I know and I heard many women saying they don't want and need a man in their lives.To me that is like saying you don't need air in order to breathe.So of course,I asked for explanations.They say,well I'm very independent,I can do everything on my own(great job,financial stability,take care of the house)and besides I don't want to have to clean or cook for anyone.But what about love?I guess in the self absorbed,narcissistic world we live in,we can do very well without love from others...as we love ourselves to idolatry.But what about companionship?What about the need to give,if not receive,affection?.
I love men,I can't even imagine how my life would have been without them.I love men that behave like men"both strong and childish".I think they give us,women a sense of purpose,a sort of ecstatic delight in which we indulge guiltlessly.They are basic creatures,which is not to say they lack complexity,but it's more of a leveled stratification of insights and accomplishments.I love men because I hardly ever understand anything about them in relation to me and/or other women.And I love men because their annoying masculinity makes me happy I'm a woman.
And as for myself,I've always needed a man in my life.He doesn't have to be perfect because I'm not perfect.I need someone to shake me when I' m being too much of a woman .When I'm too emotional to see clearly or when I'm lost and scared.Maybe I'm old fashioned but I have discovered with astonishment that, a man's heart is like an unforgettable poem "I'm in love with your soul and I'm deeply grateful to you " I love men because their analytical insights just help me focus on my delicate touches of feminity.I also don't need to patronize men,or people in general to fulfill a wrinkled sense of identity.
I don't know and I'm not here to either judge or claim but I feel it's important to raise the questions to encourange introspection
MvdakkerDen Haag, South Holland Netherlands13 posts
Well I agree that life was made for man and woman together..But what could a woman do when she meets an a**hole and another and another?? when someone puts u down? will u simply again run after man and say I can't live without man or just go on and build up ur life in a safe way to guard ur feelings from being hurt, ur heart from being broken??
yes importance of having a man around is high and I feel like u BUT sometimes wind blows in a totally diff direction!! pity! M
Carinas: I know and I heard many women saying they don't want and need a man in their lives.To me that is like saying you don't need air in order to breathe.So of course,I asked for explanations.They say,well I'm very independent,I can do everything on my own(great job,financial stability,take care of the house)and besides I don't want to have to clean or cook for anyone.But what about love?I guess in the self absorbed,narcissistic world we live in,we can do very well without love from others...as we love ourselves to idolatry.But what about companionship?What about the need to give,if not receive,affection?.
I love men,I can't even imagine how my life would have been without them.I love men that behave like men"both strong and childish".I think they give us,women a sense of purpose,a sort of ecstatic delight in which we indulge guiltlessly.They are basic creatures,which is not to say they lack complexity,but it's more of a leveled stratification of insights and accomplishments.I love men because I hardly ever understand anything about them in relation to me and/or other women.And I love men because their annoying masculinity makes me happy I'm a woman.
And as for myself,I've always needed a man in my life.He doesn't have to be perfect because I'm not perfect.I need someone to shake me when I' m being too much of a woman .When I'm too emotional to see clearly or when I'm lost and scared.Maybe I'm old fashioned but I have discovered with astonishment that, a man's heart is like an unforgettable poem "I'm in love with your soul and I'm deeply grateful to you " I love men because their analytical insights just help me focus on my delicate touches of feminity.I also don't need to patronize men,or people in general to fulfill a wrinkled sense of identity.
I don't know and I'm not here to either judge or claim but I feel it's important to raise the questions to encourange introspection
MvdakkerDen Haag, South Holland Netherlands13 posts
I believe all women who say THEY would rather be alone and go on independently were all hurt or just met a**hole to make them learn their lessons very well!! M
Mvdakker: Well I agree that life was made for man and woman together..But what could a woman do when she meets an a**hole and another and another?? when someone puts u down? will u simply again run after man and say I can't live without man or just go on and build up ur life in a safe way to guard ur feelings from being hurt, ur heart from being broken??
yes importance of having a man around is high and I feel like u BUT sometimes wind blows in a totally diff direction!! pity! M
It has nothing to do with selfishness. I devoted my entire life to kids, husbands, lovers. I made a concience decision to take some of my life and learn who I was. I learned to live alone. I am single by choice not for lack of offers. It has to do with self discovery and freedom not selfishness. Ive learned to be smart about what I want in a partner and I will never settle for less again. I also set an example for my girls to learn to be independant and strong and self reliant. I think that to be as needy as you are is unbalanced and unhealthy. If I was a man I would run for the hills quite frankly. O and last time I checked? I was able to breathe just fine.
Carinas: I know and I heard many women saying they don't want and need a man in their lives.To me that is like saying you don't need air in order to breathe.So of course,I asked for explanations.They say,well I'm very independent,I can do everything on my own(great job,financial stability,take care of the house)and besides I don't want to have to clean or cook for anyone.But what about love?I guess in the self absorbed,narcissistic world we live in,we can do very well without love from others...as we love ourselves to idolatry.But what about companionship?What about the need to give,if not receive,affection?.
I love men,I can't even imagine how my life would have been without them.I love men that behave like men"both strong and childish".I think they give us,women a sense of purpose,a sort of ecstatic delight in which we indulge guiltlessly.They are basic creatures,which is not to say they lack complexity,but it's more of a leveled stratification of insights and accomplishments.I love men because I hardly ever understand anything about them in relation to me and/or other women.And I love men because their annoying masculinity makes me happy I'm a woman.
And as for myself,I've always needed a man in my life.He doesn't have to be perfect because I'm not perfect.I need someone to shake me when I' m being too much of a woman .When I'm too emotional to see clearly or when I'm lost and scared.Maybe I'm old fashioned but I have discovered with astonishment that, a man's heart is like an unforgettable poem "I'm in love with your soul and I'm deeply grateful to you " I love men because their analytical insights just help me focus on my delicate touches of feminity.I also don't need to patronize men,or people in general to fulfill a wrinkled sense of identity.
I don't know and I'm not here to either judge or claim but I feel it's important to raise the questions to encourange introspection
I understand your post and agree with it to a point. The use of the word "need" is not something I agree with. It's good to be needed but not because of your gender.
I thought like you do when I was your age and always wanted a man in my life because I thought that was the way it was supposed to be. Living without a man means the absence of compassion, sincerity and affection. Just to have a male presence around doesn't interest me.
I like men more than I can explain here and if I was to look for a partner again it would be because I wanted him to enhance what my life, not just because he is a man...
SummerUKWashington UK, Tyne and Wear, England UK8,842 posts
venusenvy: It has nothing to do with selfishness. I devoted my entire life to kids, husbands, lovers. I made a concience decision to take some of my life and learn who I was. I learned to live alone. I am single by choice not for lack of offers. It has to do with self discovery and freedom not selfishness. Ive learned to be smart about what I want in a partner and I will never settle for less again. I also set an example for my girls to learn to be independant and strong and self reliant. I think that to be as needy as you are is unbalanced and unhealthy. If I was a man I would run for the hills quite frankly. O and last time I checked? I was able to breathe just fine.
Blimey V I could have written that myself ABOUT myself and my life word for word but you said it beautifully
Unfortunately (at times), being a giver is part of my core programming. Always has been. I've spent my life giving to and doing for others with no thought to my own wants and needs. I've been told recently that I need to be a bit more selfish and start thinking about me once in a while. I find doing that very difficult. Every time I think about doing something just for me, I actually feel guilty. It just seems so mean and selfish to think only of myself, no matter how insignificant the situation.
Lately I've been trying to figure out if an adult can learn to be more selfish. I know children learn to be selfish when they're young and it carries over into adulthood, but can an adult really learn something like that?
bestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK4,701 posts
venusenvy: It has nothing to do with selfishness. I devoted my entire life to kids, husbands, lovers. I made a concience decision to take some of my life and learn who I was. I learned to live alone. I am single by choice not for lack of offers. It has to do with self discovery and freedom not selfishness. Ive learned to be smart about what I want in a partner and I will never settle for less again. I also set an example for my girls to learn to be independant and strong and self reliant. I think that to be as needy as you are is unbalanced and unhealthy. If I was a man I would run for the hills quite frankly. O and last time I checked? I was able to breathe just fine.
Hi V, I was wondering how to respond to the thread author but you have done it beautifully and succinctly.
Whilst I agree that the thread is interesting, and all the men are positively drooling,I do not see myself as selfish for choosing to live alone.
One reaches a stage in ones life when decisions are often made for you,like bringing up children,caring for parents,careers etc., which makes it really difficult to start a new relationship.
We all have our place in life and yes I agree,nothing like having a loving partner to share it with,but I would rather have my life as it is with loving family and friends,male and female,than upset the balance and go through the pain of another broken relationship.
Carinas: I know and I heard many women saying they don't want and need a man in their lives.To me that is like saying you don't need air in order to breathe.So of course,I asked for explanations.They say,well I'm very independent,I can do everything on my own(great job,financial stability,take care of the house)and besides I don't want to have to clean or cook for anyone.But what about love?I guess in the self absorbed,narcissistic world we live in,we can do very well without love from others...as we love ourselves to idolatry.But what about companionship?What about the need to give,if not receive,affection?.
I love men,I can't even imagine how my life would have been without them.I love men that behave like men"both strong and childish".I think they give us,women a sense of purpose,a sort of ecstatic delight in which we indulge guiltlessly.They are basic creatures,which is not to say they lack complexity,but it's more of a leveled stratification of insights and accomplishments.I love men because I hardly ever understand anything about them in relation to me and/or other women.And I love men because their annoying masculinity makes me happy I'm a woman.
And as for myself,I've always needed a man in my life.He doesn't have to be perfect because I'm not perfect.I need someone to shake me when I' m being too much of a woman .When I'm too emotional to see clearly or when I'm lost and scared.Maybe I'm old fashioned but I have discovered with astonishment that, a man's heart is like an unforgettable poem "I'm in love with your soul and I'm deeply grateful to you " I love men because their analytical insights just help me focus on my delicate touches of feminity.I also don't need to patronize men,or people in general to fulfill a wrinkled sense of identity.
I don't know and I'm not here to either judge or claim but I feel it's important to raise the questions to encourange introspection
Im with you, Sista!
They are Luverly, Cuddly, Bunny-Like Creatures and I wouldnt do without 'em..
imsophie1: Unfortunately (at times), being a giver is part of my core programming. Always has been. I've spent my life giving to and doing for others with no thought to my own wants and needs. I've been told recently that I need to be a bit more selfish and start thinking about me once in a while. I find doing that very difficult. Every time I think about doing something just for me, I actually feel guilty. It just seems so mean and selfish to think only of myself, no matter how insignificant the situation.
Lately I've been trying to figure out if an adult can learn to be more selfish. I know children learn to be selfish when they're young and it carries over into adulthood, but can an adult really learn something like that?
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I love men,I can't even imagine how my life would have been without them.I love men that behave like men"both strong and childish".I think they give us,women a sense of purpose,a sort of ecstatic delight in which we indulge guiltlessly.They are basic creatures,which is not to say they lack complexity,but it's more of a leveled stratification of insights and accomplishments.I love men because I hardly ever understand anything about them in relation to me and/or other women.And I love men because their annoying masculinity makes me happy I'm a woman.
And as for myself,I've always needed a man in my life.He doesn't have to be perfect because I'm not perfect.I need someone to shake me when I' m being too much of a woman .When I'm too emotional to see clearly or when I'm lost and scared.Maybe I'm old fashioned but I have discovered with astonishment that, a man's heart is like an unforgettable poem "I'm in love with your soul and I'm deeply grateful to you "
I love men because their analytical insights just help me focus on my delicate touches of feminity.I also don't need to patronize men,or people in general to fulfill a wrinkled sense of identity.
I don't know and I'm not here to either judge or claim but I feel it's important to raise the questions to encourange introspection