Christmas, is nearly upon us again (25)
tarnsnz: and what better way to celebrate then have ya son come home and tell ya the lovely chrissie presents they got - NOT
Boss waits for them to finish building the house and rings them on there travels home to notifiy them
There is no more work
and The Company has gone into receivership today
& they probably won't get paid their wages or any of their holiday pay owingMerry Bloody Xmas
His foreman has a young baby and family to support and there are others with families too, so I really feel sorry for them as that really suks
So now I have a jobless apprentice that I will have to support as there will no be little chance of getting another job so close to xmas and thanks to a useless boss, he probably won't get all the money owing to him
If it don't rain, it pours but I will just fill up me wine glass
oh thats sucks big time tarnsnzBoss waits for them to finish building the house and rings them on there travels home to notifiy them
There is no more work
and The Company has gone into receivership today
& they probably won't get paid their wages or any of their holiday pay owingMerry Bloody Xmas
His foreman has a young baby and family to support and there are others with families too, so I really feel sorry for them as that really suks
So now I have a jobless apprentice that I will have to support as there will no be little chance of getting another job so close to xmas and thanks to a useless boss, he probably won't get all the money owing to him
If it don't rain, it pours but I will just fill up me wine glass
was this the first theyd heard of it today,if so the company are arseholes thats just devious
hope fully ur son will be taken on by another company and it wont effect his apprentice ship too much,tell him keep his chin up something will come along and until then heres another glass of wine 
ohnuts1: oh thats sucks big time tarnsnz was this the first theyd heard of it today,if so the company are arseholes thats just devious hope fully ur son will be taken on by another company and it wont effect his apprentice ship too much,tell him keep his chin up something will come along and until then heres another glass of wine
Hey Tarnz,I'm a carpenter and this happened to me twice while I was doing my apprenticeship,the first time I just suffered,the second time we went to the job site and took as much gear as we could carry.
I dont know what the laws are in NZ but in Aus we have a specific building law that means builders are required to put aside funds that will cover tradesman and wages. (cause of the bad old days and the collapse of a number of builders mid project)
Now if they havent done that its a simple matter of reporting them to our building authority. Perhaps there is an NZ building authority where you can start your search for the missing $$. If all else fails the authority can get a lien against the outstanding funds and garnishee them when the builder gets paid..
Oh and here in Aus its a small claims matter where you can take them to court yourself.... look into that side too. You can sue for wages via Small Claims
Its totally out of line... and it sucks big time ...
Now if they havent done that its a simple matter of reporting them to our building authority. Perhaps there is an NZ building authority where you can start your search for the missing $$. If all else fails the authority can get a lien against the outstanding funds and garnishee them when the builder gets paid..
Oh and here in Aus its a small claims matter where you can take them to court yourself.... look into that side too. You can sue for wages via Small Claims
Its totally out of line... and it sucks big time ...
Shell225: I dont know what the laws are in NZ but in Aus we have a specific building law that means builders are required to put aside funds that will cover tradesman and wages. (cause of the bad old days and the collapse of a number of builders mid project)
Now if they havent done that its a simple matter of reporting them to our building authority. Perhaps there is an NZ building authority where you can start your search for the missing $$. If all else fails the authority can get a lien against the outstanding funds and garnishee them when the builder gets paid..
Oh and here in Aus its a small claims matter where you can take them to court yourself.... look into that side too. You can sue for wages via Small Claims
Its totally out of line... and it sucks big time ...
Now if they havent done that its a simple matter of reporting them to our building authority. Perhaps there is an NZ building authority where you can start your search for the missing $$. If all else fails the authority can get a lien against the outstanding funds and garnishee them when the builder gets paid..
Oh and here in Aus its a small claims matter where you can take them to court yourself.... look into that side too. You can sue for wages via Small Claims
Its totally out of line... and it sucks big time ...
I understand redundancies here but I really don't know anything about employees wages/holidays payments when company goes into liquidation and boss declares backruptancy
but I will look into and see what I can find or if anyone reading this in NZ knows the laws regarding this, if could help out.
Well, maybe something good out of it, he was imming and arring about following in his brothers footsteps and has been going through the process and is now just waiting for the outcome
so might help him make his final decision
so might help him make his final decision
Oh that makes your blood boil tarnsnz?
It's when something like this happens that you have to believe in karma-you hope it will come back and bit his boss on the bum Big Time.
It's when something like this happens that you have to believe in karma-you hope it will come back and bit his boss on the bum Big Time.
tarnsnz: I understand redundancies here but I really don't know anything about employees wages/holidays payments when company goes into liquidation and boss declares backruptancy
but I will look into and see what I can find or if anyone reading this in NZ knows the laws regarding this, if could help out.
but I will look into and see what I can find or if anyone reading this in NZ knows the laws regarding this, if could help out.
Hi tarnsnz,
It sure does suck big time but your son will be fine soon enough as he is a diligent worker with skills. Not sure what your laws are like, but should be similar to Oz, where if you are retrenched or fired through no fault of your own, you are eligible for immediate payment through social security benefits, instead of the usual waiting period. That should help until he (soon) finds another employer worthy of his hard work.
Here, have another, but don't get too sozzled...
venere08: Hi tarnsnz,
It sure does suck big time but your son will be fine soon enough as he is a diligent worker with skills. Not sure what your laws are like, but should be similar to Oz, where if you are retrenched or fired through no fault of your own, you are eligible for immediate payment through social security benefits, instead of the usual waiting period. That should help until he (soon) finds another employer worthy of his hard work.
Here, have another, but don't get too sozzled...
It sure does suck big time but your son will be fine soon enough as he is a diligent worker with skills. Not sure what your laws are like, but should be similar to Oz, where if you are retrenched or fired through no fault of your own, you are eligible for immediate payment through social security benefits, instead of the usual waiting period. That should help until he (soon) finds another employer worthy of his hard work.
Here, have another, but don't get too sozzled...
Just get sozzled
venere08: Hi tarnsnz,
It sure does suck big time but your son will be fine soon enough as he is a diligent worker with skills. Not sure what your laws are like, but should be similar to Oz, where if you are retrenched or fired through no fault of your own, you are eligible for immediate payment through social security benefits, instead of the usual waiting period. That should help until he (soon) finds another employer worthy of his hard work.
Here, have another, but don't get too sozzled...
It sure does suck big time but your son will be fine soon enough as he is a diligent worker with skills. Not sure what your laws are like, but should be similar to Oz, where if you are retrenched or fired through no fault of your own, you are eligible for immediate payment through social security benefits, instead of the usual waiting period. That should help until he (soon) finds another employer worthy of his hard work.
Here, have another, but don't get too sozzled...
Yes, Venere I am sure he can get a emergency benefit but there's always that word (pride)
about going into those horrible places and funny enought, he was saying last night "can't break family tradition" and go in there which I fully understand as just like his mum He said to me, "you will take care of me" for a little while won't you", and damn well knowing I will
Just means now, I can get him to do more jobs around here and he will be spending alot time on golf course which is all good so we don't drive each other crazy
What mums are for, we get through this I had better be well looked after in my retirement years, no bloody rest home for me
At least you guys have decent weather. It's bloody freezing here 
That really bites Tarsnz !! well at least youll be together and he has yr support , Man it neva ceases to amaze me how incesitive some people can be especially around Christmas ,
Merry Christmas Tarsnz & family xxx
Merry Christmas Tarsnz & family xxx
tarnsnz: Yes, Venere I am sure he can get a emergency benefit but there's always that word (pride) about going into those horrible places and funny enought, he was saying last night "can't break family tradition" and go in there which I fully understand as just like his mum
He said to me, "you will take care of me" for a little while won't you", and damn well knowing I will
Just means now, I can get him to do more jobs around here and he will be spending alot time on golf course which is all good so we don't drive each other crazy
What mums are for, we get through this I had better be well looked after in my retirement years, no bloody rest home for me
He said to me, "you will take care of me" for a little while won't you", and damn well knowing I will
Just means now, I can get him to do more jobs around here and he will be spending alot time on golf course which is all good so we don't drive each other crazy
What mums are for, we get through this I had better be well looked after in my retirement years, no bloody rest home for me
tarnsnz: Yes, Venere I am sure he can get a emergency benefit but there's always that word (pride) about going into those horrible places and funny enought, he was saying last night "can't break family tradition" and go in there which I fully understand as just like his mum
He said to me, "you will take care of me" for a little while won't you", and damn well knowing I will
Just means now, I can get him to do more jobs around here and he will be spending alot time on golf course which is all good so we don't drive each other crazy
What mums are for, we get through this I had better be well looked after in my retirement years, no bloody rest home for me
He said to me, "you will take care of me" for a little while won't you", and damn well knowing I will
Just means now, I can get him to do more jobs around here and he will be spending alot time on golf course which is all good so we don't drive each other crazy
What mums are for, we get through this I had better be well looked after in my retirement years, no bloody rest home for me
I know what you mean, Tarnsnz. While the system is there for genuine need, if it's anything like Oz, most people hate anything to do with social security.
When my son transitioned from school to the workforce, we did exactly the same. I fully agreed that he have nothing to do with 'those idiots', and I supported him financially until he got on his feet. To this day, however, even though he's worked for years, I have never asked him to pay for food and lodging. He's been able to buy a property, and moves into it next month. I'm hoping he doesn't shove me into a home either!
Thanks all for your comments and support, I will be making a few phone call this week to see what I can find out.
can here thinking it was a bit of a wish list for the xmas stocking 
not something to wish for
but i hope every thing turns out for your family and the other that are affected but these selfish pricks
not something to wish for
but i hope every thing turns out for your family and the other that are affected but these selfish pricks
Tarsnz
I have dug some information that may help you.
I could be wrong but it ios not allowd for some one to sack an apprentice. If merory serves me well (I could be wrong) thr employer has to find a new employer for him. And from what I gleemed from the above site his boss has to have set aside his wages in a fund just incase.
Good luck and I do hop it all goes well.
I have dug some information that may help you.
I could be wrong but it ios not allowd for some one to sack an apprentice. If merory serves me well (I could be wrong) thr employer has to find a new employer for him. And from what I gleemed from the above site his boss has to have set aside his wages in a fund just incase.
Good luck and I do hop it all goes well.
Oldbussy: Tarsnz
I have dug some information that may help you.
I could be wrong but it ios not allowd for some one to sack an apprentice. If merory serves me well (I could be wrong) thr employer has to find a new employer for him. And from what I gleemed from the above site his boss has to have set aside his wages in a fund just incase.
Good luck and I do hop it all goes well.
I have dug some information that may help you.
I could be wrong but it ios not allowd for some one to sack an apprentice. If merory serves me well (I could be wrong) thr employer has to find a new employer for him. And from what I gleemed from the above site his boss has to have set aside his wages in a fund just incase.
Good luck and I do hop it all goes well.
Thanks for that link Oldbussy
ps. he wasn't sacked, all the workers including foreman lost their jobs, and company is now in liquidation - there is still a chance he and other workers may get monies owing to them through the liquidation process so there is still a little hope there.
As for the help here, he did ring and enquire regarding the redundancy packages they brought into nz a while ago and what a lot of rubbish - don't help him barely at all unless he had kids.
Isnt that typical of system
was told he could go on dole - what a joke, but he's not worried, he would rather find himself another job and not stress other it as whats done , has been done
tarnsnz: Ok, updat, good news & bad
Bad news, his boss is more of a arsehole that what I orginally thought
Son actually took out insurance when he had his car loan and sorted it all out and just needed a signiture from his boss & he was covered. So rings him and he didn't want to know about it, not his problem How can anyone be horrible after what he did to them all.
Son could of just left it in his letterbox to sign and pick it up - no big deal but didnt want to know about it. So son took the paperwork into receivers for them to try & get Good news
Through word of mouth, he got a phone call last Friday for a building job interview this morning
and started work today
Its for 2 weeks, and if all goes well, they will offer him a permanent position so awesome
thats great news tarnsnzBad news, his boss is more of a arsehole that what I orginally thought
Son actually took out insurance when he had his car loan and sorted it all out and just needed a signiture from his boss & he was covered. So rings him and he didn't want to know about it, not his problem How can anyone be horrible after what he did to them all.
Son could of just left it in his letterbox to sign and pick it up - no big deal but didnt want to know about it. So son took the paperwork into receivers for them to try & get Good news
Through word of mouth, he got a phone call last Friday for a building job interview this morning
and started work today
Its for 2 weeks, and if all goes well, they will offer him a permanent position so awesome
Hey Tarnz,soon enough your son will have more work than he will be able to cope with.Carpentry is a great trade I have never been out of work unless I have wanted to be.
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Boss waits for them to finish building the house and rings them on there travels home to notifiy them
There is no more work
and The Company has gone into receivership today
& they probably won't get paid their wages or any of their holiday pay owing
Merry Bloody Xmas
His foreman has a young baby and family to support and there are others with families too, so I really feel sorry for them as that really suks
So now I have a jobless apprentice that I will have to support as there will no be little chance of getting another job so close to xmas and thanks to a useless boss, he probably won't get all the money owing to him
If it don't rain, it pours but I will just fill up me wine glass