Turning down a job that pays €28k per year (165)

Mar 10, 2011 10:39 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
I saw an article in the Irish Independent where an employer said that 2 people turned down a job for €28k because there better off not working. Surely this is a shocking indictment of Ireland's extremely generous welfare state.



I mentioned it to my father and he told me that not so long people would have tried their hand at any job, its also shocking that FG and Labour aren;t going to reduce social welfare benefits according to their programme for government.
Mar 10, 2011 10:44 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
JustLittleMe
JustLittleMeJustLittleMeDublin, Wicklow Ireland115 Threads 7 Polls 2,280 Posts
Easy to know you have a job by the tone of that............






But I asked the question a few months back if I was better off on the dole..........to answer your question if I was offered a job with that salary I would jump at the chance, but if a person with a partner and 3 kids was offered it, they would be coming out with the same amount, so I can understand why they would turn it down. Also my understanding would be a single mother would have to seriously consider that offer too.
Mar 10, 2011 10:49 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
handsupintheair
handsupintheairhandsupintheairLetterkenny, Donegal Ireland1 Threads 7 Posts
Ken35: I saw an article in the Irish Independent where an employer said that 2 people turned down a job for €28k because there better off not working. Surely this is a shocking indictment of Ireland's extremely generous welfare state.



I mentioned it to my father and he told me that not so long people would have tried their hand at any job, its also shocking that FG and Labour aren;t going to reduce social welfare benefits according to their programme for government.


Surely the employer should be able to contact Social Welfare and inform them that two social welfare recipients had turned down the job. dunno The would soon lose their dole then
Mar 10, 2011 10:49 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
JustLittleMe: Easy to know you have a job by the tone of that............
But I asked the question a few months back if I was better off on the dole..........to answer your question if I was offered a job with that salary I would jump at the chance, but if a person with a partner and 3 kids was offered it, they would be coming out with the same amount, so I can understand why they would turn it down. Also my understanding would be a single mother would have to seriously consider that offer too.


First there are plenty of unemployed people with kids who would rather be working even if it meant they would be better off not working. Secondly, It is a dreadful example to set to kids to turn down a job no matter what the pay is, anyone who turns down one job offer should have their welfare benefits cut by 50%.

People shouldn't turn down job offers given the current economic environemnet no matter what the pay is, returning to employment gives people a sense of dignity and it means that they have a chance of furthering their career once they get back to work.

Do you think its a good example to set to young children to turn down a job offer especially in the present economic environment?
Mar 10, 2011 10:50 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
Ken35: I saw an article in the Irish Independent where an employer said that 2 people turned down a job for €28k because there better off not working. Surely this is a shocking indictment of Ireland's extremely generous welfare state.



I mentioned it to my father and he told me that not so long people would have tried their hand at any job, its also shocking that FG and Labour aren;t going to reduce social welfare benefits according to their programme for government.


I would take a job @28k a year no problem, I have little or no responsibilities like children or a mortgage so I could live happily on that, You have to take personal circumstances into account, I'm sure a single mother with 4 children living off welfare would need her head examined if she took a job @28k a year and could you blame here for refusing it
Mar 10, 2011 10:50 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
handsupintheair: Surely the employer should be able to contact Social Welfare and inform them that two social welfare recipients had turned down the job. The would soon lose their dole then


Apparently in Ireland people don't lose their dole if they turn down a job offer.
Mar 10, 2011 10:51 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
Ken35: I saw an article in the Irish Independent where an employer said that 2 people turned down a job for €28k because there better off not working. Surely this is a shocking indictment of Ireland's extremely generous welfare state.



I mentioned it to my father and he told me that not so long people would have tried their hand at any job, its also shocking that FG and Labour aren;t going to reduce social welfare benefits according to their programme for government.


I'll bet you're sorry the Brits left in 1922 as well! I hope your own job is as secure as you think it is!dunno
Mar 10, 2011 10:52 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
Godsgift: I'll bet you're sorry the Brits left in 1922 as well! I hope your own job is as secure as you think it is!


It isn't secure but you seem to think its alright for people with kids to be better off not working?
Mar 10, 2011 10:53 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
handsupintheair
handsupintheairhandsupintheairLetterkenny, Donegal Ireland1 Threads 7 Posts
Ken35: Apparently in Ireland people don't lose their dole if they turn down a job offer.


Really? I don't know the ins and outs of it, but I would have thought that signing on every week you are declaring that you are actively seeking work, and are available for work..and that any work within your qualifications or experience should be considereddunno
Mar 10, 2011 10:59 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
handsupintheair: Really? I don't know the ins and outs of it, but I would have thought that signing on every week you are declaring that you are actively seeking work, and are available for work..and that any work within your qualifications or experience should be considered


In Ireland there really isn't any rigourous criteria for signing and actively seeking work whereas in the UK people have to regular go for interviews with a job centre to show that they are actively seeking work.
Mar 10, 2011 11:01 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
handsupintheair
handsupintheairhandsupintheairLetterkenny, Donegal Ireland1 Threads 7 Posts
Ken35: In Ireland there really isn't any rigourous criteria for signing and actively seeking work whereas in the UK people have to regular go for interviews with a job centre to show that they are actively seeking work.


I know we were recruiting staff in my workplace about two years ago. One of the interviewees who wasn't successful contacted our office a week or two after the interview to get a letter to show Social Welfare that she had been in for an interview, but that she wasn't successfuldunno
Mar 10, 2011 11:02 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
Ken35: That proves my point that welfare benefits are far too generous in Ireland, welfare rates should be brought into line with the UK after a cost of living analysis has taken place.


Cost of living is considerably higher here in comparison with the UK so maybe when Food, rents and other bills fall into line with that of the UK ,wefare rates here should be adjusted accordingly, I wouldn't begrude a lone parent getting social welfare, dont you think they have a hard enough job as it is trying to raise children, Your not going to get rich off welfare
Mar 10, 2011 11:03 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
JustLittleMe
JustLittleMeJustLittleMeDublin, Wicklow Ireland115 Threads 7 Polls 2,280 Posts
handsupintheair: I know we were recruiting staff in my workplace about two years ago. One of the interviewees who wasn't successful contacted our office a week or two after the interview to get a letter to show Social Welfare that she had been in for an interview, but that she wasn't successful


I had to miss a sign on day because of an interview, and I had to ask for a letter (MORTO by having to do it), but if you dont prove why you didnt sign on you are taken off the books and your payment is stopped.
Mar 10, 2011 11:05 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
irish84
irish84irish84monaghan, Monaghan Ireland72 Threads 3 Polls 8,745 Posts
In response to: I saw an article in the Irish Independent where an employer said that 2 people turned down a job for €28k because there better off not working. Surely this is a shocking indictment of Ireland's extremely generous welfare state.



I mentioned it to my father and he told me that not so long people would have tried their hand at any job, its also shocking that FG and Labour aren;t going to reduce social welfare benefits according to their programme for government.
i thought if you were on social welfare and you got offered a job , then turned it down that your payment/s would have been reduced? or was that just with the old goverment
Mar 10, 2011 11:07 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
Ken35: First there are plenty of unemployed people with kids who would rather be working even if it meant they would be better off not working. Secondly, It is a dreadful example to set to kids to turn down a job no matter what the pay is, anyone who turns down one job offer should have their welfare benefits cut by 50%.

People shouldn't turn down job offers given the current economic environemnet no matter what the pay is, returning to employment gives people a sense of dignity and it means that they have a chance of furthering their career once they get back to work.

Do you think its a good example to set to young children to turn down a job offer especially in the present economic environment?


Not wanting to sound offensive but your an idiot. Do you really think most ppl would go to work for less than they can claim???
Mar 10, 2011 11:09 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
Maverick147: Not wanting to sound offensive but your an idiot. Do you really think most ppl would go to work for less than they can claim???


If I was unemployed I work for less than I can claim in benefits, I believe a job gives someone a sense of dignity in life and If I turned down a job offer I would be setting a dreadful example to my son.
Mar 10, 2011 11:12 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
Ken35: Welafre benefits in the UK are only 40-45% that of Ireland, now do you think there is a 50% difference in the cost of living between Ireland and the UK, its more like 20-25%. People in Northern Ireland even say that they'd enjoy a far higher standard of living in the Republic on the dole than in Northern Ireland.


Just had a wee look at your profile which incidentally says nothing about you. I suspect you're not quite as wonderful as you think or you wouldn't be on here. There would be plenty women only too happy to settle down with your income and your charisma!

I'd be reasonably certain that you've known very little hardship in your life assuming of course that you are what you are claiming to be.conversing
Mar 10, 2011 11:13 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
Ken35: If I was unemployed I work for less than I can claim in benefits, I believe a job gives someone a sense of dignity in life and If I turned down a job offer I would be setting a dreadful example to my son.

Do you mean to tell me if you could claim let's say 450 a week you'd work for 300. I dont believe that for an instant.
Mar 10, 2011 11:13 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
Maverick147: Do you mean to tell me if you could claim let's say 450 a week you'd work for 300. I dont believe that for an instant.


Yes I would.
Mar 10, 2011 11:21 AM CST Turning down a job that pays €28k per year
JustLittleMe
JustLittleMeJustLittleMeDublin, Wicklow Ireland115 Threads 7 Polls 2,280 Posts
Ken35: Plenty of people in Ireland do live on a salary on €28k bringing up a family as well, grow up woman you seem to think that its a great example to set to kids to turn down a job?

There was a time in Ireland when people would work in any type of job, its obviously no longer the case.


B.........O.......L............L........O.........X

I think if you were to cut the quality of a child's life just so you could 'Teach then a lesson about dignity' you would have a god dam screw loose.
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