Denofearth69: Sorry had some morning chores to tend to before I could get back on.
OK so here is the deal, though I'm sure my version will be highly suspect.
I was raised by an absolutely hard core feminist ( even went to ERA rallies as a child ) she attempted to mold my brothers and I to be a new version of men, more like what women say they want in a man. As a result, I come with many of the standard male features replaced by feminist minded upgrades. This has caused an ongoing and repeating problem in my life in that many women find they fall for me very hard ( which always shocks them as I am no pretty boy ) and the next thing I know we are breaking up because, and I quote, and I have heard this exact statement too many times, " I love you so much that if you ever broke up with me it would kill me, so I'm breaking up with you first."
Sorry Swissblueeyes, but there really are some of us men who are good guys and just get a raw deal.
hmm.. well i dont know you to be able to judge this properly but if shes that stupid like your discribing then its good riddance..move on and find someone whos a better fit..it makes no sense why she tested you and did all these things, then now is breaking up with you? either she is a big flake, nut job, or there are a few missing peices in your story?
GingerBe: The man would be gone and saying good riddance if he had an ounce of self esteem. His anger is passive, but none the less anger as this thread shows.
It is why his opening statement didn't sit well with you or others, when you sensed something wrong with it. Always listen to your gut instincts.
Nope sorry dude, I am very comfortable in my own skin, and don't need anyone to complete me, not why I am here.
Self esteem issues don't come into play when you're having to live down the bad treatment many women have suffered at the hands of other men. Let's face the reality that especially women in my age group can't help but carry some baggage from their past. As such there has to be a bit more patience dealing with women and their issues. Only through understanding their issues can we deal with and overcome them.
Oh, and I have no anger issues. I have in fact been the battered individual in a domestic violence case, so I know that side of the issue as well.
I'm big, ruggedly built, and have an extreme tolerance for pain. So I was able to contain myself even after having a drying rack smashed into my face with enough force to break my cheek bone. Kept my cool and called the police. The woman in question was a violent closet drunk who kept that side of her personality hidden until we had moved in together.
ali110: My sweet ladies ,why do u like the games ?
we "dont" like games..testing someone isnt really the same as a game..games are when your messing with someones head to hurt them or lying to use them for something..usually a person tests someone because they want to make sure the potential partner isnt lying about themself or their motives
Denofearth69: Nope sorry dude, I am very comfortable in my own skin, and don't need anyone to complete me, not why I am here.
Self esteem issues don't come into play when you're having to live down the bad treatment many women have suffered at the hands of other men. Let's face the reality that especially women in my age group can't help but carry some baggage from their past. As such there has to be a bit more patience dealing with women and their issues. Only through understanding their issues can we deal with and overcome them.
You are displaying typical passive agressive replies here, and not taking responisbility for any contribution to your part in this, just blaming it all on the women.
Swissblueeyes: we "dont" like games..testing someone isnt really the same as a game..games are when your messing with someones head to hurt them or lying to use them for something..usually a person tests someone because they want to make sure the potential partner isnt lying about themself or their motives
Denofearth69: Oh, and I have no anger issues. I have in fact been the battered individual in a domestic violence case, so I know that side of the issue as well.
I'm big, ruggedly built, and have an extreme tolerance for pain. So I was able to contain myself even after having a drying rack smashed into my face with enough force to break my cheek bone. Kept my cool and called the police. The woman in question was a violent closet drunk who kept that side of her personality hidden until we had moved in together.
well this information would have been more helpfull if you explained all this in your fist post.. your first post sounded "angry"..so in type most people would assume either sympathy for you or skepticism..sorry to hear you've had some bad experiences..we have had at least one in our lives and its best to move on and be more cautious about who you get emotionally involved with next. huggs
AmityDodging Daggers, Wiltshire, England UK6,217 posts
Not really sure why the OP is being analysed for his posts. He has explained his meaning..and although im sure it could have been worded better it is a perfectly good query.
GingerBe: You are displaying typical passive agressive replies here, and not taking responisbility for any contribution to your part in this, just blaming it all on the women.
ya i have to agree his first post did sound very angry..it had me wondering what was the whole story.. hes claiming now its all the other persons fault.. all we can go by is what hes saying..i know my ex was abusive and he would never admit to it.
Swissblueeyes: ya i have to agree his first post did sound very angry..it had me wondering what was the whole story.. hes claiming now its all the other persons fault.. all we can go by is what hes saying..i know my ex was abusive and he would never admit to it.
Mine was passive aggresive too, and very abusive, mostly verbally, where it was never his fault. I thought it was me, until I started studying psychology and found out differently. I left him then.
GingerBe: Mine was passive aggresive too, and very abusive, mostly verbally, where it was never his fault. I thought it was me, until I started studying psychology and found out differently. I left him then.
ya most women beaters never admit to anyone they are to blame..In public they always appear to be so sweet and charming but at home turn into the evil other personality they have..I'm not saying the op is but his first post did come across as very angry and defensive.
Denofearth69: Ginger, there is a subtle but distinct difference between strong, capable, and independent, and domineering, never said my mom was domineering.
I understand all of what you are saying, but flip the coin and look at the other side. I was raised in a very liberal environment, by loving parents, no divorces, violence, or other garbage. But, yes, my mom is so opposed to oppressive men that she raised her boys to NOT be like that.
Where I think I throw women off is that I don't have a lot of those typical male issues. I rarely go out with the guys, and when I do I return at the time I said I would. I can take or leave sports, just not a defining part of my life so who cares. I'd rather tell an ugly truth, get it out in the open and deal with it than ever tell a pretty lie. I show genuine interest in what's going on in my lady's life, and ( gasp ) I actually discuss her interests. And too many others to count, but basically I think women, for the most part, just can't believe I am real, and yeah that makes them nervous. Kind of the reverse of women who always go for the bad guy.
Oh BS..Im so sick of hearing how us women go for bad guys..I hate bad guys and this is the main reason I agree with women doing "tests" checking things out before giving their heart..If you were really a good guy you wouldnt be afraid of a silly little test..
Also, I should mention that I wear my heart on my sleeve, no walls, don't believe they are a healthy way to view or participate in the world. I am not angry, and sorry if I came off that way...I am hurt...again subtle differences.
AmityDodging Daggers, Wiltshire, England UK6,217 posts
Denofearth69: Ginger, there is a subtle but distinct difference between strong, capable, and independent, and domineering, never said my mom was domineering.
I understand all of what you are saying, but flip the coin and look at the other side. I was raised in a very liberal environment, by loving parents, no divorces, violence, or other garbage. But, yes, my mom is so opposed to oppressive men that she raised her boys to NOT be like that.
Where I think I throw women off is that I don't have a lot of those typical male issues. I rarely go out with the guys, and when I do I return at the time I said I would. I can take or leave sports, just not a defining part of my life so who cares. I'd rather tell an ugly truth, get it out in the open and deal with it than ever tell a pretty lie. I show genuine interest in what's going on in my lady's life, and ( gasp ) I actually discuss her interests. And too many others to count, but basically I think women, for the most part, just can't believe I am real, and yeah that makes them nervous. Kind of the reverse of women who always go for the bad guy.
Hey.. Bless ya. I really dont think you should have to explain yourself...It seems to be the in thing for people to self analyse people from their posts around here at the moment. I think you could have worded the OP differently, but it was a normal question. i dont see why you should feel you need to defend your character here.
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OK so here is the deal, though I'm sure my version will be highly suspect.
I was raised by an absolutely hard core feminist ( even went to ERA rallies as a child ) she attempted to mold my brothers and I to be a new version of men, more like what women say they want in a man. As a result, I come with many of the standard male features replaced by feminist minded upgrades. This has caused an ongoing and repeating problem in my life in that many women find they fall for me very hard ( which always shocks them as I am no pretty boy ) and the next thing I know we are breaking up because, and I quote, and I have heard this exact statement too many times, " I love you so much that if you ever broke up with me it would kill me, so I'm breaking up with you first."
Sorry Swissblueeyes, but there really are some of us men who are good guys and just get a raw deal.