CREATONISM - Another Catholic Joke ( Archived) (90)

If i were walking past a church..with a friend,and he walked in ,but i walked past ,who is right ,and who is wrong...???every one to his own opinion.....i say..because at the end of the day we still meet up...and enjoy each others company...enjoying what life has to offer.......jmo....

As I said I will always be against any religion, as it has nothing to do with faith . . . in what ever deity people believe in - - - and YES I will say that people blindly believing in what religion is teaching them - - are stupid and brain washed ( I am talking in blind belief, and not an open mind of a person that has faith ) - - - It is clear that religion and faith has nothing to do with one another - - Plenty people believe in god, have faith, but they do not believe in teachings of their religious groups they seem to label them selves with - - - If you got the impression I do not respect people with different belief then mine, then you are mistaken.

Besides . . . why those people get offended every time as if they are attacked if one challenges their way of thinking, some start screaming "attack, insult" and when they insult people that think similar or the same as me, we are considered as immoral, and less of a human beings - - - ? That is insulting to is it not - - and to go further - - scientific research, of sociology, and psychology - - that spanned Europe and States, proved that violence is much more common in countries that are more religious then in countries that have far less religious people - - and I EMHPESIZE RELIGOUS not people with faith - - Even with this research, and numbers it produced one can see the difference between religious societies, that are more inhumane, more intolerant, towards everything different then what they preach to be right and what is wrong - - -

That is absolutely untrue. But here I am not talking about Scientific Creationism, though they have qualified scientist writing in their magazines. I have a science background myself, though I am in IT nowadays.

Science must also postulate certain things even if they cannot prove it. For example, the Big Bang could have only occurred if most of the matter of the universe is invisible and undetectable. Here you go, so they propose the idea of dark matter. Where is it? Who knows! Scientists simply accept its existence by blind faith simply because without it their model doesn't work.

Or how did the Big Bang occur? In the beginning there was a big nothingness. All matter was compressed in an infinitely small point (suprise, suprise, you need lots of faith here already) because of the immense gravity keeps matter in a collapsed state.

But then somehow it exploded. Wow! This is one of the biggest problem with the model. Because if it exploded (what actually had such a power to overcome this immense gravity? - lots of faith required again, you see?) all the tiny quarks and whatever it broke into would fly away from the centre in a straight line, because all the forces are isotropic, you cannot have any turbulence. But to form galaxies you need turbulence, so we need to speculate how to get turbulence.

I have to admit I have not followed science for at least 15 years, so I don't know where they are today, but you can see from the illustration I gave you how much problem the have if they want to come up with a model and still look smart.

Believers in creation say, we do not know how it happened, we are not told. The universe is the reflection of the infinite God, and is discoverable, and we should discover it.

I don't think you can accuse religion about the idea of the flat earth, it was the Roman Catholic church that invented it along with heaps of other things, the real biblical faith is way way simpler that what they invented.

I don't go to church. I don't follow any of their teachings.

I have no idea about it, I simply did a quick google search, but I used to subscribe to scientific magazines that had articles from Christian scientists. they were not religiously charged articles, but proper science articles.

It could not have been created in 6 literal days because it says, God caused waters to flow into one place called seas and caused trees to grow out of the dry ground. Simply these things cannot happen in a day.

the bible is not a science book - - - THAT is what I'm talking about - - - As for me know it all - - - I will never EVER say I KNOW IT ALL, you are repeating that - - - So your problem not mine if you think that - - -

Science works with models that are continually refined and sometimes completely dumped and replaced to accommodate new data. The universe is knowable and that is the beauty about it. - - - I agree with you

The idea of creation doesn't go against this. - - Yes it does, with every "theory" they produce about the creation, negating evolution, as they say that evolution is "just a theory," with the intent of emphasizing that scientific theories are never absolute, or of characterizing it as a matter of opinion rather than of fact or evidence. They also opposes many claims and theories in the fields of physics and chemistry (especially absolute dating methods), geology, astronomy, cosmology, paleontology, molecular biology, genomics, linguistics, anthropology, archaeology, climatology, dendrochronology and any other fields of science that have developed theories or made claims incompatible with their version of world history. They are fundamentally opposed to any explanation for the origins of anything which deviates from their literal reading of the Bible, whether it be the origins of biological diversity, the origins of life or the origins of the universe itself.

neither do i ......R....the only thing i do follow....is the ten commandments..to the best of my abillity.and that is all..............