AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
SilverBirch: So sad to see grown adults championing such a queer futile position. So as to challenge the international community. To posit that their stance is somehow above that of all others. Queer. So when the international community says that all the "land grab' is illegal under "international law" Israel says "Pound sand"
If there was peace then you might have a point but, as you seem to be unaware, since 1948, Arabs have consistently attacked Israel hence, there is no peace to precipitate land captured in war until that occurs. With the refusal of the Palestinians to accept the stoppage of construction in return, recognize Israel as a Jewish state and, with them expecting the world to recognize them as an Islamic one it seems the Palestinians are their own worst enemy.
SilverBirch: Ok, so Israel is supposed to be the first line of defense against a potentially hostile Arab world one that has settled quite well in the US and Europe.
What comic book have you been reading? Cite your sources for this idiocy before wasting time and effort chasing a lie please.
SilverBirch: Not sure I follow any of the last few post. Seems to be quite a bit of self gratification and quite frankly, strange. Has nothing to do with the debate at hand, as usual.
Well,seems they took a Page out of your Playbook!
* Rafik al-Natsheh, senior Fatah official: “We will maintain the resistance [i.e. terrorism] option in all its forms and we will not recognize Israel …Not only don’t we demand that anyone recognize Israel; we don’t recognize Israel ourselves. However, the Palestinian Authority government is required to do it, or else it will not be able to serve the Palestinian people. I am certain that we will hinder all the traitors who wish to remove the resistance option from the movement’s charter†(Ali Waked, ‘Senior Fatah official: We won’t recognize Israel. Fatah official: Movement to display commitment to armed struggle in upcoming convention,’ Yediot Ahronot, July 22, 2009).
* Muhammad Dahlan, former commander of Fatah forces in Gaza: “We do not demand that the Hamas movement recognize Israel. On the contrary, we demand of the Hamas movement not to recognize Israel, because the Fatah movement does not recognize Israel, even todayâ€
Mahmoud Abbas, PA president and Fatah chairman: “I say this clearly: I do not accept the Jewish State, call it what you will.†(Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook, ‘Mahmoud Abbas: “I do not accept the Jewish State, call it what you will,†Palestinian Media Watch, April 28, 2009).
BBAS’ FATAH: HAMAS NEED NOT STOP MURDERING JEWS OR RECOGNIZE ISRAEL
Senior Fatah leader, Nabil Shaath – considered a “moderate†– speaking on behalf of Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah, which controls the Palestinian Authority (PA) last week said that Hamas, the genocide-seeking terrorist group that has controlled Gaza since violently seizing the territory in 2007, need not recognize Israel, nor stop murdering Jews in Israel, nor meet any other demands laid down by the Quartet (the U.S., European Union, Russia and the United Nations).
It appears that the United Nations Organization is now re-writing the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict. The UN site, Question of Palestine: History:
* Does not mention that the Jews accepted the Resolution 181 (II) of 1947, while the Arabs rejected it. * Does not mention that, when the Arab states invaded Palestine in 1948, they called upon the Arab population of Palestine to leave the land, thus creating the Arab refugee problem. * Does not mention the hundreds of thousands of Jews who were expelled from the Arab states and absorbed by cash-stripped Israel, including the Jews expelled from East Jerusalem by the Jordan. * Uses emotionally charged expressions, like exodus of Palestinians, forgetting to explain why these people were not absorbed by the oil-rich Arab states. * Does not mention the Arab boycott of Israel, the Arab terrorism, and the attempts to destroy Israel in 1956 and 1967 (naval blockade), 1948 and 1973 (direct aggression). * Uses the expression indigenous Palestinian population to mean "Arabs", who are not in any way indigenous to Palestine (they came from the Arabian peninsula); moreover, the word "Palestinian" meant a "Jew living in Palestine" until it was adopted by the PLO to mean an "Arab living in Palestine" in 1967. * Does not mention that in the first third of the twentieth century the term "Palestine" included the modern Jordan, whose population is mostly the same Arabs as in "Palestine". * Does not mention that the Arabs have routinely destroyed the Jewish holy sites that came under their control, starting with using the gravestones from the Jerusalem Jewish cemetery to pave roads (1950-ies) through the constant attacks on the Joseph's Tomb these days. * Does not mention that since Jerusalem was united under the Israeli sovereignty in 1967, all confessions enjoyed free access to their religious sites, while in 1947-1967 the Jews were denied access to the Western Wall. * Does not mention that as a result of the peace treaty with Egypt Israel withdrew from the Sinai peninsula, which constitute over 90% of the territories captured in 1967, and that no UN resolution required Israel to withdraw from all the territories it captured while defending herself from the Arab aggressions.
Conrad73: Are you starting from the beginning of your Circular Argument again?
The Composition of the UN ought to give you a Clew! But you're too blind!SB:"Yes the little cow. The stupid goy. That slowly raises his head. Slowly starts to question. Slowly, like the German in pre-war Germany. Wonders? Why? Why does this tribe, many times beaten down, many times? How many more times?"
Recognize that?
An Arab terror organization promises to make no wind till after the U.S. elections to not endanger the Democratic chances for Nov 2nd. Now, at least someone loves Obama. And about those houses, they are in Jerusalem. Of course, the Palestinians want their slice of that too, but as usual, they want it for free. They don't recognize Israel's right to exist, they didn't stop the attacks from Gaza during all the time of talks. The whole negotiation is a dead birth if one side gives nothing and the other is forced to bend over backwards by it's own ally ... well, that is if anyone can look at the U.S. as an ally these days.
The anti-Israel stance of the UN is a natural consequence of its membership structure. 21 members of the UN are Arab countries, and 52 members represent Islamic countries. Since the Arab Israeli conflict is represented as a religious conflict Israel as the only Jewish state has no chance for a fair hearing in the UN.
Add People like you in the US and Europe,wtf do you expect?
SilverBirch: Not sure I follow any of the last few post. Seems to be quite a bit of self gratification and quite frankly, strange. Has nothing to do with the debate at hand, as usual.
Albertaghost: We went over that one in detail ad nausea in the weeks prior to your last meltdown.
When you do a thread search, use the words Silverbirch and whatever insults you used that got you banned and it will direct you to those particular threads.
Sorry poor fellow, you seemed to have missed the point, again! I was ratted out by one of you fellows for posting , not insults, but my position on the hard ships endured in Gaza as a results of the occupation. This were seen as disrespectful whereas the thread was focused on someone who had just died. And as you know the thread I had started, "Is the Holy Land Holy?" was hi=jacked by your pack and subsequently yanked. So in my case it was pure retaliation. You Alberta insult on just about every postyou make. Only when someone agrees with you do you waive the insults. Never have I ratted any of you people out no matter how insulting you become.
SilverBirch: Sorry poor fellow, you seemed to have missed the point, again! I was ratted out by one of you fellows for posting , not insults, but my position on the hard ships endured in Gaza as a results of the occupation. This were seen as disrespectful whereas the thread was focused on someone who had just died. And as you know the thread I had started, "Is the Holy Land Holy?" was hi=jacked by your pack and subsequently yanked. So in my case it was pure retaliation. You Alberta insult on just about every postyou make. Only when someone agrees with you do you waive the insults. Never have I ratted any of you people out no matter how insulting you become.
I have class. You don't.
You ratted on yoseff! You pulled a stupid stunt in one Thread,for having the other Thread pulled thanks to the Irish Guy!
SilverBirch: Sorry poor fellow, you seemed to have missed the point, again! I was ratted out by one of you fellows for posting , not insults, but my position on the hard ships endured in Gaza as a results of the occupation. This were seen as disrespectful whereas the thread was focused on someone who had just died. And as you know the thread I had started, "Is the Holy Land Holy?" was hi=jacked by your pack and subsequently yanked. So in my case it was pure retaliation. You Alberta insult on just about every postyou make. Only when someone agrees with you do you waive the insults. Never have I ratted any of you people out no matter how insulting you become.
When most christian Americans think of Israel usually these thoughts are centered around Jeruselem and the Bible. Jesus Christ. Today we are seeing a new face. One that is less deserving of respect. A war-monger nation, thats always challengeing the established protocol. Subject of international condemnation. Why is this? What is the subliminal agenda here? Just who are they trying to trick?
SilverBirch: Both you and Alberta have violated more issues of protocol than I ever did. I never rat you guys out but you did me. You'll get yours. Eventually
Never reported you! You're too much fun to be arond! But when you flooded that Eddie Fisher-Thread of mine after yours got pulled! Enough people reported you to get you temporarily banned!
When your Thread heated up,I had already signed off,for that exact reason,and was surprised when I turned to in the morning that I couldn't find it!
You have to thank you Irish Buddy with his insults for that.
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
SilverBirch: Both you and Alberta have violated more issues of protocol than I ever did. I never rat you guys out but you did me. You'll get yours. Eventually
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
SilverBirch: I have class. You don't.
SilverBirch: There you go again Goat, equating non jews to animals. Poor sod Listen and listen carefully kid. You are no better than me. You in your twisted little pea brain have no privlege, rank or "special" status. Jews like Shalit and no different than the thousands of prisoners held in Israeli jails. Your condesending "chosen" crap is your own sick little fantasy. The annexed land stolen was and is ILLEGAL UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW ok pea brain, ILLEGAL.
Slaughter, ie masacre is what took place in Gaza last year. Its what takes place on a regular basis in the OCCUPIED TERRITORIES,
Your wrong Goat. No matter how much twisting you do your still wrong.Peace to the middle east. Stop US aid to Israels war machine. There you go again Goat, equating non jews to animals. Poor sod Listen and listen carefully kid.
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So as to challenge the international community. To posit that their stance is somehow above that of all others. Queer. So when the international community says that all the "land grab' is illegal under "international law" Israel says "Pound sand"
If there was peace then you might have a point but, as you seem to be unaware, since 1948, Arabs have consistently attacked Israel hence, there is no peace to precipitate land captured in war until that occurs. With the refusal of the Palestinians to accept the stoppage of construction in return, recognize Israel as a Jewish state and, with them expecting the world to recognize them as an Islamic one it seems the Palestinians are their own worst enemy.
What comic book have you been reading? Cite your sources for this idiocy before wasting time and effort chasing a lie please.