Just how bad is it?? (93)
ClearlyStated: They are called medical conditions because it is a treatable disorder. Bipolar or unipolar are both treatable with medication. There is no need for the world to see your misery - unless you can't help it - like the Tsumani/Earthquake in Japan.
I disagree. One's not wanting to see another in an emotional state tends to 'demonize' all emotions. I think one of the biggest issues that face humanity is the constant subjugation or forced internalization of emotion as if it's unnatural. This is what leads to disease and ostracizing of humanity because we are expecting humanity to be unnatural.
I think this notion that we should all be Spock and not show feelings is a killer. And the fact that you can't handle seeing/experiencing another's emotions is your issue, not theirs.
Medication in the majority of cases only hides or disguises the conditions you mention. The very fact that these things are labelled 'disorders' further proves my point that we are attempting to demonize conditions that don't fall within parameters that we are able or find ways to deal with. What is abnormal in my books is humans 'grouping' themselves and making themselves look normal at the expense of true normalcy... which would be to allow real emotion it's natural place in humanity, instead of medicating it or shunning it all the time.
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ClearlyStated: For you maybe!!!!
What are your credentials to be giving advice about treating mental illness??? Are you a licensed, educated, trained mental health professional(counselor, therapist, medical doctor, nurse, psychiatrist, psychologist)?
If not, maybe it's best if you leave the dispensing of medical advice and opinions those best qualified to answer these questions, because this is a sensitive topic for many people and you seem to be ruffing a lot of feathers here.
Not trying to tell you what to do--just making an observation here.
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ClearlyStated: First off I studied this disorder in depth and second of all - go choke on your morning coffee. What a miserable person you are. You shine my initial point well - MISERY LOVES COMPANY!!
You can tell me whatever you want and I refuse to feed into your miserable rotten statements attacking me.
You can tell me whatever you want and I refuse to feed into your miserable rotten statements attacking me.
Um, if you have studied this disorder in depth then i would assume you knew more about it?
And to be quite honest..this post of yours is screaming hypocrisy to the original OP?
Dont you think?
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lilmamma71: Unfortunately, many people dealing with mental illness still feel the sting of societal judgment, stigma and shame and to say they're not is naive-it's a fact of life.
It is common for someone with mental illness to feel misunderstood and as if the world is "against" them because others will judge and without properly understanding the condition a person has, many think it is something the person should just 'get over.'
However, anyone with any experience dealing with mental illness either on a personal level or through a friend or family member knows, medication is only a SMALL part of treating the condition, psychotherapy and other protocols are sometimes necessary.
It can take years to stabilize someone with mental illness and if the person does not respond to one medication, the regimen needs to be adjusted or changed entirely. It is not as simple as "oh take a pill and you'll feel better."
People dealing with a mental illness deserve compassion and understanding and shouldn't be treated with judging looks or disdain. Mental illness is a condition or disorder just like say asthma or diabetes, it requires proper treatment and while some are fortunate enough to find the therapies and medications that work---many are not so lucky.
People should not take mental illness lightly and nobody feels it more than the person suffering from it. It's hell on earth for someone caught up in the throes of depression, Schizophrenia or some other type of mental illness and nobody should just assume it's as simple as dealing with a mood swing or two..it's much more than that.
It is common for someone with mental illness to feel misunderstood and as if the world is "against" them because others will judge and without properly understanding the condition a person has, many think it is something the person should just 'get over.'
However, anyone with any experience dealing with mental illness either on a personal level or through a friend or family member knows, medication is only a SMALL part of treating the condition, psychotherapy and other protocols are sometimes necessary.
It can take years to stabilize someone with mental illness and if the person does not respond to one medication, the regimen needs to be adjusted or changed entirely. It is not as simple as "oh take a pill and you'll feel better."
People dealing with a mental illness deserve compassion and understanding and shouldn't be treated with judging looks or disdain. Mental illness is a condition or disorder just like say asthma or diabetes, it requires proper treatment and while some are fortunate enough to find the therapies and medications that work---many are not so lucky.
People should not take mental illness lightly and nobody feels it more than the person suffering from it. It's hell on earth for someone caught up in the throes of depression, Schizophrenia or some other type of mental illness and nobody should just assume it's as simple as dealing with a mood swing or two..it's much more than that.
Amen to you girl......I know I lived with someone with such disorder - bipolar - it wasn't pretty and you are correct - this is bigger than just medication - it is a matter of proper process to help this individual with their disorder. My initial post was not veered towards anyone with a "mental disorder" per se.......it was veered towards people who are just plain and simply miserable and want the world to know it and don't care.
Thank you for the information and the knowledge gained from this - I did study this disorder in depth and know just how difficult it is to fit in the world around them.
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ClearlyStated: Medication - if given the proper dose and taken regularly as it should will alleviate the misery and deep tension within. Hence make the life of the person a better place to reside and make the people around that person less tense.
Having worked with people who suffer with Bipolar I can categorically state your talking thru your behind.
The brain is an extremely complex organ, and while there have been huge advances in treatments and medication, the mix of meds needed in a lot of cases, is very complex and only treat and not cure. Also peoples bodies change, and accordingly the meds have to change. There is also the human factor involved and a lot of doctors/psychologists will disagree on what is the correct treatment needed for a specific individual. Sometimes its a constant battle for people to get the mix right and while there is a lot of help and understanding out there now, it doesn't always work for people.
There are also people out there who lack understanding, tolerance and compassion
I wish there were meds for that.I wish the world were as black and white as you see it.
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ClearlyStated: Medication - if given the proper dose and taken regularly as it should will alleviate the misery and deep tension within. Hence make the life of the person a better place to reside and make the people around that person less tense.
Why are the people around them tense? Their own unresolved issues?
Someone said it best here. Shaming people about their emotions is exactly what drives emotions into deep seated positions that then need treatment. It's unnatural and frankly a preposterous way of dealing with yours or another's emotions.
Sympathy, empathy, apathy . Take your choice; but don't impose your will on others in expectation that they stop emoting just because you can't reason your own natural sense of sympathy, empathy or apathy.
I am of course using 'you' in an editorial sense.
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lilmamma71: What are your credentials to be giving advice about treating mental illness??? Are you a licensed, educated, trained mental health professional(counselor, therapist, medical doctor, nurse, psychiatrist, psychologist)?
If not, maybe it's best if you leave the dispensing of medical advice and opinions those best qualified to answer these questions, because this is a sensitive topic for many people and you seem to be ruffing a lot of feathers here.
Not trying to tell you what to do--just making an observation here.
If not, maybe it's best if you leave the dispensing of medical advice and opinions those best qualified to answer these questions, because this is a sensitive topic for many people and you seem to be ruffing a lot of feathers here.
Not trying to tell you what to do--just making an observation here.
Again - my initial post was not veered towards "mentally ill" individuals - it was veered towards miserable people per se. Because this world is filled with just rotten people who are out to ensure everyone around them know it.
I do not have any credentials but I do have 3 years of university - working on my degree.
Ruffling feathers? I attempt to explain my statements and hope that even if people do not agree - they will note it and stick to the point of the issue - but sadly enough - a few seems to like the personal attacks on me. Which I am handling!!
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ClearlyStated: First off I studied this disorder in depth and second of all - go choke on your morning coffee. What a miserable person you are. You shine my initial point well - MISERY LOVES COMPANY!!
You can tell me whatever you want and I refuse to feed into your miserable rotten statements attacking me.
You can tell me whatever you want and I refuse to feed into your miserable rotten statements attacking me.
I'm not the person coming out with all this vitriol about things I have no understanding of........
I'm out of here too. These threads are so full of it, putting people down, it's not funny.
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ClearlyStated: Medication - if given the proper dose and taken regularly as it should will alleviate the misery and deep tension within. Hence make the life of the person a better place to reside and make the people around that person less tense.
Wrong, wrong and may I add...WRONG. This type of thinking sets people with mental health issues back decades!!! Ooooo...I am sooooo mad!! 
K..deep breathe...medication is designed to alleviate SOME of the more severe symptoms which in turn help the individual cope and deal with the minor symptoms with support. There is no magic pill that makes it all go away, these individuals struggle every day even when on medication, so if they have a bad day, so be it. Be empathetic not scornful. 
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vinny1967: Having worked with people who suffer with Bipolar I can categorically state your talking thru your behind.
The brain is an extremely complex organ, and while there have been huge advances in treatments and medication, the mix of meds needed in a lot of cases, is very complex and only treat and not cure. Also peoples bodies change, and accordingly the meds have to change. There is also the human factor involved and a lot of doctors/psychologists will disagree on what is the correct treatment needed for a specific individual. Sometimes its a constant battle for people to get the mix right and while there is a lot of help and understanding out there now, it doesn't always work for people.
There are also people out there who lack understanding, tolerance and compassion I wish there were meds for that.
I wish the world were as black and white as you see it.
The brain is an extremely complex organ, and while there have been huge advances in treatments and medication, the mix of meds needed in a lot of cases, is very complex and only treat and not cure. Also peoples bodies change, and accordingly the meds have to change. There is also the human factor involved and a lot of doctors/psychologists will disagree on what is the correct treatment needed for a specific individual. Sometimes its a constant battle for people to get the mix right and while there is a lot of help and understanding out there now, it doesn't always work for people.
There are also people out there who lack understanding, tolerance and compassion I wish there were meds for that.
I wish the world were as black and white as you see it.
Thank you for your comment and once again - I will state that my initial post was not veered towards disorders - it was veered towards plain and simple rotten people.
I am aware of the complications and med doses and therapeutic issues with many disorders. We have turned this into a disorder post, which was not the intent of my statement.
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Why do some people want /try to play doctor and 2nd guess someones situation?
It puzzles the heck of me.
It puzzles the heck of me.
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nanners2863: Wrong, wrong and may I add...WRONG. This type of thinking sets people with mental health issues back decades!!! Ooooo...I am sooooo mad!! K..deep breathe...medication is designed to alleviate SOME of the more severe symptoms which in turn help the individual cope and deal with the minor symptoms with support. There is no magic pill that makes it all go away, these individuals struggle every day even when on medication, so if they have a bad day, so be it. Be empathetic not scornful.
You said it better than me
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We're human beings not robots. With this being said, emotions come with the package. It's not up to us to dictate how an individual behaves but how we react is crucial. 
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Amity: You said it better than me
I don't care what her original post was designed for..this comment was way over the line. If a person has limited information then they should not make comments at all. oh and
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nanners2863: We're human beings not robots. With this being said, emotions come with the package. It's not up to us to dictate how an individual behaves but how we react is crucial.
be seeing you
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nanners2863: I don't care what her original post was designed for..this comment was way over the line. If a person has limited information then they should not make comments at all.
oh and btw Am
oh and btw Am
Oh i totally agree, which was why i commented when she answered Jeeps with the meds thing..
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chococherrie: be seeing you
be seeing you 
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nanners2863: be seeing you
i do miss him,i want to be seen by himbe seeing you x1000
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ClearlyStated: No one is shaming you for being schizophrenic - it is a disorder that is treatable and will allow you to alleviate the suffering within yourself. If you feel like the world is against you because of your disorder - you are incorrect. I'm not telling you to hide it - I'm telling you to face it and work with it.
Well I'm sorry to break up the fight ( it was an average one for a Friday ), but the guy was just pulling your leg . . . . . . . .. . .. . . . .. . . . . . . . . . some of us do that here . All in fun and no bad feelings intended . . . . . . . .. . .. .. . . . .. here's a hug for at least trying to care for us . . . . . .
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It is common for someone with mental illness to feel misunderstood and as if the world is "against" them because others will judge and without properly understanding the condition a person has, many think it is something the person should just 'get over.'
However, anyone with any experience dealing with mental illness either on a personal level or through a friend or family member knows, medication is only a SMALL part of treating the condition, psychotherapy and other protocols are sometimes necessary.
It can take years to stabilize someone with mental illness and if the person does not respond to one medication, the regimen needs to be adjusted or changed entirely. It is not as simple as "oh take a pill and you'll feel better."
People dealing with a mental illness deserve compassion and understanding and shouldn't be treated with judging looks or disdain. Mental illness is a condition or disorder just like say asthma or diabetes, it requires proper treatment and while some are fortunate enough to find the therapies and medications that work---many are not so lucky.
People should not take mental illness lightly and nobody feels it more than the person suffering from it. It's hell on earth for someone caught up in the throes of depression, Schizophrenia or some other type of mental illness and nobody should just assume it's as simple as dealing with a mood swing or two..it's much more than that.