In the history of the world, there has never been anybody like Jesus. (173)
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ooby_dooby: I would love to see someone nail a recently dead man to a cross just like it is portrayed in the bible, and hoist him up into the vertical position and watch the body come crashing to the ground as the nails rip their way out of his hands. That would pretty much put an end to THAT myth.
Thats exactly my point!
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ooby_dooby: I would love to see someone nail a recently dead man to a cross just like it is portrayed in the bible, and hoist him up into the vertical position and watch the body come crashing to the ground as the nails rip their way out of his hands. That would pretty much put an end to THAT myth.
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The next couple of posts are for people who know Jesus... Enjoy! 
The Bible says my King is a seven-way King:
He's the King of the Jews - that's a racial King.
He's the King of Israel - that's a national King.
He's the King of Righteousness.
He's the King of the Ages.
He's the King of Heaven.
He's the King of Glory.
He's the King of kings and He's the Lord of lords.
That's my King.
Well, I wonder do you know Him.
David said, "The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament showeth His handiwork."
My King is a sovereign King - no means of measure can define His limitless love.
No farseeing telescope can bring into visibility the coastline of His shoreless supply.
No barrier can hinder Him from pouring out His blessings.
He's enduringly strong.
He's entirely sincere.
He's eternally steadfast.
He's immortally graceful.
He's imperially powerful.
He's impartially merciful.
Do you know Him?
The Bible says my King is a seven-way King:
He's the King of the Jews - that's a racial King.
He's the King of Israel - that's a national King.
He's the King of Righteousness.
He's the King of the Ages.
He's the King of Heaven.
He's the King of Glory.
He's the King of kings and He's the Lord of lords.
That's my King.
Well, I wonder do you know Him.
David said, "The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament showeth His handiwork."
My King is a sovereign King - no means of measure can define His limitless love.
No farseeing telescope can bring into visibility the coastline of His shoreless supply.
No barrier can hinder Him from pouring out His blessings.
He's enduringly strong.
He's entirely sincere.
He's eternally steadfast.
He's immortally graceful.
He's imperially powerful.
He's impartially merciful.
Do you know Him?
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He's the greatest phenomenon that has ever crossed the horizon of this world.
He's God's Son.
He's the sinner's Saviour.
He's the centrepiece of civilisation.
He stands in the solitude of himself.
He's august and He's unique.
He's unparalleled, He's unprecedented.
He is the loftiest idea in literature.
He's the highest personality in philosophy.
He is the supreme problem in higher criticism.
He's the fundamental doctrine of true theology.
He is the core and the necessity for spiritual religion.
He's the miracle of the age, He's... yes He is.
He's the superlative of everything good that you choose to call Him.
He's the only one qualified to be an all-sufficient Saviour.
I wonder if you know him today?
He supplies strength for the weak.
He's available for the tempted and the tried.
He sympathises and He saves.
He strengthens and sustains.
He guards and He guides.
He heals the sick.
He cleansed the lepers.
He forgives sinners.
He discharges debtors.
He delivers the captive.
He defends the feeble.
He blesses the young.
He serves the unfortunate.
He regards the aged.
He rewards the diligent.
And He beautifies the meek.
I wonder if you know Him? Well, my King---
He is the key, He's the key to knowledge.
He's the wellspring of wisdom.
He's the doorway of deliverance.
He's the pathway of peace.
He's the roadway of righteousness.
He's the highway of holiness.
He's the gateway of glory.
Do you know Him?
He's God's Son.
He's the sinner's Saviour.
He's the centrepiece of civilisation.
He stands in the solitude of himself.
He's august and He's unique.
He's unparalleled, He's unprecedented.
He is the loftiest idea in literature.
He's the highest personality in philosophy.
He is the supreme problem in higher criticism.
He's the fundamental doctrine of true theology.
He is the core and the necessity for spiritual religion.
He's the miracle of the age, He's... yes He is.
He's the superlative of everything good that you choose to call Him.
He's the only one qualified to be an all-sufficient Saviour.
I wonder if you know him today?
He supplies strength for the weak.
He's available for the tempted and the tried.
He sympathises and He saves.
He strengthens and sustains.
He guards and He guides.
He heals the sick.
He cleansed the lepers.
He forgives sinners.
He discharges debtors.
He delivers the captive.
He defends the feeble.
He blesses the young.
He serves the unfortunate.
He regards the aged.
He rewards the diligent.
And He beautifies the meek.
I wonder if you know Him? Well, my King---
He is the key, He's the key to knowledge.
He's the wellspring of wisdom.
He's the doorway of deliverance.
He's the pathway of peace.
He's the roadway of righteousness.
He's the highway of holiness.
He's the gateway of glory.
Do you know Him?
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Well, His office is manifold.
His promise is sure.
His life is matchless.
His goodness is limitless.
His mercy is everlasting.
His love never changes.
His Word is enough.
His grace is sufficient.
His reign is righteous and
His yoke is easy and
His burden is light.
I wish I could describe Him to you.
But He's indes... Wooah, yeaaah! yeaahh,
He's indescribable - yes He is ! He's God.
He's, He's indescribable, yes, He's indescribable.
He's incomprehensible.
He's invincible.
He's irresistible.
Well, you can't get Him out of your mind,
You get Him off of your hand,
You can't outlive Him, and you can't live without Him.
Well, the Pharisees couldn't stand Him, but they found out they couldn't stop Him.
Pilate couldn't find any fault in Him.
The witnesses couldn't get their testimonies to agree.
Herod couldn't kill Him.
Death couldn't handle Him and
the grave couldn't hold Him. Yeah !
THAT'S MY KING !
THAT'S MY KING ! YEAH !
And Thine is the Kingdom the power and the glory forever and ever
and ever and ever.
How long is that ?
And ever and ever.
And when you get through all the forevers, then
Amen !
GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY ! AMEN ! AMEN !
His promise is sure.
His life is matchless.
His goodness is limitless.
His mercy is everlasting.
His love never changes.
His Word is enough.
His grace is sufficient.
His reign is righteous and
His yoke is easy and
His burden is light.
I wish I could describe Him to you.
But He's indes... Wooah, yeaaah! yeaahh,
He's indescribable - yes He is ! He's God.
He's, He's indescribable, yes, He's indescribable.
He's incomprehensible.
He's invincible.
He's irresistible.
Well, you can't get Him out of your mind,
You get Him off of your hand,
You can't outlive Him, and you can't live without Him.
Well, the Pharisees couldn't stand Him, but they found out they couldn't stop Him.
Pilate couldn't find any fault in Him.
The witnesses couldn't get their testimonies to agree.
Herod couldn't kill Him.
Death couldn't handle Him and
the grave couldn't hold Him. Yeah !
THAT'S MY KING !
THAT'S MY KING ! YEAH !
And Thine is the Kingdom the power and the glory forever and ever
and ever and ever.
How long is that ?
And ever and ever.
And when you get through all the forevers, then
Amen !
GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY ! AMEN ! AMEN !
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RillyNiceGuy: I hope your son and those who serve shall be safe always. The world fights for gain.
Those who come in the name of Christ except for the true church fight for the same gain.....they are not God's People. They are of thier father the Devil.
There is the world and there is the worldly churches.....they think they do God's will.
I am far from being as I should to be part of the true Church due to the worldly chuches and the hell (not biblical but Earthly) they have put me through. I have much to overcome, but I have learned much.
But there is a true Church who have no part in the sins of the nominal churches.
If you seek the faith as it should be.....I will be glad to give you places to get freely and without money grabbing, no one will call or bother you, .....information and teachings....Then you shall know the faith and Gospel brought by Christ from the Father.
Do not place the sins of a deceived people who think they serve God.....upon the Father whom you yet do not know and the world mostly does not know yet!
I understand your stand....but you have been kept blind by those who come in Christ's name but have deceived you and the whole world.
Which one is the true church?Those who come in the name of Christ except for the true church fight for the same gain.....they are not God's People. They are of thier father the Devil.
There is the world and there is the worldly churches.....they think they do God's will.
I am far from being as I should to be part of the true Church due to the worldly chuches and the hell (not biblical but Earthly) they have put me through. I have much to overcome, but I have learned much.
But there is a true Church who have no part in the sins of the nominal churches.
If you seek the faith as it should be.....I will be glad to give you places to get freely and without money grabbing, no one will call or bother you, .....information and teachings....Then you shall know the faith and Gospel brought by Christ from the Father.
Do not place the sins of a deceived people who think they serve God.....upon the Father whom you yet do not know and the world mostly does not know yet!
I understand your stand....but you have been kept blind by those who come in Christ's name but have deceived you and the whole world.
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ooby_dooby: I would love to see someone nail a recently dead man to a cross just like it is portrayed in the bible, and hoist him up into the vertical position and watch the body come crashing to the ground as the nails rip their way out of his hands. That would pretty much put an end to THAT myth.
Hm, check this out:
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invinciblemuse: Hm, check this out:
Hmmmm..check it out indeed and you will see that the 3rd picture of the bloke nailed to the cross is also TIED by the wrists to that cross too...as they all are.
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ironman57321: Which one is the true church?
the one in the middle ...
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swordfish44: A lot do actually, but you don't turn your back on doctors altogether, that would be ignorant. Jesus is capable of healing and that has been proved over and over, only he doesn't heal everyone....we all have a certain time on this earth, and we have to die some time... not everyone dies of old age!
Can you imagine if people kept multiplying and nobody every died... the world would be a pretty crowded place I think!
We just have to have faith that the lord knows what he is doing and why he's doing it!
Can you imagine if people kept multiplying and nobody every died... the world would be a pretty crowded place I think!
We just have to have faith that the lord knows what he is doing and why he's doing it!
Ergo god decides who lives and who dies?
I know everyone dies at some stage and not all die of old age...I might be old, but I ain't senile or stupid!!
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Steve5721: Hmmmm..check it out indeed and you will see that the 3rd picture of the bloke nailed to the cross is also TIED by the wrists to that cross too...as they all are.
Exactly Steve,.. I also checked it out,and also I can't see it very clear a lil' piece of wood under there feet, kinda footrest?
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invinciblemuse: Hm, check this out:
The pics show that they have their arms tightened to the cross... this prevents placing too much weigh on the hands. Crucifixion works only if you are hanging by your forearms (hands, wrists etc) coz as the rest of your body pushes down, your lungs collapse.
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Serpenta_Manon: Exactly Steve,.. I also checked it out,and also I can't see it very clear a lil' piece of wood under there feet, kinda footrest?
Em, you expect me to have faith in a God who had his only son tortured to death! And I'm also supposed to kneel infront of the instrument of execution! Can you imagine how the Christian Churches would look today if lethal injection was available?
God knows what extra terrestrials would make of us. No wonder they stay away. We're probably on their commedy channel!
No thankyou!
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MikeHD: Throughout the history of the world, there have been many leaders, dictators, tyrants, military men, conquerors, kings and emperors. Some of them were good men, some even were religious. Many made indelible marks on the world.
But there has only been one Person Who healed the sick and raised the dead. There has only been one Who walked on water and fed the five thousand. In the history of the world there has only been one Person Who was born in order that He might die, Who died that He might rise from the dead, Who rose from the dead that He might be Lord of both the living and the dead; and being Lord of all, He is the only one Who has the authority to give eternal life to all those who believe on Him.
His Name is Jesus.
I am agree ,jesus Christ OR Essa (a.s)is a great messanger of God ,He spread the light of truth on the earth and he is the symbol of Humanity and a Model of respect and dignity ,Love you jesus But there has only been one Person Who healed the sick and raised the dead. There has only been one Who walked on water and fed the five thousand. In the history of the world there has only been one Person Who was born in order that He might die, Who died that He might rise from the dead, Who rose from the dead that He might be Lord of both the living and the dead; and being Lord of all, He is the only one Who has the authority to give eternal life to all those who believe on Him.
His Name is Jesus.
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Serpenta_Manon: Exactly Steve,.. I also checked it out,and also I can't see it very clear a lil' piece of wood under there feet, kinda footrest?
Kinda shot herself in the foot really...or is that nailed?
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thank you very nice words!!! 
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Serpenta_Manon: I'm sorry, just be realistic...
He was not nailed to the cross, his hands would rip out cause of his body weight, If he was nailed, than his whole body would be carried by 1 nail in each hand... Point is, he was simply tied up to the cross, he did not die on the cross, that declare why he escaped out of the cave, and lived happy ever after till he died for real...
He was not nailed to the cross, his hands would rip out cause of his body weight, If he was nailed, than his whole body would be carried by 1 nail in each hand... Point is, he was simply tied up to the cross, he did not die on the cross, that declare why he escaped out of the cave, and lived happy ever after till he died for real...
just to throw something up in the air here.
Stigmata
In this story some goulish doctor did experiments with human limbs nailed to a board and weights attached to see how much weight they would hold.
Suffice to say the hand did not work to support the human body and going through the wrist area did.
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Medsummer: just to throw something up in the air here.
In this story some goulish doctor did experiments with human limbs nailed to a board and weights attached to see how much weight they would hold.
Suffice to say the hand did not work to support the human body and going through the wrist area did.
In this story some goulish doctor did experiments with human limbs nailed to a board and weights attached to see how much weight they would hold.
Suffice to say the hand did not work to support the human body and going through the wrist area did.
just cross out that "stigmata" thing.
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