Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share? ( Archived) (144)

May 17, 2011 11:05 AM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
ttmmm
ttmmmttmmmmullingar, Westmeath Ireland10 Threads 8 Polls 499 Posts
imsophie1: Unfortunately (at times), being a giver is part of my core programming. Always has been. I've spent my life giving to and doing for others with no thought to my own wants and needs. I've been told recently that I need to be a bit more selfish and start thinking about me once in a while. I find doing that very difficult. Every time I think about doing something just for me, I actually feel guilty. It just seems so mean and selfish to think only of myself, no matter how insignificant the situation.

Lately I've been trying to figure out if an adult can learn to be more selfish. I know children learn to be selfish when they're young and it carries over into adulthood, but can an adult really learn something like that?



think its hard to change from been a giver to a taker and i agree that so many people just...take....take..take. mabey if ur lucky enough to meet upwith someone with ur values than someone who bleeds ur head dry then it will change for u...dont ever feel guilty about wanting something good for urself .thumbs up chin up smiley
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May 17, 2011 11:11 AM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
ttmmm
ttmmmttmmmmullingar, Westmeath Ireland10 Threads 8 Polls 499 Posts
Buffy327: Love your thread OP, Very Nice, Very Nice indeed. I am very independent which of course means I can certainly take care of myself.....I just choose to share my life....<smile>
hug comfort handshake
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May 17, 2011 11:13 AM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
matchbox
matchboxmatchboxbalzan, Majjistral Malta134 Threads 1 Polls 635 Posts
Carinas: I know and I heard many women saying they don't want and need a man in their lives.To me that is like saying you don't need air in order to breathe.So of course,I asked for explanations.They say,well I'm very independent,I can do everything on my own(great job,financial stability,take care of the house)and besides I don't want to have to clean or cook for anyone.But what about love?I guess in the self absorbed,narcissistic world we live in,we can do very well without love from others...as we love ourselves to idolatry.But what about companionship?What about the need to give,if not receive,affection?.

I love men,I can't even imagine how my life would have been without them.I love men that behave like men"both strong and childish".I think they give us,women a sense of purpose,a sort of ecstatic delight in which we indulge guiltlessly.They are basic creatures,which is not to say they lack complexity,but it's more of a leveled stratification of insights and accomplishments.I love men because I hardly ever understand anything about them in relation to me and/or other women.And I love men because their annoying masculinity makes me happy I'm a woman.

And as for myself,I've always needed a man in my life.He doesn't have to be perfect because I'm not perfect.I need someone to shake me when I' m being too much of a woman .When I'm too emotional to see clearly or when I'm lost and scared.Maybe I'm old fashioned but I have discovered with astonishment that, a man's heart is like an unforgettable poem "I'm in love with your soul and I'm deeply grateful to you "
I love men because their analytical insights just help me focus on my delicate touches of feminity.I also don't need to patronize men,or people in general to fulfill a wrinkled sense of identity.

I don't know and I'm not here to either judge or claim but I feel it's important to raise the questions to encourange introspection
i totally agree with you
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May 17, 2011 12:16 PM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?


Who says giving and sharing can only be done from a woman to a man?

I find interesting the men who have chosen to post their agreement with OP ... SOME of them I have read less than complementary posts from them on the subject of "women". In my opinion less than complimentary would be of the "objectifying" kind (some of those posts were downright abusive). It doesn't alltogether surprise me that a "needy" woman would be their preference.

As far as I am concerned, I am more than capable of looking after myself. I am just as much in my element with a shovel in the garden, mixing cement or drilling holes to put up shelves as I am with a needle and thread, knitting needles, or putting together a meal ...

I am on my own at the moment and will remain so till I meet a man who is my equal and I am his equal. I don't need him to take the garbage out and put up the shelves.

I would love to share a good balanced life with an interesting balanced man. For me a life made of TV + bars + consumerism just doesn't cut it. Being on my own is less boring than being with a man with limited interests even if it means missing out on the hugs and loving.

So I'll wait till the Universe makes my path cross with the guy who's going to make my heart sing to a music that he won't have picked up from TV, the bars or a publicity slogan laugh



flirty
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May 17, 2011 12:19 PM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
scottyburd
scottyburdscottyburdglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK6,016 Posts
To be brutally honest...yes im selfish with myself,i dont want to share my home and my space 24/7..
Just weekends..grin
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May 17, 2011 12:23 PM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
bestbefore
bestbeforebestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK116 Threads 2 Polls 4,701 Posts
scottyburd: To be brutally honest...yes im selfish with myself,i dont want to share my home and my space 24/7..
Just weekends..


Atta Girl,no sharing the chocs either.hug
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May 17, 2011 12:24 PM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
ColonelBogey
ColonelBogeyColonelBogeyHere, Surrey, England UK13 Threads 996 Posts
Carinas: I know and I heard many women saying they don't want and need a man in their lives.To me that is like saying you don't need air in order to breathe.So of course,I asked for explanations.They say,well I'm very independent,I can do everything on my own(great job,financial stability,take care of the house)and besides I don't want to have to clean or cook for anyone.But what about love?I guess in the self absorbed,narcissistic world we live in,we can do very well without love from others...as we love ourselves to idolatry.But what about companionship?What about the need to give,if not receive,affection?.

I love men,I can't even imagine how my life would have been without them.I love men that behave like men"both strong and childish".I think they give us,women a sense of purpose,a sort of ecstatic delight in which we indulge guiltlessly.They are basic creatures,which is not to say they lack complexity,but it's more of a leveled stratification of insights and accomplishments.I love men because I hardly ever understand anything about them in relation to me and/or other women.And I love men because their annoying masculinity makes me happy I'm a woman.

And as for myself,I've always needed a man in my life.He doesn't have to be perfect because I'm not perfect.I need someone to shake me when I' m being too much of a woman .When I'm too emotional to see clearly or when I'm lost and scared.Maybe I'm old fashioned but I have discovered with astonishment that, a man's heart is like an unforgettable poem "I'm in love with your soul and I'm deeply grateful to you "
I love men because their analytical insights just help me focus on my delicate touches of feminity.I also don't need to patronize men,or people in general to fulfill a wrinkled sense of identity.

I don't know and I'm not here to either judge or claim but I feel it's important to raise the questions to encourange introspection

I think that I like you!
wine
I think that at my sort of age it takes a great leap of faith to fully let someone into my life and live with them.
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May 17, 2011 12:28 PM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
scottyburd
scottyburdscottyburdglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK6,016 Posts
bestbefore: Atta Girl,no sharing the chocs either.


Hey there wee lass wave
I would happily buy someone chocs than share mine..grin bouquet
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May 17, 2011 12:30 PM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
maryrachelle
maryrachellemaryrachelleBathurst, New Brunswick Canada27 Threads 1,370 Posts
You can receive love from many other people other then a romantic partner.
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May 17, 2011 12:33 PM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
maryrachelle: You can receive love from many other people other then a romantic partner.



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May 17, 2011 12:42 PM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Carinas: I know and I heard many women saying they don't want and need a man in their lives.To me that is like saying you don't need air in order to breathe.So of course,I asked for explanations.They say,well I'm very independent,I can do everything on my own(great job,financial stability,take care of the house)and besides I don't want to have to clean or cook for anyone.But what about love?I guess in the self absorbed,narcissistic world we live in,we can do very well without love from others...as we love ourselves to idolatry.But what about companionship?What about the need to give,if not receive,affection?.

I love men,I can't even imagine how my life would have been without them.I love men that behave like men"both strong and childish".I think they give us,women a sense of purpose,a sort of ecstatic delight in which we indulge guiltlessly.They are basic creatures,which is not to say they lack complexity,but it's more of a leveled stratification of insights and accomplishments.I love men because I hardly ever understand anything about them in relation to me and/or other women.And I love men because their annoying masculinity makes me happy I'm a woman.

And as for myself,I've always needed a man in my life.He doesn't have to be perfect because I'm not perfect.I need someone to shake me when I' m being too much of a woman .When I'm too emotional to see clearly or when I'm lost and scared.Maybe I'm old fashioned but I have discovered with astonishment that, a man's heart is like an unforgettable poem "I'm in love with your soul and I'm deeply grateful to you "
I love men because their analytical insights just help me focus on my delicate touches of feminity.I also don't need to patronize men,or people in general to fulfill a wrinkled sense of identity.

I don't know and I'm not here to either judge or claim but I feel it's important to raise the questions to encourange introspection

And I like Women who behave like women

however this is not one of them...
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May 17, 2011 12:50 PM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
single4ever
single4eversingle4everCalgary, Alberta Canada1,109 Posts
I guess to each their own. You stated you NEED a man. Most women just don't need a man but we certainly need air to breathe, water to drink, food, etc. Some people feel they aren't complete unless they have someone in their life but that doesn't speak for all of us. I have lots of male friends and that suits me fine but I certainly don't need them as my partner. You call it self absorbed that some don't want love but I call it survival. You have to take care of yourself first; no one else is going to do that nor would I expect them too. I don't think it selfish if you don't want love. I give to charities all the time and volunteer my time with the youth as well as local charities. I can't give love to a man but certainly can give love to my community. Isn't it really all about what makes you happy? grin
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May 17, 2011 12:50 PM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
Aswina
AswinaAswinaNitra, Slovakia2 Threads 1,373 Posts
Boban1: And I like Women who behave like women

however this is not one of them...

well... why doesn´t her mom clean out her mouth with soap?grin laugh
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May 17, 2011 12:53 PM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
scottyburd
scottyburdscottyburdglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK6,016 Posts
Aswina: well... why doesn´t her mom clean out her mouth with soap?


I did that to my daughter because she said the F word..she still remembers it to this day..laugh
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May 17, 2011 12:55 PM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
Aswina
AswinaAswinaNitra, Slovakia2 Threads 1,373 Posts
scottyburd: I did that to my daughter because she said the F word..she still remembers it to this day..

my mom did it for me... and I did it for my daughter... rolling on the floor laughing word F ... has been forgotten in our familylaugh
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May 17, 2011 12:55 PM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Aswina: well... why doesn´t her mom clean out her mouth with soap?

Her mother is a Ninja...uh oh
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May 17, 2011 12:58 PM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
Aswina
AswinaAswinaNitra, Slovakia2 Threads 1,373 Posts
Boban1: Her mother is a Ninja...

and which one? Rafaello, Donatello... and others I forgot laugh
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May 17, 2011 1:07 PM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Aswina: and which one? Rafaello, Donatello... and others I forgot
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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May 17, 2011 1:15 PM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
Ladefoss23
Ladefoss23Ladefoss23Langen, Hessen Germany79 Threads 26 Polls 1,898 Posts
cgedvr: marry me...


no she's mineheart wings
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May 17, 2011 1:18 PM CST Are we becoming so brutally selfish that we forget how important it's to give and share?
PandoraX
PandoraXPandoraXApeldoorn, Gelderland Netherlands4 Threads 3,191 Posts
In response to: I know and I heard many women saying they don't want and need a man in their lives.To me that is like saying you don't need air in order to breathe.So of course,I asked for explanations.They say,well I'm very independent,I can do everything on my own(great job,financial stability,take care of the house)and besides I don't want to have to clean or cook for anyone.But what about love?I guess in the self absorbed,narcissistic world we live in,we can do very well without love from others...as we love ourselves to idolatry.But what about companionship?What about the need to give,if not receive,affection?.

I love men,I can't even imagine how my life would have been without them.I love men that behave like men"both strong and childish".I think they give us,women a sense of purpose,a sort of ecstatic delight in which we indulge guiltlessly.They are basic creatures,which is not to say they lack complexity,but it's more of a leveled stratification of insights and accomplishments.I love men because I hardly ever understand anything about them in relation to me and/or other women.And I love men because their annoying masculinity makes me happy I'm a woman.

And as for myself,I've always needed a man in my life.He doesn't have to be perfect because I'm not perfect.I need someone to shake me when I' m being too much of a woman .When I'm too emotional to see clearly or when I'm lost and scared.Maybe I'm old fashioned but I have discovered with astonishment that, a man's heart is like an unforgettable poem "I'm in love with your soul and I'm deeply grateful to you "
I love men because their analytical insights just help me focus on my delicate touches of feminity.I also don't need to patronize men,or people in general to fulfill a wrinkled sense of identity.

I don't know and I'm not here to either judge or claim but I feel it's important to raise the questions to encourange introspection


BRAVO! Excellent bait! roll eyes
(Did you inbox fill up right quick, hon?)






I'm not in the mood to analytically tear this tripe apart or comment on whether men or women seem to be more selfish...
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