional IRA's methods were generally not supported by the majority of the Irish population.
Sinn Fein now keep the political wing of the Republic alive in British politics. Gerry Adams is actually an educated man, although he is somewhat stuck in the past and his ideas are now misguided and unworkable.
DodgeBabe: Totally depends what side of the fence you are on.
The IRA originally were a well organized, well educated movement purely designed to bring about a United Ireland. Internal bickering caused factions to splinter off which then caused the Civil War.
The Provisional IRA's methods were generally not supported by the majority of the Irish population.
Sinn Fein now keep the political wing of the Republic alive in British politics. Gerry Adams is actually an educated man, although he is somewhat stuck in the past and his ideas are now misguided and unworkable.
Evening A.
As always an informed post. Mr Adams is however not as stuck in the past as you may think.... many aspects of the republican movement needed and still need coaxing both into and to continue with the process...... He is very well adapted to this role
russianbandit49OPanderson, South Carolina USA303 posts
i cant disagree. it all in what side you live on. like uk sure think IRA are terrorist. but parts of Ireland think there freedom fighter. like in usa we call Taliban terrorist in Afghanistan there freedom fighters. it all how you look at things.
As always an informed post. Mr Adams is however not as stuck in the past as you may think.... many aspects of the republican movement needed and still need coaxing both into and to continue with the process...... He is very well adapted to this role
Good evening to you, Sir..
Yes, true, I guess. I just think he needs to do MORE to distance himself from the miliary faction, as that will always be Sinn Fein's hinderance in world politics.
I have personally always believed in a United Ireland, have done extensive historical research and have tried to remain open minded. I grew up with a Catholic, Republican father and a Protestant English mother so I experienced both sides of the argument.
As usual, the Irish could not resist fighting amongst themselves. If they had unified many centuries ago, I believe we would be now experiencing a strong, unified and prosperous Ireland, and the concept of North and South divides would be a thing of nightmares only.
russianbandit49: i cant disagree. it all in what side you live on. like uk sure think IRA are terrorist. but parts of Ireland think there freedom fighter. like in usa we call Taliban terrorist in Afghanistan there freedom fighters. it all how you look at things.
I get your point.
However the taliban, are to most people, other than members of the taliban, just carzy murdering lunatics..... Didn't they hope public mass executions in the stadium in Kabhul.... weekly/ monthly
Report threads that break rules, are offensive, or contain fighting. Staff may not be aware of the forum abuse, and cannot do anything about it unless you tell us about it. click to report forum abuse »
If one of the comments is offensive, please report the comment instead (there is a link in each comment to report it).
Have to admit ,that I don`t really know much about it
but don`t you find it rather strange that always the winner writes the history... and how always the bigger (stronger ) determents who`s the terrorist