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Feb 19, 2011 2:06 AM CST Could this happen in your country
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Many Bahrainis have told Sky News they are more determined than ever for the country's monarchy and government to be removed, but they are keen for their demonstrations to be peaceful.

A huge section of the crowd at the funeral procession in the village of Sitra, on Manama's outskirts, was made up of women - unusual for a country where they are traditionally kept out of sight.

One said: "I'm not concerned, I'm very optimistic. We are calling for transformation."

After allowing several days of rallies by disaffected Shia Muslims, the royal rulers of the island nation, which lies east of Saudi Arabia, unleashed riot police in the capital on Wednesday night.

They stormed a protest encampment at the Pearl roundabout in the early hours of Thursday, firing tear gas, beating demonstrators and blasting them with shotgun sprays of birdshot.

The willingness to resort to violence against largely peaceful demonstrators has been seen as a sign of how deeply the Sunni monarchy - which rules over a Shia majority - fears prolonged protests.

Authorities have also escalated their physical attacks on media trying to report the unrest, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists.

Mohammed Abdel Dayem, the CPJ's Middle East and North Africa programme coordinator, said: "Governments throughout the Middle East and North Africa cannot deny their citizens coverage of these momentous events across the region.

"Local and international media must be allowed to cover the news."

Several journalists have reported that Bahraini authorities are barring them from entering the country, while others have reported physical assaults and confiscation of equpiment.

The latest uprising appears to have been inspired by a wave of anti-government unrest sweeping the Middle East and North Africa.

Nearly three weeks of protests in Egypt resulted in president Hosni Mubarak stepping down last Friday after some 30 years in power.

Tunisia's president quit in January and fled the country following violent clashes. There have also been deadly protests this week against Colonel Gaddafi's regime in Libya.

Bahrain's foreign minister Khalid Al Khalifa said the military crackdown was necessary because the demonstrators were polarising the country "and pushing it to the brink of the sectarian abyss".

Speaking to reporters after an emergency meeting with his Gulf counterparts in Manama, he called the violence regrettable and said the deaths would be investigated.

He defended the retaliation by the authorities by saying authorities chose to clear people from the landmark Pearl roundabout by force at 3am, when fewer people were there, to reduce the possibility of casualties.

Many of the protesters were sleeping and said they received little warning of the assault.

Dozens are said to be still missing following the early morning raid, prompting fears that the true death toll is much higher than being reported by officials.

In the wake of the bloodshed, angry demonstrators at one hospital chanted: "The regime must go!"

The White House has called for restraint on both sides. Bahrain is a key ally of the West and the base of the US Navy's 5th Fleet.

The fallout from the protests is also being felt in the sporting world, with next month's Bahrain Grand Prix at risk of being cancelled.

:: Britain reviews arms deals with Bahrain in wake of violence

:: Bahrain prince: 'Arab-Israeli issue is key'


Could this happen in your countrygrin angel devil
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Feb 19, 2011 2:14 AM CST Could this happen in your country
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts


Is it time for us as well? devil

Not fond of bloodshed, and peace is always transitory for some reason... but I could go for some nevertheless... there or here. cool wine
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Feb 19, 2011 2:22 AM CST Could this happen in your country
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
gininitaly: http://www.connectingsingles.com/forum_0_164728_1/middle_east_revolt_youth_technology_are_driving_ch.htm

Is it time for us as well?

Not fond of bloodshed, and peace is always transitory for some reason... but I could go for some nevertheless... there or here.


I missed your previous replies, many people don't care though and will go down the slippery slope through ignoranceangel angel devil
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Feb 19, 2011 2:36 AM CST Could this happen in your country
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
Hi TomWwave

Yes, watching it all as it happens here on the ABC news site..

I dont know if anything like this could happen in our country, because our pollies are voted in and out like yoyos if they dont come up to scratch...

But if we absolutely disagree strongly with something, we sure do make a fuss...

i dont blame these people for wanting rights...and with the beginning of this new century, and with the media now openly able to give the world news of whats happening,, they can see us, as we can see them... and it's no wonder they are wanting freedom to do, say, and think what they want.

Of course, the despots are wanting to remain the same.. they are oldish and have one idea in their head that does not gell with the younger ones.. tis just a generation equilibrium that needs to be ridden out.. peacefully, I dont think so...
Sadly...

BTW

Mass bribery doesn't work here... Cruddy Ruddy tried it and we all took the money and was glad to see the back of him.. he is now our minister for foreign affairs..
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Feb 19, 2011 2:42 AM CST Could this happen in your country
carenza
carenzacarenzanear the sea, South Holland Netherlands82 Threads 1 Polls 3,113 Posts
no, I don't think this could happen in my country.
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Feb 19, 2011 2:45 AM CST Could this happen in your country
Medsummer
MedsummerMedsummerflopping around on the beach, Liguria Italy78 Threads 8 Polls 1,682 Posts
"could this happen in your country"

Depending on the country it probably already has which has led to their government and society today. If you compare the times of the revolutions in regards to how the people were ruled when it happened to how these people are being ruled today.

A short list:
Magna Carta in England,
French Revolution,
American Revolution,
Russian Revolution
and so on...
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Feb 19, 2011 2:46 AM CST Could this happen in your country
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Mass bribery doesn't work here... Cruddy Ruddy tried it and we all took the money and was glad to see the back of him.. he is now our minister for foreign affairs..


I just love Oz, and you my lovely but never say neverteddybear
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Feb 19, 2011 2:48 AM CST Could this happen in your country
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Medsummer: "could this happen in your country"

Depending on the country it probably already has which has led to their government and society today. If you compare the times of the revolutions in regards to how the people were ruled when it happened to how these people are being ruled today.

A short list:
Magna Carta in England,
French Revolution,
American Revolution,
Russian Revolution
and so on...


I agree with you 100%, but it will happen againgrin angel devil
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Feb 19, 2011 2:53 AM CST Could this happen in your country
Medsummer
MedsummerMedsummerflopping around on the beach, Liguria Italy78 Threads 8 Polls 1,682 Posts
tomcatwarne: I agree with you 100%, but it will happen again


your saying it will happen again...be specific unless your just another one of the crazy voices out there spouting malcontentism against "modern society" governed by, dare I say,
quote-fair-unquote governments?
Yet, it was rebel-rousers and malcontents who start all revolutions.
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Feb 19, 2011 2:56 AM CST Could this happen in your country
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Medsummer: your saying it will happen again...be specific unless your just another one of the crazy voices out there spouting malcontentism against "modern society" governed by, dare I say,
quote-fair-unquote governments?
Yet, it was rebel-rousers and malcontents who start all revolutions.


Ah yes Watt Tyler springs to mind. You just have to look at current afffairs in the middle east to notice the trend, I usually do have a concrete basis for my commentsgrin angel devil
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Feb 19, 2011 3:01 AM CST Could this happen in your country
Medsummer
MedsummerMedsummerflopping around on the beach, Liguria Italy78 Threads 8 Polls 1,682 Posts
tomcatwarne: Ah yes Watt Tyler springs to mind. You just have to look at current afffairs in the middle east to notice the trend, I usually do have a concrete basis for my comments


Yes, but the middle-east trend is among countries ruled by dictators is it not?

time for me to go...shopping!
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Feb 19, 2011 3:02 AM CST Could this happen in your country
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Medsummer: Yes, but the middle-east trend is among countries ruled by dictators is it not?

time for me to go...shopping!



Have a good shopgrin angel devil
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Feb 19, 2011 3:08 AM CST Could this happen in your country
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
tomcatwarne: Mass bribery doesn't work here... Cruddy Ruddy tried it and we all took the money and was glad to see the back of him.. he is now our minister for foreign affairs..I just love Oz, and you my lovely but never say never


I know... I would never say never...

but Jeez, the stirrings are there with ( this week we taxpayers had to fork out for the illegals to go to Sydney for the funeral of the other boat people who died as their boat smashed up on Christmas Island.)

Well, errrm... if one of our relatives died... I dont think we get a free ride interstate to attend a funeral.

But just little incidents like these are mounting discontent.

Course... we would never openly say anything tho..

But........

and there you have it... many of these little incidents will remove Julia Gillard... peacefully at the next election...
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Feb 19, 2011 3:13 AM CST Could this happen in your country
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Merriweather: I know... I would never say never...

but Jeez, the stirrings are there with ( this week we taxpayers had to fork out for the illegals to go to Sydney for the funeral of the other boat people who died as their boat smashed up on Christmas Island.)

Well, errrm... if one of our relatives died... I dont think we get a free ride interstate to attend a funeral.

But just little incidents like these are mounting discontent.

Course... we would never openly say anything tho..

But........

and there you have it... many of these little incidents will remove Julia Gillard... peacefully at the next election...


I hear you Merri, many countries have the same problem with immigarnts seemingly being given preferential treatment. In the UK because of the current trend for political correctness, many new immigrants seem to zoom to the top of benefits and housing lists to the detriment of the indiginous peeps. JMOgrin angel devil
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Feb 19, 2011 3:37 AM CST Could this happen in your country
bestbefore
bestbeforebestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK116 Threads 2 Polls 4,701 Posts
Morning Tom,

Living in a country ruled by Royalty one has to wonder what would happen if they were ever to be overthrown!

Personally I cannot see this happenening but as Merri said " Never say never"

This country as with many others is suffering a credit crunch,and drastic cuts ARE being made that are not popular with the people,especially as immigrants are getting much more in benefits than pensioners who have subscribed to the system,which is causing a lot of unrest at the moment.

As for the Middle East it would appear that there is a "domino effect" regards governments and the people are beginning to realise just how deprived they actually are at the expense of greedy polititians.
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Feb 19, 2011 3:44 AM CST Could this happen in your country
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
bestbefore: Morning Tom,

Living in a country ruled by Royalty one has to wonder what would happen if they were ever to be overthrown!

Personally I cannot see this happenening but as Merri said " Never say never"

This country as with many others is suffering a credit crunch,and drastic cuts ARE being made that are not popular with the people,especially as immigrants are getting much more in benefits than pensioners who have subscribed to the system,which is causing a lot of unrest at the moment.

As for the Middle East it would appear that there is a "domino effect" regards governments and the people are beginning to realise just how deprived they actually are at the expense of greedy polititians.


Morning Best, I understand in the UK now some pesioners are facing cuts in their pensions whist immigarants are getting more. I cannot see the justice of this, and I am sure it will backfire on the government at the next election. The British people are slow to complain but things seem so serious now it will take very little to spark things off.grin angel devil
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Feb 19, 2011 3:53 AM CST Could this happen in your country
bestbefore
bestbeforebestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK116 Threads 2 Polls 4,701 Posts
The Government is cutting it's own throat at the moment.They are planning to extend the retirement dates so people work longer before receiving a Pension. Whatever happened to choice dunno

We have a coalition Government which is clearly not working,and I personally feel that the Conservatives have lost the faith of the people who voted them in [ and on a slim vote hence a coalition] Nick Clegg has ruined the Lib Dem Party by jumping in to bed with David Cameron,so who have we leftconfused

Our Welfare System ,whilst good in part, is propping up wasters and cheats who bleed the system. Then again if wages are lower than benefits I rest my case.handshake
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Feb 19, 2011 3:57 AM CST Could this happen in your country
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
bestbefore: The Government is cutting it's own throat at the moment.They are planning to extend the retirement dates so people work longer before receiving a Pension. Whatever happened to choice

We have a coalition Government which is clearly not working,and I personally feel that the Conservatives have lost the faith of the people who voted them in [ and on a slim vote hence a coalition] Nick Clegg has ruined the Lib Dem Party by jumping in to bed with David Cameron,so who have we left

Our Welfare System ,whilst good in part, is propping up wasters and cheats who bleed the system. Then again if wages are lower than benefits I rest my case.


I hear you Best, I don't live in the UK now, and move around a bit, looking from the outside people wondeer what the hell is going on in UKgrin angel devil
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Feb 19, 2011 4:01 AM CST Could this happen in your country
JeanMarlow
JeanMarlowJeanMarlowMiddle of Nowhere, California USA17 Threads 815 Posts
tomcatwarne: A huge section of the crowd at the funeral procession in the village of Sitra, on Manama's outskirts, was made up of women - unusual for a country where they are traditionally kept out of sight.

Women in Bahrain are not "generally kept out of sight."
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Feb 19, 2011 4:01 AM CST Could this happen in your country
bestbefore
bestbeforebestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK116 Threads 2 Polls 4,701 Posts
tomcatwarne: I hear you Best, I don't live in the UK now, and move around a bit, looking from the outside people wondeer what the hell is going on in UK


Actually Tom, we are not much different from many other countries at the moment. The World is in a financial crisis and watch the cream rise to the top of the milk. China..............
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