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Mar 27, 2011 7:37 AM CST uprising in syria
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
Hey Jude, don't make it bad...
Take a sad song and make it better.
Remember to let her into your heart,
then you can start to make it better

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IDF, settlers save Arab babySaving life after massacre: IDF troops, paramedics save life of Palestinian woman giving birth in settlement where Fogel relatives sitting Shiva. Soldier: It felt amazing to hold girl in my arms, know we did something good

Yair Altman Latest Update: 03.17.11, 01:06 After massacre, settlers help bring new life into world: IDF forces and local paramedics helped save the life of a Palestinian woman and her newly born infant Wednesday, at the settlement where Fogel relatives are sitting Shiva for the five Israelis brutally murdered last week.

Just as IDF Chief of Staff Benny Gantz arrived in Neve Tzuf to offer his condolences, a Palestinian cab raced towards the community's entrance.

In it, soldiers and paramedics discovered a Palestinian woman in her 20s in advanced stages of labor and facing a life-threatening situation: The umbilical cord was wrapped around the young baby girl's neck, endangering both her and her mother. The quick action of settler paramedics and IDF troops deployed in the area saved the mother's and baby's life, prompting great excitement and emotions at the site where residents are still mourning the brutal death of five local family members.

Corporal Haim Levin, 19, an IDF paramedic, was the first medical team member at the scene and recounted the dramatic situation he faced.

"When I arrived, I saw a woman covered by a blanket in a yellow Palestinian van. I moved closer and saw the baby's head and upper body," he told Ynet. "The umbilical cord was around the baby's neck; the baby was grey and didn't move."

"I first removed the cord from the neck and at the same time asked paramedics to prepare the baby resuscitation kit. I pinched her to see if she's responding, and she started to cry," he said. Paramedics also treated the mother, who was in good condition at that point, Levin said.

Paramedic: We treat everyone

Meanwhile, ambulance driver Orly Shlomo raced to the scene. "We joined the military paramedic and helped him cut off the umbilical cord…without the medical treatment, the fetus and woman faced genuine life danger," she told Ynet.

"It was touching, but I couldn't help but think that a few meters from there, people were sitting Shiva for another baby, who was murdered," she said. "I was touched to see the face of the new baby, but I also thought about the face of the murdered baby."

Gadi Amitun, who heads the Magen David Adom team at Neve Tzuf, said this was not the first time settlers assist Palestinians in distress.

"They know we have a skilled medical team here, and in any case of accident or injury they arrive and we help them," he said.

The paramedic noted that on the day of the Fogel massacre, settlers saw fireworks and celebrations in nearby Palestinian communities, but added that the local medical team is committed to assisting anyone in need.

"Two years ago, we also made sure to treat a terrorist who attempted to place a bomb on the road and was shot by soldiers," he said.

Palestinians from the nearby village of Nabi Salah gathered around the paramedics along with the new grandmother and could not hide their joy. "They thanked us and told us they named the girl Jude," Corporal Levin said.

"I volunteered for Magen David Adom since age 15 and it's the first time I witnessed childbirth. It was an amazing feeling, to hold the girl that was just born in my arms, and to know that in this complex place we did something good."

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They named her Jude... and in this complex place they did something good.

Remember Jude


happy birthday
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Mar 27, 2011 7:38 AM CST uprising in syria
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
I thought this was about Syria.....but I can see the age old issue has taken over....

Syria is part of the Isreal/Palestine issue.

If I have the history right. Arafat and el Fatah were booted out of Jordan by King Hussien.....after a really bloody 7 day fight. They show up at the Syrian border....were Assad senior....lets them entire, and pass thru enroute to Lebsnon.

But Assad had some demands on then for the entry and passage.
Soon Black September was organized....made up mostly with elFatah members and financed by Syria....for terrorist attacks on both Israel and the west. Black September was basically a proxie for Syria.

Bringing it to today. The younger Assad...is now promising a gov't investigation into doing reform and into easing the emergency laws of the 1970s. Those emergency laws were put into place because of the Isreal 7 day war. Also he lets out of prison....100....that the protestors want freed. According to the article I read...the 100...were mostly Islamics.

What I don't get here. Assad is Shia and in the other ME countries were the protest broke out it was Shia driven protest.
So now you are telling me that Syrian Shia are protesting against a Shia ruler, the son of a man that helped to begin Islamic terrorism? I don't think so.

No, rather I think that the Syrian protest are Sunni driven. Assad's been arresting Sunni radicals. Hosni Mubarak has been arresting Shia radicals. ben Alie been arresting Shia radicals.
QDaffi just been arrest them all that are outside of his tribe. The two sects have been using the rules that favors thier side....to arrest the radicals of the other side.

These present ME leaders fear Islamic radicalization as much as we do in the west.....it is a threat to their power.
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Mar 27, 2011 8:17 AM CST uprising in syria
Paldi5: Hey Jude, don't make it bad...
Take a sad song and make it better.
Remember to let her into your heart,
then you can start to make it better

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IDF, settlers save Arab babySaving life after massacre: IDF troops, paramedics save life of Palestinian woman giving birth in settlement where Fogel relatives sitting Shiva. Soldier: It felt amazing to hold girl in my arms, know we did something good

Yair Altman Latest Update: 03.17.11, 01:06 After massacre, settlers help bring new life into world: IDF forces and local paramedics helped save the life of a Palestinian woman and her newly born infant Wednesday, at the settlement where Fogel relatives are sitting Shiva for the five Israelis brutally murdered last week.

Just as IDF Chief of Staff Benny Gantz arrived in Neve Tzuf to offer his condolences, a Palestinian cab raced towards the community's entrance.

In it, soldiers and paramedics discovered a Palestinian woman in her 20s in advanced stages of labor and facing a life-threatening situation: The umbilical cord was wrapped around the young baby girl's neck, endangering both her and her mother. The quick action of settler paramedics and IDF troops deployed in the area saved the mother's and baby's life, prompting great excitement and emotions at the site where residents are still mourning the brutal death of five local family members.

Corporal Haim Levin, 19, an IDF paramedic, was the first medical team member at the scene and recounted the dramatic situation he faced.

"When I arrived, I saw a woman covered by a blanket in a yellow Palestinian van. I moved closer and saw the baby's head and upper body," he told Ynet. "The umbilical cord was around the baby's neck; the baby was grey and didn't move."

"I first removed the cord from the neck and at the same time asked paramedics to prepare the baby resuscitation kit. I pinched her to see if she's responding, and she started to cry," he said. Paramedics also treated the mother, who was in good condition at that point, Levin said.

Paramedic: We treat everyone

Meanwhile, ambulance driver Orly Shlomo raced to the scene. "We joined the military paramedic and helped him cut off the umbilical cord…without the medical treatment, the fetus and woman faced genuine life danger," she told Ynet.

"It was touching, but I couldn't help but think that a few meters from there, people were sitting Shiva for another baby, who was murdered," she said. "I was touched to see the face of the new baby, but I also thought about the face of the murdered baby."

Gadi Amitun, who heads the Magen David Adom team at Neve Tzuf, said this was not the first time settlers assist Palestinians in distress.

"They know we have a skilled medical team here, and in any case of accident or injury they arrive and we help them," he said.

The paramedic noted that on the day of the Fogel massacre, settlers saw fireworks and celebrations in nearby Palestinian communities, but added that the local medical team is committed to assisting anyone in need.

"Two years ago, we also made sure to treat a terrorist who attempted to place a bomb on the road and was shot by soldiers," he said.

Palestinians from the nearby village of Nabi Salah gathered around the paramedics along with the new grandmother and could not hide their joy. "They thanked us and told us they named the girl Jude," Corporal Levin said.

"I volunteered for Magen David Adom since age 15 and it's the first time I witnessed childbirth. It was an amazing feeling, to hold the girl that was just born in my arms, and to know that in this complex place we did something good."

================================

They named her Jude... and in this complex place they did something good.

Remember Jude
'cept that is NOT your Intent,Paldi,Master of the Comma!
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Mar 27, 2011 8:55 AM CST uprising in syria
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
Paldi5: IDF, settlers save Arab babySaving life after massacre: IDF troops, paramedics save life of Palestinian woman giving birth in settlement where Fogel relatives sitting Shiva. Soldier: It felt amazing to hold girl in my arms, know we did something good

Yair Altman Latest Update: 03.17.11, 01:06 After massacre, settlers help bring new life into world: IDF forces and local paramedics helped save the life of a Palestinian woman and her newly born infant Wednesday, at the settlement where Fogel relatives are sitting Shiva for the five Israelis brutally murdered last week.

Just as IDF Chief of Staff Benny Gantz arrived in Neve Tzuf to offer his condolences, a Palestinian cab raced towards the community's entrance.

In it, soldiers and paramedics discovered a Palestinian woman in her 20s in advanced stages of labor and facing a life-threatening situation: The umbilical cord was wrapped around the young baby girl's neck, endangering both her and her mother. The quick action of settler paramedics and IDF troops deployed in the area saved the mother's and baby's life, prompting great excitement and emotions at the site where residents are still mourning the brutal death of five local family members.

Corporal Haim Levin, 19, an IDF paramedic, was the first medical team member at the scene and recounted the dramatic situation he faced.

"When I arrived, I saw a woman covered by a blanket in a yellow Palestinian van. I moved closer and saw the baby's head and upper body," he told Ynet. "The umbilical cord was around the baby's neck; the baby was grey and didn't move."

"I first removed the cord from the neck and at the same time asked paramedics to prepare the baby resuscitation kit. I pinched her to see if she's responding, and she started to cry," he said. Paramedics also treated the mother, who was in good condition at that point, Levin said.

Paramedic: We treat everyone

Meanwhile, ambulance driver Orly Shlomo raced to the scene. "We joined the military paramedic and helped him cut off the umbilical cord…without the medical treatment, the fetus and woman faced genuine life danger," she told Ynet.

"It was touching, but I couldn't help but think that a few meters from there, people were sitting Shiva for another baby, who was murdered," she said. "I was touched to see the face of the new baby, but I also thought about the face of the murdered baby."

Gadi Amitun, who heads the Magen David Adom team at Neve Tzuf, said this was not the first time settlers assist Palestinians in distress.

"They know we have a skilled medical team here, and in any case of accident or injury they arrive and we help them," he said.

The paramedic noted that on the day of the Fogel massacre, settlers saw fireworks and celebrations in nearby Palestinian communities, but added that the local medical team is committed to assisting anyone in need.

"Two years ago, we also made sure to treat a terrorist who attempted to place a bomb on the road and was shot by soldiers," he said.

Palestinians from the nearby village of Nabi Salah gathered around the paramedics along with the new grandmother and could not hide their joy. "They thanked us and told us they named the girl Jude," Corporal Levin said.

They named her Jude... and in this complex place they did something good.

Remember Jude


Brilliant! Although you fail to acknowledge that Israel carries out good deeds like that as a matter of course, and this only made the news because of that particular time with the massacres by the Islamic Jihad towards the Fogel family a few weeks ago. Do you know that Israeli hospitals even treat Hamas terrorists who have been injured whilst doing their bombing missions. Personally I would finish them off - not treat them. Yes, Paldi, Israel every day several times a day help the Arabs. It doesn't make the news because no-one is interested - they only want to vilify, not admire, the Israeli Jews.
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Mar 27, 2011 9:10 AM CST uprising in syria
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
Wow_Factor: Brilliant! Do you know that Israeli hospitals even treat Hamas terrorists who have been injured whilst doing their bombing missions. Personally I would finish them off - not treat them. Yes, Paldi, Israel every day several times a day help the Arabs. It doesn't make the news because no-one is interested - they only want to vilify, not admire, the Israeli Jews.


In the news...



Coexistence in maternity ward


On the backdrop of the mounting tensions on the Gaza-Israel border, a Palestinian woman from the Gaza Strip and an Israeli resident of a Gaza vicinity kibbutz found themselves last week hospitalized in the same room at the Kaplan Medical Center's maternity ward.

The Palestinian woman, Naama Athoua of Jabaliya, was rushed to the Rehovot hospital last Sunday at the end of the ninth month of her pregnancy in a life-endangering situation.

Only week after Itamar massacre, championship game of American football league in Israel again brings together people from opposites sides of political spectrum - this time in celebration

Dr. Avi Metzkel, head of the hospital's high-risk pregnancy unit, explained that Naama arrived with a very low number of platelets, which could have led to a hemorrhage and put the life of the mother and fetus in danger.

"The patient was brought to Kaplan due to the fact that she was unable to receive proper care in the Strip at the end of her pregnancy," said Dr. Metzkel. "We began with aggressive treatment, and within two days the number of platelets reached normal values and she went into labor without causing the fetus any distress.

"The baby girl was born in a completely normal delivery, and at the moment the mother's condition is stable and she is receiving medication allowing her to breastfeed. Naama will soon be discharged back to Gaza, with instructions for continued treatment."

Athoua gave birth to her sixth daughter, Mina, and was hospitalized in Kaplan's maternity ward. Later in the week she was joined by Yael Frenkel of Kibbutz Sa'ad in the Gaza vicinity, who gave birth to her first daughter.

Several minutes after being transferred with her baby from the delivery room to the maternity ward, Frenkel discovered that her roommate was a neighbor from Gaza. "The kibbutz is really close to Gaza, and we have minimal contact with our neighbors from the Strip," she said.

"My husband serves as the kibbutz's security coordinator, and unfortunately some rockets have been fired into our community from the Gaza area in the past. The irony of faith is that while I was in the room with Naama Athoua, my husband's parents informed me that a rocket hit their home in Beersheba. Nonetheless, a baby is a baby, and I'm glad that the Kaplan medical staff managed to save the life of Naama and her baby girl."

"The reality outside the maternity ward had no effect on the good and relaxed atmosphere between the two women in the room. We nurses tried to provide a pleasant and homelike atmosphere," added nurse Larisa Kolash.
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Mar 27, 2011 9:10 AM CST uprising in syria
Paldi5: Off to work. It's a nice day in Mesopotamia.
idea Let's call it Paldistan!rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 27, 2011 9:19 AM CST uprising in syria
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
Paldi5: In the news...



Coexistence in maternity ward On the backdrop of the mounting tensions on the Gaza-Israel border, a Palestinian woman from the Gaza Strip and an Israeli resident of a Gaza vicinity kibbutz found themselves last week hospitalized in the same room at the Kaplan Medical Center's maternity ward.

The Palestinian woman, Naama Athoua of Jabaliya, was rushed to the Rehovot hospital last Sunday at the end of the ninth month of her pregnancy in a life-endangering situation.

Only week after Itamar massacre, championship game of American football league in Israel again brings together people from opposites sides of political spectrum - this time in celebration

Dr. Avi Metzkel, head of the hospital's high-risk pregnancy unit, explained that Naama arrived with a very low number of platelets, which could have led to a hemorrhage and put the life of the mother and fetus in danger.

"The patient was brought to Kaplan due to the fact that she was unable to receive proper care in the Strip at the end of her pregnancy," said Dr. Metzkel. "We began with aggressive treatment, and within two days the number of platelets reached normal values and she went into labor without causing the fetus any distress.

"The baby girl was born in a completely normal delivery, and at the moment the mother's condition is stable and she is receiving medication allowing her to breastfeed. Naama will soon be discharged back to Gaza, with instructions for continued treatment."

Athoua gave birth to her sixth daughter, Mina, and was hospitalized in Kaplan's maternity ward. Later in the week she was joined by Yael Frenkel of Kibbutz Sa'ad in the Gaza vicinity, who gave birth to her first daughter.

Several minutes after being transferred with her baby from the delivery room to the maternity ward, Frenkel discovered that her roommate was a neighbor from Gaza. "The kibbutz is really close to Gaza, and we have minimal contact with our neighbors from the Strip," she said.

"My husband serves as the kibbutz's security coordinator, and unfortunately some rockets have been fired into our community from the Gaza area in the past. The irony of faith is that while I was in the room with Naama Athoua, my husband's parents informed me that a rocket hit their home in Beersheba. Nonetheless, a baby is a baby, and I'm glad that the Kaplan medical staff managed to save the life of Naama and her baby girl."

"The reality outside the maternity ward had no effect on the good and relaxed atmosphere between the two women in the room. We nurses tried to provide a pleasant and homelike atmosphere," added nurse Larisa Kolash.


Again, it is nothing new. Loads of patients go from Gaza and Palestinian controlled West Bank into Israel for treatment. Doctors go into Israel proper for experience and training. Arab doctors work in the same hospitals in Israel as Israeli doctors. You think Paldi that the examples you have given are one-offs - they are not. There is much more than your limited and biased knowledge. This is nothing new. I posted videos in the video section on here of how Israel helps citizens of countries that are her enemies. There are loads.

Copy and paste the following into Google and read it up:

Israeli humanitarian aid Gaza West Bank

Also look at this website:



Then I know what will happen, you will turn it around to counteract these facts. Sorry but I am rather cynical as you can be contrary.
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Mar 27, 2011 9:42 AM CST uprising in syria
Colleene1024
Colleene1024Colleene1024West Warwick, Rhode Island USA10 Threads 1,225 Posts
Wow_Factor: Again, it is nothing new. Loads of patients go from Gaza and Palestinian controlled West Bank into Israel for treatment. Doctors go into Israel proper for experience and training. Arab doctors work in the same hospitals in Israel as Israeli doctors. You think Paldi that the examples you have given are one-offs - they are not. There is much more than your limited and biased knowledge. This is nothing new. I posted videos in the video section on here of how Israel helps citizens of countries that are her enemies. There are loads.

Copy and paste the following into Google and read it up:

Israeli humanitarian aid Gaza West Bank

Also look at this website:



Then I know what will happen, you will turn it around to counteract these facts. Sorry but I am rather cynical as you can be contrary.


Ummm, what was wrong with his post? confused I thought the story was very beautiful.
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Mar 27, 2011 9:51 AM CST uprising in syria
Colleene1024
Colleene1024Colleene1024West Warwick, Rhode Island USA10 Threads 1,225 Posts
Wow_Factor: Again, it is nothing new. Loads of patients go from Gaza and Palestinian controlled West Bank into Israel for treatment. Doctors go into Israel proper for experience and training. Arab doctors work in the same hospitals in Israel as Israeli doctors. You think Paldi that the examples you have given are one-offs - they are not. There is much more than your limited and biased knowledge. This is nothing new. I posted videos in the video section on here of how Israel helps citizens of countries that are her enemies. There are loads.

Copy and paste the following into Google and read it up:

Israeli humanitarian aid Gaza West Bank

Also look at this website:



Then I know what will happen, you will turn it around to counteract these facts. Sorry but I am rather cynical as you can be contrary.


From reading your link and Paldis' You both have valid opinions and views. One is no better then the others. You want him to see your side and he wants you to see his. It's only a matter of looking at the big picture. There are good people and bad people. It's just a metter of deciding wether to label these sides.


People are always puting labels on everything no matter what it is. Taliba, Al Quida, Gaza...They are all humans and all have different views. It's those whose views that harm people that are the problem in this world. wine

IMHO as always conversing
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Mar 27, 2011 10:21 AM CST uprising in syria
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
Colleene1024: From reading your link and Paldis' You both have valid opinions and views. One is no better then the others. You want him to see your side and he wants you to see his. It's only a matter of looking at the big picture. There are good people and bad people. It's just a metter of deciding wether to label these sides. People are always puting labels on everything no matter what it is. Taliba, Al Quida, Gaza...They are all humans and all have different views. It's those whose views that harm people that are the problem in this world.

IMHO as always
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