imsophie1: Unfortunately (at times), being a giver is part of my core programming. Always has been. I've spent my life giving to and doing for others with no thought to my own wants and needs. I've been told recently that I need to be a bit more selfish and start thinking about me once in a while. I find doing that very difficult. Every time I think about doing something just for me, I actually feel guilty. It just seems so mean and selfish to think only of myself, no matter how insignificant the situation.
Lately I've been trying to figure out if an adult can learn to be more selfish. I know children learn to be selfish when they're young and it carries over into adulthood, but can an adult really learn something like that?
think its hard to change from been a giver to a taker and i agree that so many people just...take....take..take. mabey if ur lucky enough to meet upwith someone with ur values than someone who bleeds ur head dry then it will change for u...dont ever feel guilty about wanting something good for urself . chin up smiley
Buffy327: Love your thread OP, Very Nice, Very Nice indeed. I am very independent which of course means I can certainly take care of myself.....I just choose to share my life....<smile>
Carinas: I know and I heard many women saying they don't want and need a man in their lives.To me that is like saying you don't need air in order to breathe.So of course,I asked for explanations.They say,well I'm very independent,I can do everything on my own(great job,financial stability,take care of the house)and besides I don't want to have to clean or cook for anyone.But what about love?I guess in the self absorbed,narcissistic world we live in,we can do very well without love from others...as we love ourselves to idolatry.But what about companionship?What about the need to give,if not receive,affection?.
I love men,I can't even imagine how my life would have been without them.I love men that behave like men"both strong and childish".I think they give us,women a sense of purpose,a sort of ecstatic delight in which we indulge guiltlessly.They are basic creatures,which is not to say they lack complexity,but it's more of a leveled stratification of insights and accomplishments.I love men because I hardly ever understand anything about them in relation to me and/or other women.And I love men because their annoying masculinity makes me happy I'm a woman.
And as for myself,I've always needed a man in my life.He doesn't have to be perfect because I'm not perfect.I need someone to shake me when I' m being too much of a woman .When I'm too emotional to see clearly or when I'm lost and scared.Maybe I'm old fashioned but I have discovered with astonishment that, a man's heart is like an unforgettable poem "I'm in love with your soul and I'm deeply grateful to you " I love men because their analytical insights just help me focus on my delicate touches of feminity.I also don't need to patronize men,or people in general to fulfill a wrinkled sense of identity.
I don't know and I'm not here to either judge or claim but I feel it's important to raise the questions to encourange introspection
Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
Who says giving and sharing can only be done from a woman to a man?
I find interesting the men who have chosen to post their agreement with OP ... SOME of them I have read less than complementary posts from them on the subject of "women". In my opinion less than complimentary would be of the "objectifying" kind (some of those posts were downright abusive). It doesn't alltogether surprise me that a "needy" woman would be their preference.
As far as I am concerned, I am more than capable of looking after myself. I am just as much in my element with a shovel in the garden, mixing cement or drilling holes to put up shelves as I am with a needle and thread, knitting needles, or putting together a meal ...
I am on my own at the moment and will remain so till I meet a man who is my equal and I am his equal. I don't need him to take the garbage out and put up the shelves.
I would love to share a good balanced life with an interesting balanced man. For me a life made of TV + bars + consumerism just doesn't cut it. Being on my own is less boring than being with a man with limited interests even if it means missing out on the hugs and loving.
So I'll wait till the Universe makes my path cross with the guy who's going to make my heart sing to a music that he won't have picked up from TV, the bars or a publicity slogan
Carinas: I know and I heard many women saying they don't want and need a man in their lives.To me that is like saying you don't need air in order to breathe.So of course,I asked for explanations.They say,well I'm very independent,I can do everything on my own(great job,financial stability,take care of the house)and besides I don't want to have to clean or cook for anyone.But what about love?I guess in the self absorbed,narcissistic world we live in,we can do very well without love from others...as we love ourselves to idolatry.But what about companionship?What about the need to give,if not receive,affection?.
I love men,I can't even imagine how my life would have been without them.I love men that behave like men"both strong and childish".I think they give us,women a sense of purpose,a sort of ecstatic delight in which we indulge guiltlessly.They are basic creatures,which is not to say they lack complexity,but it's more of a leveled stratification of insights and accomplishments.I love men because I hardly ever understand anything about them in relation to me and/or other women.And I love men because their annoying masculinity makes me happy I'm a woman.
And as for myself,I've always needed a man in my life.He doesn't have to be perfect because I'm not perfect.I need someone to shake me when I' m being too much of a woman .When I'm too emotional to see clearly or when I'm lost and scared.Maybe I'm old fashioned but I have discovered with astonishment that, a man's heart is like an unforgettable poem "I'm in love with your soul and I'm deeply grateful to you " I love men because their analytical insights just help me focus on my delicate touches of feminity.I also don't need to patronize men,or people in general to fulfill a wrinkled sense of identity.
I don't know and I'm not here to either judge or claim but I feel it's important to raise the questions to encourange introspection
I think that I like you!
I think that at my sort of age it takes a great leap of faith to fully let someone into my life and live with them.
Carinas: I know and I heard many women saying they don't want and need a man in their lives.To me that is like saying you don't need air in order to breathe.So of course,I asked for explanations.They say,well I'm very independent,I can do everything on my own(great job,financial stability,take care of the house)and besides I don't want to have to clean or cook for anyone.But what about love?I guess in the self absorbed,narcissistic world we live in,we can do very well without love from others...as we love ourselves to idolatry.But what about companionship?What about the need to give,if not receive,affection?.
I love men,I can't even imagine how my life would have been without them.I love men that behave like men"both strong and childish".I think they give us,women a sense of purpose,a sort of ecstatic delight in which we indulge guiltlessly.They are basic creatures,which is not to say they lack complexity,but it's more of a leveled stratification of insights and accomplishments.I love men because I hardly ever understand anything about them in relation to me and/or other women.And I love men because their annoying masculinity makes me happy I'm a woman.
And as for myself,I've always needed a man in my life.He doesn't have to be perfect because I'm not perfect.I need someone to shake me when I' m being too much of a woman .When I'm too emotional to see clearly or when I'm lost and scared.Maybe I'm old fashioned but I have discovered with astonishment that, a man's heart is like an unforgettable poem "I'm in love with your soul and I'm deeply grateful to you " I love men because their analytical insights just help me focus on my delicate touches of feminity.I also don't need to patronize men,or people in general to fulfill a wrinkled sense of identity.
I don't know and I'm not here to either judge or claim but I feel it's important to raise the questions to encourange introspection
I guess to each their own. You stated you NEED a man. Most women just don't need a man but we certainly need air to breathe, water to drink, food, etc. Some people feel they aren't complete unless they have someone in their life but that doesn't speak for all of us. I have lots of male friends and that suits me fine but I certainly don't need them as my partner. You call it self absorbed that some don't want love but I call it survival. You have to take care of yourself first; no one else is going to do that nor would I expect them too. I don't think it selfish if you don't want love. I give to charities all the time and volunteer my time with the youth as well as local charities. I can't give love to a man but certainly can give love to my community. Isn't it really all about what makes you happy?
In response to: I know and I heard many women saying they don't want and need a man in their lives.To me that is like saying you don't need air in order to breathe.So of course,I asked for explanations.They say,well I'm very independent,I can do everything on my own(great job,financial stability,take care of the house)and besides I don't want to have to clean or cook for anyone.But what about love?I guess in the self absorbed,narcissistic world we live in,we can do very well without love from others...as we love ourselves to idolatry.But what about companionship?What about the need to give,if not receive,affection?.
I love men,I can't even imagine how my life would have been without them.I love men that behave like men"both strong and childish".I think they give us,women a sense of purpose,a sort of ecstatic delight in which we indulge guiltlessly.They are basic creatures,which is not to say they lack complexity,but it's more of a leveled stratification of insights and accomplishments.I love men because I hardly ever understand anything about them in relation to me and/or other women.And I love men because their annoying masculinity makes me happy I'm a woman.
And as for myself,I've always needed a man in my life.He doesn't have to be perfect because I'm not perfect.I need someone to shake me when I' m being too much of a woman .When I'm too emotional to see clearly or when I'm lost and scared.Maybe I'm old fashioned but I have discovered with astonishment that, a man's heart is like an unforgettable poem "I'm in love with your soul and I'm deeply grateful to you " I love men because their analytical insights just help me focus on my delicate touches of feminity.I also don't need to patronize men,or people in general to fulfill a wrinkled sense of identity.
I don't know and I'm not here to either judge or claim but I feel it's important to raise the questions to encourange introspection
BRAVO! Excellent bait! (Did you inbox fill up right quick, hon?)
I'm not in the mood to analytically tear this tripe apart or comment on whether men or women seem to be more selfish...
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Lately I've been trying to figure out if an adult can learn to be more selfish. I know children learn to be selfish when they're young and it carries over into adulthood, but can an adult really learn something like that?
think its hard to change from been a giver to a taker and i agree that so many people just...take....take..take. mabey if ur lucky enough to meet upwith someone with ur values than someone who bleeds ur head dry then it will change for u...dont ever feel guilty about wanting something good for urself . chin up smiley