being nice does not work ( Archived) (203)

Dec 19, 2010 10:04 PM CST being nice does not work
lovelyliza
lovelylizalovelylizabethlehem, Pennsylvania USA12 Threads 2 Polls 488 Posts
cmulder: i am 37 and worked in a callcenter for 4 years so i had interction with people.
That is why i stay inside.
Woman want men wo are secure about themselfs and abusive men are.
They are "manly" dominant ect.
If what you say is true why do they say with them so long?

and going to a gym? and be made fun off there too.
i can eat as mutch as i like but it just goes straight trough and i do not gain any weight

Also i never EVER in my whole life had a woman start a converstation with me "just because"



Some women have good advice follow them...and my advice to you is almost the same...build up your self-esteem..do some volunteering just to build up your confidence, and the same time you can help the others...go to church..ppl in church are friendly...maybe it's your personality...but if you want to meet someone either to find a mate, or just a friend you have to initiate in conversing...maybe your nice guy, but most ppl don't know you if you don't tell them...
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Dec 19, 2010 10:06 PM CST being nice does not work
langleygirl
langleygirllangleygirlWestlock, Alberta Canada70 Threads 8,202 Posts
jac379: Leave a mark? That's exactly what LG and I are trying to do, you wombat!

I'm wearing size 6 Doc Marten's with extra tread and toe caps...what have you got LG? Cos we might have to go down the army surplus for some squaddy, if this keeps up much longer
I'm wearing black heels! Seduction is a faster way to get their focus and attention. cats meow
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Dec 19, 2010 10:13 PM CST being nice does not work
scoutmaster
scoutmasterscoutmasterGranite falls, Washington USA29 Threads 6 Polls 1,100 Posts
langleygirl: I'm wearing black heels! Seduction is a faster way to get their focus and attention.


Now Im thinking I really do need to get my pasport and drive up to see youkiss
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Dec 19, 2010 10:14 PM CST being nice does not work
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
langleygirl: I'm wearing black heels! Seduction is a faster way to get their focus and attention.


Go for it, hun.

They'll leave a mark, alright. rolling on the floor laughing
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Dec 19, 2010 10:41 PM CST being nice does not work
Wow. So wise for one so young. It is too bad we are not closer in age. I once had a deep thinker like you and we were intellectually matched. I am not looking right now but I hope one day G-d again grants me another deep thinking LifeMate.
ambient_sounds: Okay, for starters, you cannot even begin to realize the potential you possess, and you never will as long as you continue to limit yourself by letting your loneliness control you. You are your own bully, your own despair has you in a choke hold, and you are letting it take you over.

First off, decide to change. It's obvious women aren't falling for you "as you are". Despite what some people say, and no matter what they want to believe, if they do not push themselves to become better, no one will ever accept them for "who they are". It's a silly misconception that people use who do not want to put forth the effort to better themselves, and make themselves more desirable. I know I am going to catch flack about this from people that want to stick to their guns on the "just be yourself and everything will work out in time" note, but it doesn't matter, I have a point and I am driving it home, walk with me, this is your crash course to a better future.

Secondly, from the dawn of time, the female species in nearly every instance is won, drawn to, or chosen by either the strongest, or most able male. So this being said, if they sense you are weak, even if they aren't actively thinking it, they are going to pass you over no matter how cute they think you are, or how great your personality is, etc. Women need strength in a man, strength of understanding, strength of will, strength of heart, and strength to not only stand on your own but also strength to hold her above all else. Nice guys finish last, because nice guys are usually weak in some form or another. No you do not have to be a bodybuilding meat-head, or some Tapout gear wearing MMA wannabe- muscles do not make you a man. But break yourself down, and reinvent yourself. Strength is defined as: the ability to withstand or exert great force, stress, or pressure. And furthermore, to survive, to survive everything. Self reliance and emotional fortification are at the core of great strength. Knowledge is power, but understanding is strength. If you can understand that strength is not a quality that will make your life easier, but harder, and if you can accept this, and still strive for it while life laughs at you through its yellow twisted teeth, you will carve out a path that would make Thor of Norse mythology himself jealous. Life will rest at your feet like a dog and you will be a man like no other.

Thirdly, being alone is NOT a bad thing. You can accomplish so much more when you are alone than you can when you have others around you. You can focus better, distractions are limited, other people's opinions and misunderstanding will not matter because they aren't around. Use that time to transform yourself into someone you can be proud of, someone that doesn't have to just hope that someday, someone will accept you for whom you are. Someone that will shatter the mold of the ordinary man and captivate women in ways they only read about in sensual novels.
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Dec 19, 2010 10:49 PM CST being nice does not work
langleygirl
langleygirllangleygirlWestlock, Alberta Canada70 Threads 8,202 Posts
scoutmaster: Now Im thinking I really do need to get my pasport and drive up to see you
maybe! wink
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Dec 19, 2010 10:50 PM CST being nice does not work
langleygirl
langleygirllangleygirlWestlock, Alberta Canada70 Threads 8,202 Posts
jac379: Go for it, hun.

They'll leave a mark, alright.
I can be dominate at times! laugh
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Dec 19, 2010 10:55 PM CST being nice does not work
ReaderOfSouls
ReaderOfSoulsReaderOfSoulsunknown, Texas USA193 Posts
cmulder: Dispite what most woman write in there profile i found out being nice is useless.
Since i am tall and skinney i have been bullied not just during my childhood but its a still ongoing problem for me.
Examples include "passive agression" with it comes to dealing with.
Spending most if my time (still) alone i do not gain any experience that inproves my self esteem.
Btw with alone i do not mean single but TOTALY ALONE.
most weekends i come home from work and only get out of the door again on monday without any interactions with humans in person in between.

Needless to say self esteem is something i know from a book.

So even if i get a lady to reply to me it does only last a few messages and then it ends since they are not atracted to me,

So being nice does not work and i found woman prefer abusve men who hurt them.

I am just not one of them.


OP,

I've been happily married for eighteen years. I'd suffered a stroke that leaves me walking with a cane, have slight scoliosis of the spine and am deaf in my right ear. Despite these physical limitations, I still manage to live a very full life and met a man who loves me with all of his heart and soul.

He loves me despite those limitations.Heck, he's always been a bit overweight, but it doesn't matter to me. He's not much to look at by a lot of physical handsomeness standards. However what he has is self-confidence, intelligence, can still make me laugh after eighteen years and loves me unconditionally. I own and operate a small horse and cattle ranch, became an ordained non-denominational minister nearly three years ago and have a job in town as an Investigative Detective. It's those different and varying hats I wear for work that brings me into contact with all sorts of people, many of them becoming wonderful friends. :)

Having a lurcher/greyhound is a wonderful way to get out, meet people whose eyes are caught by the dog, and making friends though a pet. :) I have a greyhound mix that has brought me into contact with all sorts of people at the local Fall Festivals.

A big thing is self-esteem and confidence. Look in the mirror and give yourself a huge smile and say, "I'm going to meet someone today". Then everyone you meet, give them a big smile. You'll likely get one in return. A genuine smile can lead to friendship, leading to more. :)
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Dec 19, 2010 11:03 PM CST being nice does not work
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
langleygirl: I can be dominate at times!


Go on. pointing

Back to Jester's thread with you. professor
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Dec 19, 2010 11:05 PM CST being nice does not work
ReaderOfSouls: OP,

I've been happily married for eighteen years. I'd suffered a stroke that leaves me walking with a cane, have slight scoliosis of the spine and am deaf in my right ear. Despite these physical limitations, I still manage to live a very full life and met a man who loves me with all of his heart and soul.

He loves me despite those limitations.Heck, he's always been a bit overweight, but it doesn't matter to me. He's not much to look at by a lot of physical handsomeness standards. However what he has is self-confidence, intelligence, can still make me laugh after eighteen years and loves me unconditionally. I own and operate a small horse and cattle ranch, became an ordained non-denominational minister nearly three years ago and have a job in town as an Investigative Detective. It's those different and varying hats I wear for work that brings me into contact with all sorts of people, many of them becoming wonderful friends. :)

Having a lurcher/greyhound is a wonderful way to get out, meet people whose eyes are caught by the dog, and making friends though a pet. :) I have a greyhound mix that has brought me into contact with all sorts of people at the local Fall Festivals.

A big thing is self-esteem and confidence. Look in the mirror and give yourself a huge smile and say, "I'm going to meet someone today". Then everyone you meet, give them a big smile. You'll likely get one in return. A genuine smile can lead to friendship, leading to more. :)
Well said.hug
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Dec 19, 2010 11:06 PM CST being nice does not work
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
ReaderOfSouls: Having a lurcher/greyhound is a wonderful way to get out, meet people whose eyes are caught by the dog, and making friends though a pet. :) I have a greyhound mix that has brought me into contact with all sorts of people at the local Fall Festivals.


wave fellow lurcher lover!
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Dec 19, 2010 11:10 PM CST being nice does not work
langleygirl
langleygirllangleygirlWestlock, Alberta Canada70 Threads 8,202 Posts
jac379: Go on.

Back to Jester's thread with you.
Lol .. I already admitted I could be naughty! I don't wanna sit on his knee. moping
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Dec 19, 2010 11:14 PM CST being nice does not work
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
langleygirl: Lol .. I already admitted I could be naughty! I don't wanna sit on his knee.


Nah, me neither.

He got my name wrong.

I've got standards, y'know. snooty
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Dec 19, 2010 11:17 PM CST being nice does not work
Davros
DavrosDavrosWintersville, Ohio USA1 Threads 12 Posts
i totally agree, do not be nice...became an a**hole and smack her around a little, she will love you forever!!
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Dec 19, 2010 11:21 PM CST being nice does not work
ReaderOfSouls
ReaderOfSoulsReaderOfSoulsunknown, Texas USA193 Posts
jac379: fellow lurcher lover!


wave applause
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Dec 19, 2010 11:21 PM CST being nice does not work
Im growing very tired of hearing this woman dont like nice guys, Paaaaaalllllleeeeeeezzzzeeee.!!!!!I could say more but that would be against my be nice on CS nature rolling on the floor laughing
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Dec 19, 2010 11:26 PM CST being nice does not work
Davros: i totally agree, do not be nice...became an a**hole and smack her around a little, she will love you forever!!
Erm, joking I hope. Thought more highly of you than that.uh oh
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Dec 20, 2010 12:26 AM CST being nice does not work
matt1wt
matt1wtmatt1wtAlbury, New South Wales Australia13 Threads 65 Posts
because woman as animals want the strongest male being nice and week will not get the girl but because the logic part of the brain wants a nice guy i think nice and strong will get the girls
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Dec 20, 2010 12:38 AM CST being nice does not work
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
Make that the last century and a half... time flies super
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Dec 20, 2010 5:46 AM CST being nice does not work
mmichaelm
mmichaelmmmichaelmPort Charlotte, Florida USA6 Threads 1 Polls 240 Posts
Here is an interesting article on the subject of the "Nice Guy Syndrome"



I agree with the key point being made to men - the need for balance. While women say they want a "nice guy" who is kind and considerate, etc..and that is true. At the same time, they don't want or need another girlfriend in a male body!

In the end, women want a man to be man. One who knows when to act like a gentleman...and also when to not.
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