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Feb 27, 2011 11:18 AM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
Looking_Heart
Looking_HeartLooking_HeartSPRINGFIELD, Missouri USA15 Threads 5 Polls 592 Posts
watch this video and get a lesson in reality professor

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Feb 27, 2011 11:42 AM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
I couldn't get passed the first few minutes after his attack on the dialectic;

In the Soviet Union the dialecticism of the Marxists/Trotskyites was the first thing the Stalinist's attacked - after all asking questions, viewing both sides and the shades of grey between would be a promotion of reason, and reason is harmful to power and control.

The reason in dialecticism is crucial to freedom as emotion is far easier to control than thought.
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Feb 27, 2011 11:53 AM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
Looking_Heart
Looking_HeartLooking_HeartSPRINGFIELD, Missouri USA15 Threads 5 Polls 592 Posts
TrueBlue1986: I couldn't get passed the first few minutes after his attack on the dialectic;

In the Soviet Union the dialecticism of the Marxists/Trotskyites was the first thing the Stalinist's attacked - after all asking questions, viewing both sides and the shades of grey between would be a promotion of reason, and reason is harmful to power and control.

The reason in dialecticism is crucial to freedom as emotion is far easier to control than thought.


then you'll learn nothing and continue to remain ignorant.

watch the entire video, the debate only lives within your mind professor
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Feb 27, 2011 5:24 PM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
Looking_Heart: watch this video and get a lesson in reality


That was an hour long! Interesting but I want to know more about tier two and three...conversing
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Feb 27, 2011 5:34 PM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
The dialectic tecniques of systematic evil in the world tries to creats a crisis to induce good people to do something they would not ordinarily do.

How interesting is that?

So what about

911

Tunesia, Egypt, Libya

Iran

what are/is the dialectic goal of these crises?
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Feb 27, 2011 10:09 PM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
Looking_Heart
Looking_HeartLooking_HeartSPRINGFIELD, Missouri USA15 Threads 5 Polls 592 Posts
Paldi5: The dialectic tecniques of systematic evil in the world tries to creats a crisis to induce good people to do something they would not ordinarily do.

How interesting is that?

So what about

911

Tunesia, Egypt, Libya

Iran

what are/is the dialectic goal of these crises?


I think he was pointing more towards the control behind the scenes, not so much a debate. you cant debate the hidden or the untouchable.

at least that's what i got from it? although i've known for years who was pulling some of the strings, he just re-enforced most of my belief and theories/suspicions wink
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Feb 27, 2011 11:03 PM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
How come every conspiracy theorist can only post you tube stuff. Don't their sources know how to read, write, post studies and facts along with explanations or is this just something where people who still live in their mothers basements patch some vids together and let fly?confused

Anyhow, to the op, I don't have an hour to listen to this rambling affair yet wish to see some sort of evidence of your contention. Please post the timelines of the stuff that you wish to show us along with a brief explanation of what I am going to watch.thumbs up
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Feb 27, 2011 11:31 PM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
Looking_Heart
Looking_HeartLooking_HeartSPRINGFIELD, Missouri USA15 Threads 5 Polls 592 Posts
Albertaghost: How come every conspiracy theorist can only post you tube stuff. Don't their sources know how to read, write, post studies and facts along with explanations or is this just something where people who still live in their mothers basements patch some vids together and let fly?

Anyhow, to the op, I don't have an hour to listen to this rambling affair yet wish to see some sort of evidence of your contention. Please post the timelines of the stuff that you wish to show us along with a brief explanation of what I am going to watch.


lol

watch the video
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Feb 27, 2011 11:37 PM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Looking_Heart: lol

watch the video


Lol. Read every newspaper and encyclopedia. They will refute your hour long vid anytime.rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 27, 2011 11:40 PM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
Looking_Heart
Looking_HeartLooking_HeartSPRINGFIELD, Missouri USA15 Threads 5 Polls 592 Posts
Albertaghost: Lol. Read every newspaper and encyclopedia. They will refute your hour long vid anytime.


rolling on the floor laughing Canadians
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Feb 27, 2011 11:57 PM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Looking_Heart: then why are you here ranting about something you haven't even watched?

your opinion on this subject is irrelevant until doing so.

SAVVY


Wasn't ranting. I wish to know but don't have time to waste listening to an entire hour of stuff just to see what you are talking about.

If I were going to explain something complicated to you I certainly wouldn't refer you to a book and expect you to read it cover to cover so, would point out certain passages and explain how they tied in with my beliefs and what I felt was going on.

You on the other hand expect me to sit through an hour long vid without citing the timeliness where your point is justified.

Which led me to point out that conspiracy theorists rely heavily on videos for some reason. Possibly because passages cannot be held up for examination and fact checking. which is why I asked for timelines and explanations of what each was.

Or, you could just provide a transcript.
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Feb 28, 2011 12:47 AM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
Albertaghost: Lol. Read every newspaper and encyclopedia. They will refute your hour long vid anytime.


Well think about it Alberta.... why should the information in the media be any more true, if as the video says... they have been told to manipulate the information fed to the public? confused

It's a Catch 22, what IS the truth? What we're fed by a mega media that has systematically bought out the little newspaper for a one way information push or how to find the real facts that are slithering away in the brush?

I understand that you always want facts, I think we all do, it's just that they may be more ephemeral than you may believe.
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Feb 28, 2011 12:56 AM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
While I may not agree with everything this guy says... perhaps it does come down to the fundamental difference in personality types and how they function and influence within any particular situation.

There have always been the power and greed driven and there have always been the more peaceful, live and let live types... so who do you think would be the more apt to organize and strategize in their own favor? dunno
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Feb 28, 2011 12:59 AM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
gininitaly: Well think about it Alberta.... why should the information in the media be any more true, if as the video says... they have been told to manipulate the information fed to the public?

It's a Catch 22, what IS the truth? What we're fed by a mega media that has systematically bought out the little newspaper for a one way information push or how to find the real facts that are slithering away in the brush?

I understand that you always want facts, I think we all do, it's just that they may be more ephemeral than you may believe.



You missed the point Gin. I never said one was better but rather that if he was to read all the books and all the news articles in all the world they would refute that one hour long video.

However, I hardly expect him to do so so why on earth would he expect me to waste an hour of my life watching any vid that any person posts here on this site without citing exactly what portion is applicable to their argument after posting their explanation of what I am going to see.

Here, to better explain it, pick any site on this media and you will see what I mean. Return when you have watched every vid, read every article and accessed all the sites;

www
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Feb 28, 2011 1:01 AM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
Did the guy provide a "Brief" on his content on line somewhere uh oh
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Feb 28, 2011 1:05 AM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
DeusExMachina
DeusExMachinaDeusExMachinahaaltert, Oost Vlaanderen Belgium55 Threads 1 Polls 2,705 Posts
Is that your father?He looks alot like you.
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Feb 28, 2011 1:07 AM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
jvaski: Did the guy provide a "Brief" on his content on line somewhere


"watch the entire video, the debate only lives within your mind"doh

No sense narrowing anything down. Like we all have thousands of hours to chase red herrings.
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Feb 28, 2011 1:09 AM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
Albertaghost: You missed the point Gin. I never said one was better but rather that if he was to read all the books and all the news articles in all the world they would refute that one hour long video.

However, I hardly expect him to do so so why on earth would he expect me to waste an hour of my life watching any vid that any person posts here on this site without citing exactly what portion is applicable to their argument after posting their explanation of what I am going to see.

Here, to better explain it, pick any site on this media and you will see what I mean. Return when you have watched every vid, read every article and accessed all the sites;

www


Well why not? It's called breaking out of our preconceived notions, how can you refute something without even knowing what it is? You won't watch an hour video, but you'll go on for an hour defending a position that may be outlandish considering that you are uninformed and refuse to look at something you intuit might go against your mind set.

A bit insular don't you think?
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Feb 28, 2011 1:09 AM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
Looking_Heart: watch this video and get a lesson in reality
Yep,a little Snippet here,a little Snippet there!
I you can't convince them,Confuse them!
Why no Transcript?
Would it show something totally different than intended by PRISON-Planet?uh oh
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Feb 28, 2011 1:15 AM CST Understanding The True Nature Of Politics And Its Finality
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
Conrad73: Yep,a little Snippet here,a little Snippet there!
I you can't convince them,Confuse them!
Why no Transcript?
Would it show something totally different than intended by PRISON-Planet?


Like shooting the messenger will change the message? laugh

Besides, we already know where you stand Con... on the side of Evil. devil tongue
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