UpYourVivaBirmingham, West Midlands, England UK387 posts
In response to: I find it ironic that so many women will say in their profiles that they hate games and want to find a man who won't play them. But at the same time there is an amazingly varied and complex number of cruelties, lies, and deceptions that you feel should be ignored or forgiven by your saying " I was just testing you ." I can't wait to hear how these " tests " don't qualify as games.
Ive heard so many times women don't play games, but there's always some kind of test and lets be honest men play them sometimes we aren't all innocent its when the games go on it becomes boring.....theres no need for them if you have trust in each other......
lilmamma71: Both genders are guilty of playing games, some think it's wrong (as I do) and then some believe it is justified because of being hurt in the past and harboring suspicions about others. Be careful, don't trust immediately and take time to get to know the other person before you form an opinion. There's good and bad everywhere in the world, the best we can hope for is to find a real, true, genuine, caring person, isn't that what we'd all like to have?
AmityDodging Daggers, Wiltshire, England UK6,217 posts
Denofearth69: Actually I was referring to a relationship that has been going on for over a year. Tests I have had to put up with include; going from talking and emailing three four times a day to no communication for three days and the explanation that I was being tested to see if I would freak out, had her take an opposing position during an arguement only to find later she agreed with me from the start and wanted to see how I reacted during an argument, things like that. Tests should have no place in a loving relationship, especially if they cause pai9n of any kind.
She sounds like a right tithead... I would not class us all the same.
Denofearth69: Actually I was referring to a relationship that has been going on for over a year. Tests I have had to put up with include; going from talking and emailing three four times a day to no communication for three days and the explanation that I was being tested to see if I would freak out, had her take an opposing position during an arguement only to find later she agreed with me from the start and wanted to see how I reacted during an argument, things like that. Tests should have no place in a loving relationship, especially if they cause pai9n of any kind.
Well she could have a concern if you are a woman beater or have anger management issues..I dont see where just not calling for a few days should be so bad..In a sense a lot of people test in some ways..Especially if they were in a marriage that had certain things involved they didnt know about before they married the person..just tell her you dont want to be tested anymore and if she wants to know something ask. if you've been involved for then it sounds like she thinks its getting serious and she's just trying to be sure if you two got married it would work and with no suprises..i personally wouldnt can a man for testing me as long as it wasnt anything too radical or hurtful.. cant blame someone for just wanting to be sure.
Swissblueeyes: Ya I think the op wants all the women on these sites to just spread their legs open and play in the bedroom so he can burp and move on to the next so called undrama queen who likes being USED..Usually men only get mad if they get caught and they always use someone elses behaviour as a excuse for their own..Unless the op stated that the lady in question was "cheating" on him then I would change my opinion..Otherwise i just see this thread as a rant on how he got "caught" in his own game and is mad about it.
No, my dear, I am so far from that. It may be rare, but there are actually men, like myself, who feel the bedroom shouldn't even be a consideration until after both hearts are fully engaged. I don't cheat, ever, because IMO if you ever loved someone there is nothing more disrespectful than cheating. If things are so bad you are considering cheating, then first you should terminate the relationship you are in. Probably why I am still good friends with all of my exs.
Denofearth69: No, my dear, I am so far from that. It may be rare, but there are actually men, like myself, who feel the bedroom shouldn't even be a consideration until after both hearts are fully engaged. I don't cheat, ever, because IMO if you ever loved someone there is nothing more disrespectful than cheating. If things are so bad you are considering cheating, then first you should terminate the relationship you are in. Probably why I am still good friends with all of my exs.
Ok then to answer your question about testing, I dont see testing as the same as a game..She probably was just trying to make sure you dont have "anger" issues or are a woman beater..I personally would not end a relationship with someone who only tested me a few times..I would however tell them if they keep doing it I would consider leaving..Ask her if shes done testing and found out everything she needs now..Also ask if shes going to keep doing this forever? that would annoy the crap out of anyone..If shes found out your one of the good guys then she needs to back off the testing now.. lol.
Swissblueeyes: he explained that she said she was testing to see if he had "anger" issues..i cant blame her for that.. the ratio of women beaters in this country is staggering..she probably wanted to make sure he isnt like that..if hes mad then maybe he has anger issues? not sure what this guys beef is really..everyone tests to certain degrees, wether they admit it or not..playing deliberate games with someones heart and head though is not the same as a "test"..so i cant agree with the op on that at all.
The man would be gone and saying good riddance if he had an ounce of self esteem. His anger is passive, but none the less anger as this thread shows.
It is why his opening statement didn't sit well with you or others, when you sensed something wrong with it. Always listen to your gut instincts.
Swissblueeyes: wheres the OP? he makes a generic comment that sounds "angry" and to me looks obviously like he was "caught"..Why dont we ask him what exactly happened? Then we can come to the conclusions..My guess is he got caught..Unless he states the situation more clearer I'm not siding with him.
Sorry had some morning chores to tend to before I could get back on.
OK so here is the deal, though I'm sure my version will be highly suspect.
I was raised by an absolutely hard core feminist ( even went to ERA rallies as a child ) she attempted to mold my brothers and I to be a new version of men, more like what women say they want in a man. As a result, I come with many of the standard male features replaced by feminist minded upgrades. This has caused an ongoing and repeating problem in my life in that many women find they fall for me very hard ( which always shocks them as I am no pretty boy ) and the next thing I know we are breaking up because, and I quote, and I have heard this exact statement too many times, " I love you so much that if you ever broke up with me it would kill me, so I'm breaking up with you first."
Sorry Swissblueeyes, but there really are some of us men who are good guys and just get a raw deal.
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