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GalwayGuy35: Most of the local people are delighted with the pipeline. Its just a few nutjobs and hippies with nothing else to do who are making a fool of themselves.
Yeah and Maura Harrington is the biggest nutjob of them all, even her own people are scared of her!
snowlynx: The only alternative is nuclear, and the same people who want to stop Shell would be against that as well! Ireland and especially Mayo need Shell and only a few hundred fanatics are in the way and costing a fortune in the policing they need.
One of those men who is against it (can't remember his name well his father campaigned against the coming of electricity to the Erris area back in the 40's, says it all doesn't it?
One of those men who is against it (can't remember his name well his father campaigned against the coming of electricity to the Erris area back in the 40's, says it all doesn't it?
Oh no! You'll have the Green Windmill Club harping on about surrounding the island of Ireland with thousands of wind turbines.
Godsgift: Oh no! You'll have the Green Windmill Club harping on about surrounding the island of Ireland with thousands of wind turbines.
Thanks for the warning, wouldn't want to mess with the green windmill club!snowlynx: Yeah and Maura Harrington is the biggest nutjob of them all, even her own people are scared of her!
Shes a disgrace.
Long live nucear power, a number of countries are going baxck to nuclear power now ie the UK,Finland, France and Sweden.
Ken35: Long live nucear power, a number of countries are going baxck to nuclear power now ie the UK,Finland, France and Sweden.
Irish electricity grid is too small in size for nuclear power. Anyway we can't build roads right in Ireland... how would we build a nuclear power plant ? Do you want to kill us all ?
Ken35: Long live nucear power, a number of countries are going baxck to nuclear power now ie the UK,Finland, France and Sweden.
We certainly seem to be a lot more confident with nuclear power than we once were....I'm talking Europe as a whole here but I don'y know what we would do with the waste!
Size wise, there's no reason we couldn't have a nuclear power plant here. We could even sell power to Europe and the UK using a D.C. linkilne.
Now I'm out of the industry for some time, but people who are admittedly less qualified than me, tell me that renewables like wind, wave and solar power would do the job!
Instinctively for me, the mathematics of that seems all wrong for our power generation needs, but I'm open to persuasion!
Godsgift: We certainly seem to be a lot more confident with nuclear power than we once were....I'm talking Europe as a whole here but I don'y know what we would do with the waste!
Size wise, there's no reason we couldn't have a nuclear power plant here. We could even sell power to Europe and the UK using a D.C. linkilne.
Now I'm out of the industry for some time, but people who are admittedly less qualified than me, tell me that renewables like wind, wave and solar power would do the job!
Instinctively for me, the mathematics of that seems all wrong for our power generation needs, but I'm open to persuasion!
Size wise, there's no reason we couldn't have a nuclear power plant here. We could even sell power to Europe and the UK using a D.C. linkilne.
Now I'm out of the industry for some time, but people who are admittedly less qualified than me, tell me that renewables like wind, wave and solar power would do the job!
Instinctively for me, the mathematics of that seems all wrong for our power generation needs, but I'm open to persuasion!
The smallest commercial nuclear power plant may just about fit on the Irish grid but the proble is what do you do if it goes down and during mantainence times ?
Exporting nulear generated electrity in Ireland would make no ecomom ic sense as we don't have nuclear fuel resources in Ireland.
Some of the renewables like small wind turbine and Solar PV don't make sense yet. I think the large wind turbines may make sense with all the wind we have in Ireland that other countries don't have
billyj1: The smallest commercial nuclear power plant may just about fit on the Irish grid but the proble is what do you do if it goes down and during mantainence times ?
Exporting nulear generated electrity in Ireland would make no ecomom ic sense as we don't have nuclear fuel resources in Ireland.
Some of the renewables like small wind turbine and Solar PV don't make sense yet. I think the large wind turbines may make sense with all the wind we have in Ireland that other countries don't have
Exporting nulear generated electrity in Ireland would make no ecomom ic sense as we don't have nuclear fuel resources in Ireland.
Some of the renewables like small wind turbine and Solar PV don't make sense yet. I think the large wind turbines may make sense with all the wind we have in Ireland that other countries don't have
Like I said, I'm away from that side of things a long time and AC control systems are way ahead of where they were in the good old days of what we called VAR compensation!
Certainly to run the grid, we would need a fixed source just for voltage regulation, but once the 3 phase is set up, you can bolt on whatever you want!
You can export power due to time differences around Europe. Poland's rush hour is 3 hours ahead of ours and so on. Most of the day we don't need all the power we have. The peak times are the problem! And that problem is the same all over Europe!
And in these days of the Good Friday Agreement, we could share a grid with the North!
May all be pie in the sky. Just throwing out ideas!
Godsgift: Like I said, I'm away from that side of things a long time and AC control systems are way ahead of where they were in the good old days of what we called VAR compensation!
Certainly to run the grid, we would need a fixed source just for voltage regulation, but once the 3 phase is set up, you can bolt on whatever you want!
You can export power due to time differences around Europe. Poland's rush hour is 3 hours ahead of ours and so on. Most of the day we don't need all the power we have. The peak times are the problem! And that problem is the same all over Europe!
And in these days of the Good Friday Agreement, we could share a grid with the North!May all be pie in the sky. Just throwing out ideas!
Certainly to run the grid, we would need a fixed source just for voltage regulation, but once the 3 phase is set up, you can bolt on whatever you want!
You can export power due to time differences around Europe. Poland's rush hour is 3 hours ahead of ours and so on. Most of the day we don't need all the power we have. The peak times are the problem! And that problem is the same all over Europe!
And in these days of the Good Friday Agreement, we could share a grid with the North!May all be pie in the sky. Just throwing out ideas!
Yeah I know what you mean.... to be honest I think the world will use a mix of all the types of power generation. I also think it will also involve demand management to reduce the peak demands.
billyj1: Irish electricity grid is too small in size for nuclear power. Anyway we can't build roads right in Ireland... how would we build a nuclear power plant ? Do you want to kill us all ?
billyj1: Irish electricity grid is too small in size for nuclear power. Anyway we can't build roads right in Ireland... how would we build a nuclear power plant ? Do you want to kill us all ?
The ESB run power stations world wide and offer consultancy services so it's quite likely that they'd have the knowledge to run nuclear power plants. There are plenty of reactors in quite backward and undeveloped countries such as Iran, Thailand and the former soviet block and there are reactors that are small enough for a smaller market such as Ireland.
Losty: The ESB run power stations world wide and offer consultancy services so it's quite likely that they'd have the knowledge to run nuclear power plants. There are plenty of reactors in quite backward and undeveloped countries such as Iran, Thailand and the former soviet block and there are reactors that are small enough for a smaller market such as Ireland.
Unfortunately our electricity would not get cheaper as we have no uranium sources so we would still be importing the raw fuel. This will only go up in price as more countries go nuclear. I think we should use our own natural resources as best we can such a wind and biomass.
billyj1: Unfortunately our electricity would not get cheaper as we have no uranium sources so we would still be importing the raw fuel. This will only go up in price as more countries go nuclear. I think we should use our own natural resources as best we can such a wind and biomass.
sadly yes this is true we need to tap into this big time as ireland does lack raw materials compared to most countries but it would be a huge benefit to ireland to invest in renewable energy
scarwolve: sadly yes this is true we need to tap into this big time as ireland does lack raw materials compared to most countries
but it would be a huge benefit to ireland to invest in renewable energy
but it would be a huge benefit to ireland to invest in renewable energy
Yes if renewable was done right then it would be of huge benefit to Ireland and create jobs and give us control of our energy prices and security. It's just when big greedy guys get involved purely for quick profit then things can go pear shaped like what happened with the whole property thing. It just has to be controlled and done with the benefit of all in mind.
billyj1: Unfortunately our electricity would not get cheaper as we have no uranium sources so we would still be importing the raw fuel. This will only go up in price as more countries go nuclear. I think we should use our own natural resources as best we can such a wind and biomass.
Uranium is quite common in nature so it's cost won't go up greatly in time; certainly nowhere close compared to the price of fossil fuels. As with most mineral ores, it would need to be imported into Ireland but the amounts needed wouldn't be huge in comparison to, say coal or oil.
billyj1: Yes if renewable was done right then it would be of huge benefit to Ireland and create jobs and give us control of our energy prices and security. It's just when big greedy guys get involved purely for quick profit then things can go pear shaped like what happened with the whole property thing. It just has to be controlled and done with the benefit of all in mind.
greed is part of human nature which is all around and slowly destroying us
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Shell to Sea protest at Bellanaboy site Co Mayo
A protestor is removed from the sit down protest
Picture by Peter Wilcock
An Píopa (the Pipe)(brand new documentary)
This is an award winning documentary which was directed by Risteard Ó Domhnaill. In a remote corner of the west of Ireland sits Broadhaven Bay. It is the perfect picture postcard, where the high cliffs of Erris Head and the Stags of Broadhaven stand sentry at the mouth of the bay against the mighty Atlantic, as if protecting the delicate golden sands of Glengad beach and the tiny village of Rossport which nestles behind the dunes. However this peaceful tranquility belies the turmoil that lies beneath, and the unique nature of the coastline which has sustained generations of farmers and fishermen, has also delivered to Shell Oil the perfect landfall for the Corrib Gas Pipeline. An Píopa (The Pipe) is a story of a community tragically divided, and the prospect of a gas pipeline that can bring economic prosperity or destroy a way of life shared for generations. Four years in the making, this documentary tells the story of the small Rossport community which has taken on the might of Shell Oil and the Irish State.
Five men from the locality have spent 94 days in jail rather than let the proposed Shell pipeline cross their lands. This once tranquil area is engulfed in turmoil, as huge numbers of Gardaí and private security personnel are drafted in. Normal policing has broken down following baton charges, surveillance, arrests, and a hunger strike by a local schoolteacher. With the imminent arrival of the world's largest pipe laying vessel, the Solitaire, a massive security operation is put into action by the State to ensure that the pipe is laid without interference. When all hope seems lost, events take a dramatic turn...
Following the personal experience of three main characters at the height of local tension, this is a story of a community tragically divided, and the prospect of a pipeline that can bring economic prosperity or destroy a way of life shared for generations.
This project received funding from the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland’s Sound and Vision scheme as well as from Irish Film Board. Produced by Scannáin Inbhear Teo.
TG4 Wednesday 09 February 21.30