I have credits from a community college and credits from a university and from a vocatonal school... add all those credits earned together I have enough for an degree = some however one institution does not accept the others teaching and credits as valid. Is it better for society that is is common practice or is it strictly about the benjamins $$$$. Why ? why ? why?
It's definitely all about the Benjamins $$$$ no doubt about it. Everyone knows that, especially college professors.
I attended 4 different colleges at 4 different times in my life. I got all that crap about not accepting so many credits because they don’t like the previous school, or simply because too much time had gone by. What? Too much time went by? What kind of hogwash is that? Credits lose value over time, but once you get a degree it's forever? What idiot made up that rule?
I attended 4 different colleges (3 to 4 years each), 2 technical schools, and various educational programs through companies where I had worked. I did all that as a student. In addition to that I taught classes in three different schools including two colleges. I've spent the bulk of my life in college classroom either as a student or a teacher, yet I have no degree at all. They accepted me as a teacher based on my professional experience in research and development. I taught mainly mathematics, electronics, computer programming, and physics, I even actually taught English once which was a joke. I'll never do that again! I did all that without any degree whatsoever save for a GED since I never even finished high school!
I'm quite capable of conversing with anyone who has a PhD in math, physics, or computer science. In fact, I'll be glad to converse with any PhD in any field. I may not know the specifics of their field, but I can sure as hell understand what they are talking about unless they purposely resort to using vague jargon and absurd abstractions in an attempt to be a snob about it.
When I talk with people I won't hesitate to make an honest effort to explain things in the most fundamental way possible to bring it within the reach of laymen vocabulary, because it's not the fancy terms that are important, but rather the substance of the ideas. People who claim that they can't bring it down to a layman's level usually don’t know what they are talking about and just use that as an excuse to hide their real ignorance. And when they actually behave that way toward their students they are basically cheating the students out of the very thing the students are seeking - an education!
Yes, educational institutions are not about education. They are about $$$$$ and paying the price of rules and regulations. It's a real shame that they aren't about education. It's no wonder we're seeing a "dumbing down of America".
So I agree with you 100%, educational formalism sucks. I love the idea of education, but I loathe the way that educational institutions are run. It's all about competition, rules, and paying dues to a social establishment. It's not about education.
When people ask me my level of education, I seriously want to say "PhD". Because I sincerely believe that this is indeed my level of education. Now if they ask me what my credentials are, I guess I'd have to say, "Kindergarten diploma", because that's the only official diploma that I actually hold. But is that really my level of education? Which is more of a lie?
If you ask me my level of education I'll say "PhD".
If you ask me what my credentials are I'll just toss up my hands and say, "What you see is what you get"
On job applications where it asks "level of education" I always wrote down down "PhD". Seriously I did, because that's what the question asked. It didn't ask what my credentials are. No one as ever asked me to actually produce the official documented degree. And now I'm retired. So I've already won the rat race! It's all water over the damn now.
My appologies to anyone out there with an actual degree who may have lost a job to me somewhere along the way.
On job applications where it asks "level of education" I always wrote down down "PhD". Seriously I did, because that's what the question asked. It didn't ask what my credentials are. No one as ever asked me to actually produce the official documented degree
Definately about the Benjamins for the most part. I consider myself a KDO=Kindergarten Drop Out. I tried, anyways, but my dad marched me right back up the first day of school after I tried to drop and basically said you are going to school, buddy. I rebelled from the very first day. I received 9 credit hours from Basic Training through Fort Leonard Wood Training School. The equivalency was given from Drury College in Missouri. Then I received 36 college credit hours from Wichita State University in Wichita, Kansas. I got what they call the core requirements out of the way. I had a good Creative Writing teacher there. Her idea was for the student to actually leanr something. You just rewrote it until paper quit dripping with blood or her red pen with all your mistakes showing. I learned the value of a good editor. Then I went after a commercial driver's license which gave me another 9 credit hours from Twin Lakes Votech in Harrison, Arkansas. I still didn't know what I wanted to be when I grew up, lol. So I took a two year course through the National Radio Institute which is accredited through Washington State University. It taught me about radio and basic computers. Then I passed thirteen certificates in maintenance. I really got interested in computers then and took four years of college for two associate degrees in computer repair and networking. I am now taking training to learn how to be a nurse. I now know that I want to become a professional student, lol. I have always enjoyed learning about stuff.
i'm sure it's also about schools not wanting to bestow degrees upon people that earned them at other institutions. my university, for example, will only allow transfer credits up to half of the degree.
they don't want you going to some community college...and then transferring right before degree time...and then calling yourself a graduate of THEM...being inadequately prepared for the world. bad advertisement, i'm sure.
Some classes will transfer. English 101 and 102 and Speech transferred for me but just barely to Beckfield College in Florence, Kentucky from Wichita State. I wish colleges would put as much effort in teaching towards helping a student find a job. What irks me is like colleges are like what the military used to be like. They would promise you anything until you signed the dotted line for enlistment. The military has a guaranteed enlistment. You know you will have a job after the training. I think colleges should have to be the same way. It makes the college appear like a scam. I have heard many students with this complaint.
there are technical schools for getting a job...and streamlined ones, as well.
but a university...is supposed to educate the 'whole' person...to give you MORE than just enough for a job. to stimulate your brain...so you can converse at the water-cooler on art, theater, literature...and the goings on in the world.
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Is it better for society that is is common practice or is it strictly about the benjamins $$$$.
Why ? why ? why?