Restrictions on Habeas Corpus (73)
online today!online today!Conrad73Zurich, Switzerland204 Threads 6 Polls 59,471 Postsgleneagle: So Is that why John Walker Lindh was taken back and given twenty years after he was arrested post Taliban uprising?
John Phillip Walker Lindh (born February 9, 1981) is an American citizen who was captured as an enemy combatant during the United States' 2001 invasion of Afghanistan. He is now serving a 20-year prison sentence in connection with his participation in Afghanistan's Taliban army. He was captured during the Battle of Qala-i-Jangi, a violent Taliban prison uprising where American CIA officer Johnny "Mike" Spann was killed.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Walker_Lindh
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gleneagle: So Is that why John Walker Lindh was taken back and given twenty years after he was arrested post Taliban uprising?
John Walker actually should have been put before a firing squad for treason. Or at least he COULD have been. US Citizens participating in acts of war against the USA have a TRULY special status.
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Conrad73: John Phillip Walker Lindh (born February 9, 1981) is an American citizen who was captured as an enemy combatant during the United States' 2001 invasion of Afghanistan. He is now serving a 20-year prison sentence in connection with his participation in Afghanistan's Taliban army. He was captured during the Battle of Qala-i-Jangi, a violent Taliban prison uprising where American CIA officer Johnny "Mike" Spann was killed.
Mr Conrad I wish to inform you that my eyesight does not require your use of large print. 
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gardenhackle: John Walker actually should have been put before a firing squad for treason. Or at least he COULD have been. US Citizens participating in acts of war against the USA have a TRULY special status.
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gleneagle: Mr Conrad I wish to inform you that my eyesight does not require your use of large print.
Actually I think that was mostly meant for me... LOL! I was the ignorant one if you remember.
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gleneagle: Mr Conrad I wish to inform you that my eyesight does not require your use of large print.
I didn't say so!Would be bad at your age!
Just highlighted the important Passage!
That the Guy was indeed an American Citizen,and that it was the reason to ship him back Stateside!
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gardenhackle: John Walker actually should have been put before a firing squad for treason. Or at least he COULD have been. US Citizens participating in acts of war against the USA have a TRULY special status.
Yes, I think the firing squad would have been most appropriate.
What a waste of our taxpayers money.That darn Habeus Corpus.
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LILLYLADY: Yes, I think the firing squad would have been most appropriate. What a waste of our taxpayers money.
That darn Habeus Corpus.
That darn Habeus Corpus.
Sorry folks, I meant "darn"...not damn.
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Habeas Corpus is protected by Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution, which states, “The privilege of the writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.”
Therefore, IMHO, I feel that even if someone is attempting harm on this country they should be brought here and brought to justice. ow the sentence should be carried out and where.
Therefore, IMHO, I feel that even if someone is attempting harm on this country they should be brought here and brought to justice. ow the sentence should be carried out and where.
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It is not a case of Habeas Corpus but it is a clear case of infringement of Human Rights by U.S. (being the torch bearer of Human Rights)
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LILLYLADY: Yes, I think the firing squad would have been most appropriate. What a waste of our taxpayers money.
That darn Habeus Corpus.
That darn Habeus Corpus.
Think about it this way Lilly, restrictions on Habeas Corpus undermine the war against terror and put our national security further at risk. Habeas Corpus legitimizes the war against terror by ensuring that US actions against suspected terrorists have some legal basis and are not purely subjective. Furthermore, if the US disregards Habeas protections, it sets a dangerous precedent for the rest of the world to follow. If other countries followed suit, US citizens abroad could be indefinitely detained with no legal recourse.
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Isn't Habeas Corpus Jimmys Hendrexes back up band.
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Colleene1024: It's basically saying that we should not fight a war with one hand tied behind our backs. Also, The events of September 11 constituted an unprecedented attack on American soil. The US government must do everything in its power to ensure that the individuals responsible cannot participate in further terrorist activities. Restricting suspected terrorists’ rights to challenge their detentions is necessary to achieve that goal. Terror suspects still have recourse to military tribunals, which contain many of the same safeguards as the federal court system.
They'd have a tough job participating any further - they all died in the plane crash.
If America want's to win friends and influence people ..... then stay the hell out of other countries affairs and politics - or suffer the consequences - America's opinion is irrelevant. Since America is so deep into espionage in other countries, then perhaps Europe and Arabic countries should treat all American tourists as 'spies' and incarcerate them in Auswitch, without trial or rights, until the US desists from it's espionage activities, after all Europe and the Arabic countries have the right to defend themselves against such outrageous activities.
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ZAKER: It is not a case of Habeas Corpus but it is a clear case of infringement of Human Rights by U.S. (being the torch bearer of Human Rights)
What is?
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ZAKER: It is not a case of Habeas Corpus but it is a clear case of infringement of Human Rights by U.S. (being the torch bearer of Human Rights)
So what your tell me is, if the US raised up against India like a taliban and caused terrorism, your country would not try to go after the people who started it and bring them to justice?
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Trealach01: They'd have a tough job participating any further - they all died in the plane crash. If America want's to win friends and influence people ..... then stay the hell out of other countries affairs and politics - or suffer the consequences - America's opinion is irrelevant. Since America is so deep into espionage in other countries, then perhaps Europe and Arabic countries should treat all American tourists as 'spies' and incarcerate them in Auswitch, without trial or rights, until the US desists from it's espionage activities, after all Europe and the Arabic countries have the right to defend themselves against such outrageous activities.
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Trealach01: They'd have a tough job participating any further - they all died in the plane crash. If America want's to win friends and influence people ..... then stay the hell out of other countries affairs and politics - or suffer the consequences - America's opinion is irrelevant. Since America is so deep into espionage in other countries, then perhaps Europe and Arabic countries should treat all American tourists as 'spies' and incarcerate them in Auswitch, without trial or rights, until the US desists from it's espionage activities, after all Europe and the Arabic countries have the right to defend themselves against such outrageous activities.
I'm with you on that. I have alot of issues with my country! I am just woundering how others feel about the Habeous Corpus as it has been adopted into other countries as well.
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Of course when John Walker joined the Taliban the United States was not at war with them. Just to clear a point in my mind;Did the US actually declare war?
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Conrad73: Were German Prisoners of War,interned in the US kidnapped?
They were not denounced by folk who took money for denouncing often innocent people.
At least 5 Brits who are now chasing and getting compensation.
Numerous Pakistanis and a load of Afghanies as well.
Many Iraq's as well the list id fairly long.
These folk were not combatants, that is what makes the rendition shakey.
Captured on the field of war is different.
As POW's the US can and did take them but not the folk I have described.
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patmac: They were not denounced by folk who took money for denouncing often innocent people.
At least 5 Brits who are now chasing and getting compensation.
Numerous Pakistanis and a load of Afghanies as well.
Many Iraq's as well the list id fairly long.
These folk were not combatants, that is what makes the rendition shakey.
Captured on the field of war is different.
As POW's the US can and did take them but not the folk I have described.
At least 5 Brits who are now chasing and getting compensation.
Numerous Pakistanis and a load of Afghanies as well.
Many Iraq's as well the list id fairly long.
These folk were not combatants, that is what makes the rendition shakey.
Captured on the field of war is different.
As POW's the US can and did take them but not the folk I have described.
So, once an individual is captured and brought to the countries own soil that was under attack, should they be given the Habeous Corpus right?
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