Unexplained mysteries (39)

Apr 13, 2011 4:41 PM CST Unexplained mysteries
RockinRisky
RockinRiskyRockinRiskydublin, Dublin Ireland57 Threads 238 Posts
I came across this site and found it very interesting

Apr 13, 2011 5:21 PM CST Unexplained mysteries
biggles90000
biggles90000biggles90000kilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland154 Threads 17 Polls 4,582 Posts
I think the biggest mystery that prob will never be solved would be the Jack The Ripper.
Apr 13, 2011 5:27 PM CST Unexplained mysteries
tallman51
tallman51tallman51Limerick, Ireland9 Threads 1 Polls 3,327 Posts
The biggest mystery to me is how some people still believe that man landed on the moon 6 times during the Nixon administration !!

The technology to land on the moon isn't even there NOW !!

Nasa have an probe orbitting the moon since July 2009 and have collected data about the extreme radiation and temperatures on the moons surface. They are planning a moon landing in 2018.

It looks like Japan might just beat them to it.

That would be such an embarressment !!

confused
Apr 13, 2011 5:35 PM CST Unexplained mysteries
CarterK
CarterKCarterKDublin, Ireland2 Threads 30 Posts
RockinRisky: I came across this site and found it very interesting




Eh Hello, two words ....



FIg rolls !!



Explain how they do that ??

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Apr 13, 2011 5:35 PM CST Unexplained mysteries
biggles90000
biggles90000biggles90000kilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland154 Threads 17 Polls 4,582 Posts
Theory on the moon landings

Apr 13, 2011 5:55 PM CST Unexplained mysteries
tallman51
tallman51tallman51Limerick, Ireland9 Threads 1 Polls 3,327 Posts
The spacestation and major sattalites are between 200 and 300 miles above the earths surface.
The deadly Van Allen radiation belt start at 1000 miles above the earth. If humans had tried to pass through that back in the 60's/70's they would have either died or have suffered from it's effects.

Another think I find strange is why all of the 18 astronauts who went to the moon refused to swear on the bible when asked to do so !!
Buzz Aldrin actually punched the interviewer in the face.
He was convicted of assault.

confused


cool
Apr 14, 2011 11:52 AM CST Unexplained mysteries
offsetpaddy
offsetpaddyoffsetpaddyDublin, Ireland1 Threads 37 Posts
If the states didn't put a man on the moon, then why did the russians never say anything? I mean they started the whole space race in 1961 by putting a man in space and the americans in a tisy decided they'll go one better and put a man on the moon. I don't buy into conspiracy theories as anything can be manipulated to look a certain way. Sure look at the media they do it for a living....
Apr 14, 2011 12:13 PM CST Unexplained mysteries
cremebrulee
cremebruleecremebruleeMeath, Ireland3 Threads 1,124 Posts
I always wondered who was holding the camera?? How were the photos of the first moon landing taken?? dunno
Apr 14, 2011 12:13 PM CST Unexplained mysteries
MarsMan
MarsManMarsManBobbing along, Cork Ireland29 Threads 8 Polls 981 Posts
Oh not this again frustrated

THEY DID LAND ON THE MOON.....deal with it!!!!

I always find amazing how people will believe total absurd and thoroughly discredited hoax theories rather than anything resembling the truth.

If I had gone all the way to the moon, survived all the inherent dangers of space travel, and had some loser question me as to whether I had really done so, I would have given them a lot more than a smack in the face.
very mad
Apr 14, 2011 12:29 PM CST Unexplained mysteries
tallman51
tallman51tallman51Limerick, Ireland9 Threads 1 Polls 3,327 Posts
offsetpaddy: If the states didn't put a man on the moon, then why did the russians never say anything? I mean they started the whole space race in 1961 by putting a man in space and the americans in a tisy decided they'll go one better and put a man on the moon. I don't buy into conspiracy theories as anything can be manipulated to look a certain way. Sure look at the media they do it for a living....

The Russians have said lots of things over the years and don't forget that they are the main party using the spacestation.
The americans are still learning things from the Russians.
It's in Russias favour to say nothing about these things.

I am not a conspiricy theoist but a retired airline pilot who knows a lot about all things Avviation including the so called space race !

wave
Apr 14, 2011 12:32 PM CST Unexplained mysteries
tallman51
tallman51tallman51Limerick, Ireland9 Threads 1 Polls 3,327 Posts
MarsMan: Oh not this again

THEY DID LAND ON THE MOON.....deal with it!!!!

I always find amazing how people will believe total absurd and thoroughly discredited hoax theories rather than anything resembling the truth.

If I had gone all the way to the moon, survived all the inherent dangers of space travel, and had some loser question me as to whether I had really done so, I would have given them a lot more than a smack in the face.

You are the one who needs to " Get over it "

Over 20% of americans don't believe in Nasa's lies.
Bill Clinton in his autobiography even says that HE never believed it. Those landinds could not have happened.
The aviation experts have proven that many times.

I suggest you brush up on the facts !!

wave
Apr 14, 2011 12:35 PM CST Unexplained mysteries
JohnnyT
JohnnyTJohnnyTDublin, Ireland20 Threads 3 Polls 565 Posts
tallman51: The spacestation and major sattalites are between 200 and 300 miles above the earths surface.
The deadly Van Allen radiation belt start at 1000 miles above the earth. If humans had tried to pass through that back in the 60's/70's they would have either died or have suffered from it's effects.


laugh Ah come on now

They would have spent about 7 hours in the van allen belt (it starts at about 8,000 miles above the earths surface btw).

1 hour in the van allen belt is about the same dose of radiation as an x-ray.

All in all I don't think they'd be any worse off than someone that has had 10 to 15 x-rays in their life.

Oh, I worked those figures out without any shielding. Whatever type of shielding they did have would have significantly reduced the radiation dosage. Shielding does not have to be advanced technology. Lead is the most commonly used but any metal will block out an amount of radiation.
Apr 14, 2011 12:36 PM CST Unexplained mysteries
offsetpaddy
offsetpaddyoffsetpaddyDublin, Ireland1 Threads 37 Posts
tallman51: The Russians have said lots of things over the years and don't forget that they are the main party using the spacestation.
The americans are still learning things from the Russians.
It's in Russias favour to say nothing about these things.

I am not a conspiricy theoist but a retired airline pilot who knows a lot about all things Avviation including the so called space race !


Ain't getting into no arguement about something that neither of us can verify. I don't doubt they went there, To many people involved in a lie that big for it not to have come out. However some of the pictures i've have seen are suspect. I'm no expert in photography my area of expertise lies in phyisics but the light sources on alot of pictures are very very dodgey even after you take into account the reflectivity of the moon (5-7%) and earth as another light source.

One thing that was never explained to me by people who think the moon landing were faked was the fact that the planted mirrors to enable us to measure the moon's distance to the earth and tidal power etc. How did they get there?
Apr 14, 2011 12:40 PM CST Unexplained mysteries
tallman51
tallman51tallman51Limerick, Ireland9 Threads 1 Polls 3,327 Posts
offsetpaddy: Ain't getting into no arguement about something that neither of us can verify. I don't doubt they went there, To many people involved in a lie that big for it not to have come out. However some of the pictures i've have seen are suspect. I'm no expert in photography my area of expertise lies in phyisics but the light sources on alot of pictures are very very dodgey even after you take into account the reflectivity of the moon (5-7%) and earth as another light source.

One thing that was never explained to me by people who think the moon landing were faked was the fact that the planted mirrors to enable us to measure the moon's distance to the earth and tidal power etc. How did they get there?

Lots of probes have been successfully landed on the moon. The Russians landed a probe on the moon in 1957 !!
The Japanese had one up ther from 2008 to last year.
Apr 14, 2011 12:45 PM CST Unexplained mysteries
tallman51
tallman51tallman51Limerick, Ireland9 Threads 1 Polls 3,327 Posts
JohnnyT: Ah come on now

They would have spent about 7 hours in the van allen belt (it starts at about 8,000 miles above the earths surface btw).

1 hour in the van allen belt is about the same dose of radiation as an x-ray.

All in all I don't think they'd be any worse off than someone that has had 10 to 15 x-rays in their life.

Oh, I worked those figures out without any shielding. Whatever type of shielding they did have would have significantly reduced the radiation dosage. Shielding does not have to be advanced technology. Lead is the most commonly used but any metal will block out an amount of radiation.

Van Allen himself said that about 3 inches of lead would be maybe safe !
Astronauts on the spacestation have suffered from radiation particles and they are nearly 700 miles below the belts.
The Japanese lunar probe in 2008 agrees with the 3 inches of lead theory. The radition on the moons suface would be far more deadly than the van allen belt.

wave
Apr 14, 2011 12:48 PM CST Unexplained mysteries
tallman51
tallman51tallman51Limerick, Ireland9 Threads 1 Polls 3,327 Posts
JohnnyT: Ah come on now

They would have spent about 7 hours in the van allen belt (it starts at about 8,000 miles above the earths surface btw).

1 hour in the van allen belt is about the same dose of radiation as an x-ray.All in all I don't think they'd be any worse off than someone that has had 10 to 15 x-rays in their life.

Oh, I worked those figures out without any shielding. Whatever type of shielding they did have would have significantly reduced the radiation dosage. Shielding does not have to be advanced technology. Lead is the most commonly used but any metal will block out an amount of radiation.

You have put the finger on it with that statement !
Think about all the shielding used in just a chest x-ray !!
You won't find the x-ray technician in the same room as you !!
Thay know better.

doh
Apr 14, 2011 1:46 PM CST Unexplained mysteries
biggles90000
biggles90000biggles90000kilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland154 Threads 17 Polls 4,582 Posts
Just some fact about the moon landing

1.No Plans for return trips

2.Images show that Stars were missing from the black lunar sky

3.Absence of engine noise in official NASA footage - how was it possible to clearly hear the voices of the Astronauts?

4.No Blast Crater under the LEM after the powerful engines had been fired

5.Astronauts Footprints - How was it possible for footprints to be left undisturbed and without dust

6.American Flag was waving - how is this possible when there is no air on the moon

7.Pictures of the ascent of the LEM - images appear to show that the LEM was jerked up, as if by a cable, there was no evidence of an exhaust plume

8.Grainy, Unclear images although technology at the time could have produced much clearer images - Did NASA intentionally make the images hard to see?

9.Still Photographs - Cameras were fitted to the Astronauts chest - there was no view finder and photographs could only be taken by movement of the body but 1000's of flawless photographs were taken

10.Crosshairs on Still Photographs - The crosshairs on the photographs could only be on the top of images but pictures of the Astronauts and the Flag clearly show that the crosshairs were partially obscured, beneath the images

11.Shadows - The only source of light on the moon was the Sun but shadows were cast in multiple directions

12.Lighting - Images of Astronauts were brightly lighted although their positions would have clearly been in shadow. Some images indicate that the Astronauts appeared to be in spotlight

13.Backgrounds - the backdrops or the moonscape of some images appear to be identical although NASA stated that the images were taken at different times and locations which were over 2 miles apart

14.The Van Allen Radiation Belt - Could the Astronauts survive travelling through the deadly radiation belt which is situated 500 miles above the earth and is 1000's of miles thick with only the protection from their space suits and the thin covering of the space ship when it is estimated that 6 feet of lead would be necessary would have been needed. None of the Astronauts have since showed any signs of radiation poisoning

15.No other manned mission has gone through the Belt

16.Silencing - It seems unreasonable that information would not have been leaked about any such hoax - theorists therefore believe that key witnesses, including members of the Astronaut Corps, were deliberately silenced. Between 1964 and 1967 10 astronauts died in accidents - 15% of the corps.

The moon landing was a hoax to beat the Russian to it first.
Apr 14, 2011 1:51 PM CST Unexplained mysteries
blarneykite
blarneykiteblarneykiteSomewhere, Carlow Ireland31 Threads 3,901 Posts
biggles90000: Just some fact about the moon landing

1.No Plans for return trips

2.Images show that Stars were missing from the black lunar sky

3.Absence of engine noise in official NASA footage - how was it possible to clearly hear the voices of the Astronauts?

4.No Blast Crater under the LEM after the powerful engines had been fired

5.Astronauts Footprints - How was it possible for footprints to be left undisturbed and without dust

6.American Flag was waving - how is this possible when there is no air on the moon

7.Pictures of the ascent of the LEM - images appear to show that the LEM was jerked up, as if by a cable, there was no evidence of an exhaust plume

8.Grainy, Unclear images although technology at the time could have produced much clearer images - Did NASA intentionally make the images hard to see?

9.Still Photographs - Cameras were fitted to the Astronauts chest - there was no view finder and photographs could only be taken by movement of the body but 1000's of flawless photographs were taken

10.Crosshairs on Still Photographs - The crosshairs on the photographs could only be on the top of images but pictures of the Astronauts and the Flag clearly show that the crosshairs were partially obscured, beneath the images

11.Shadows - The only source of light on the moon was the Sun but shadows were cast in multiple directions

12.Lighting - Images of Astronauts were brightly lighted although their positions would have clearly been in shadow. Some images indicate that the Astronauts appeared to be in spotlight

13.Backgrounds - the backdrops or the moonscape of some images appear to be identical although NASA stated that the images were taken at different times and locations which were over 2 miles apart

14.The Van Allen Radiation Belt - Could the Astronauts survive travelling through the deadly radiation belt which is situated 500 miles above the earth and is 1000's of miles thick with only the protection from their space suits and the thin covering of the space ship when it is estimated that 6 feet of lead would be necessary would have been needed. None of the Astronauts have since showed any signs of radiation poisoning

15.No other manned mission has gone through the Belt

16.Silencing - It seems unreasonable that information would not have been leaked about any such hoax - theorists therefore believe that key witnesses, including members of the Astronaut Corps, were deliberately silenced. Between 1964 and 1967 10 astronauts died in accidents - 15% of the corps.

The moon landing was a hoax to beat the Russian to it first.


Mythbusters on Discovery did an entire programme on the landings and many of the points raised above. They disproved all the Hoax claims including the flag in a vacume chamber, the backlighting of the Astronaut, footprints. It's a great watch if you can find it online
Apr 14, 2011 2:17 PM CST Unexplained mysteries
MarsMan
MarsManMarsManBobbing along, Cork Ireland29 Threads 8 Polls 981 Posts
tallman51: Do you know Anything about the Apollo Project ?
and I mean ANYTHING ???

It seems that You rae the only Idiot on here !!


Really?!?!?

So the fact that I have studied the Apollo missions as part of a science project, rather than look up a load of silly opinions of conspiracy theorists who believe any old nonsense rather than actually go educate themselves, cos that might be a little too difficult?

Well if that is knowing nothing, and being an idiot, then I am happy to live in ignorance!
Apr 14, 2011 2:19 PM CST Unexplained mysteries
tallman51
tallman51tallman51Limerick, Ireland9 Threads 1 Polls 3,327 Posts
MarsMan: Really?!?!?

So the fact that I have studied the Apollo missions as part of a science project, rather than look up a load of silly opinions of conspiracy theorists who believe any old nonsense rather than actually go educate themselves, cos that might be a little too difficult?

Well if that is knowing nothing, and being an idiot, then I am happy to live in ignorance!

I thought you lived in Cork !

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