rohaan: You're certainly not alone in this, so I would think there could be organizations to help sort out all these questions; others to talk it over with that may have insight, etc...
To answer a few of your questions, as a lay person, not to say this is Gospel (!) In California, alimony must keep the payee "securely in the lifestyle said payee was accustomed to while married". In Oregon, spousal support is based on reasonable cost of living for the average middle class (but rulings are all over the place-- depending on where the couple lived). I don't know about other states. In some instances, even after a "settlement", the paid party can keep revisiting the case, getting more than previously agreed on, etc... which I think is extremely unfair. JMO
kennn: One does have to come to terms with it, no doubt, but I would remarry if the right relationship happened for me. Making more money and replacing the material things was the easy part for me. The emotional end of getting divorced was a bit harder to get over, but hey life goes on and time heals all wounds. I know I have posted this before but my ex and I are better friends now than we ever were while we were married.
There's where we differ Kennn I would not remarry having said that I can't really explain why. I think just meeting someone new & getting used to being a part of a more normal way of life. I really didn't want to use the word normal because it's a word that opens different doors for different people. What is normal? Is there such a thing?
rohaan: To answer a few of your questions, as a lay person, not to say this is Gospel (!) In California, alimony must keep the payee "securely in the lifestyle said payee was accustomed to while married". In Oregon, spousal support is based on reasonable cost of living for the average middle class (but rulings are all over the place-- depending on where the couple lived). I don't know about other states. In some instances, even after a "settlement", the paid party can keep revisiting the case, getting more than previously agreed on, etc... which I think is extremely unfair. JMO
Makes you wonder what was on their minds when they decided on how these laws were put to paper.
springguy: There's where we differ Kennn I would not remarry having said that I can't really explain why. I think just meeting someone new & getting used to being a part of a more normal way of life. I really didn't want to use the word normal because it's a word that opens different doors for different people. What is normal? Is there such a thing?
Certainly If I were to remarry, it would have to be the right thing for both of us. I could be just as happy being in a relationship where we both lived in our separate homes. Friendship is a wonderful thing and it should be valued on all levels.I think that the respect that comes with it is what makes it worth so much. Normal does have different connotations for different people but one must go by what is normal for him. With a bit of luck we can all find someone special to share our feelings and thoughts with.
rohaan: To answer a few of your questions, as a lay person, not to say this is Gospel (!) In California, alimony must keep the payee "securely in the lifestyle said payee was accustomed to while married". In Oregon, spousal support is based on reasonable cost of living for the average middle class (but rulings are all over the place-- depending on where the couple lived). I don't know about other states. In some instances, even after a "settlement", the paid party can keep revisiting the case, getting more than previously agreed on, etc... which I think is extremely unfair. JMO
I still say visit the humane society and get a dog.
cristina: Does bi-polar even exist or is it just temper?
I have bi-polar disorder. Yes, it exists.
I rarely mention that I have it because I've had it perfectly under control for several years.
The thing about bi-polar disorder (and schizophrenia for that matter) is that there is the disorder, and then there is the person. What the person is made of is about a third of the equation, how the disorder impairs the person is another third, and the final third is the disorder itself.
Before the onset of the disorder in my early teens, I was a naturally tough-minded individual who both resisted and didn't buy into the disorder as it took hold and progressed. This allowed me to hold out for many years, until something close to a cure was found- serotonin reuptake inhibitors in my case. I could say that I'm cured, except that that would change the moment I stopped taking my pills. However, if a procedure was ever developed that caused my body to properly produce serotonin again, I would actually be cured.
Speaking as a person who has bi-polar disorder, there are a number of things I can tell you about the disorder that you will not find in any textbook. The first thing you have to understand is that the talk of "highs" and "lows" is utter nonsense. This is how the disorder appears to an observer. What is actually taking place, where the "highs" are concerned, is a process in the brain called "feedback". Think of the squealing sound of a microphone when you place it too close to a speaker. This is what the brain is experiencing during a "high". It's not actually a "high"- it's a feedback loop. The so-called "low" is the crash that follows. If your brain were an amplifier, it would be fried after experiencing feedback. The low is the brain being "crapped out", a process where it needs quiet and to be left alone, in order to allow it time to recover. What the layman "sees" is a person who "doesn't want to get out of bed and do something".
When a "low" is prolonged, it's because the brain is experiencing a different type of feedback loop. It's literally stuck in "crapout mode", and for a time has lost the ability to spontaneously recover.
Take a different person and you end up with a different situation. If you're dealing with a person who is easily overwhelmed, emotionally and mentally, that person ends up having psychotic breaks. In those cases the disorder is a hundred times worse, because not only is the feedback process compounded many times, but the person's wherewithall, their ability to withstand the effects of the disorder, gets eroded over time until the person has few or no resources left with which to withstand or fight back. This is the peril especially of paranoid schizophrenics. Not only is the disorder devastating in and of itself, but the effect of the disorder on the sufferer is an horrific trial, not only every waking moment of each and every day, but during sleep as well. Even the subconscious mind is invaded, so that there is no escape, no relief, ever.
Any- sorry to run on like this; I just felt it was important for people reading this thread to know a bit of what bi-polar disorder is about.
Now that I've outed myself as a crazy person, you'll all no doubt be watching my posts for signs of my coming unhinged . . .
rohaan: To answer a few of your questions, as a lay person, not to say this is Gospel (!) In California, alimony must keep the payee "securely in the lifestyle said payee was accustomed to while married". In Oregon, spousal support is based on reasonable cost of living for the average middle class (but rulings are all over the place-- depending on where the couple lived). I don't know about other states. In some instances, even after a "settlement", the paid party can keep revisiting the case, getting more than previously agreed on, etc... which I think is extremely unfair. JMO
Here at Texas the man has to pay alimony to the ex if the marriage lasted over ten years, and stops if the woman were to re-marry.
Good post,gsmonks. I have a brother with this disorder so I can relate to everything you have said. It is sad though how much negative feedback that we, as a family, recieve from people that know absolutley nothing about this disorder.
As an observer of this thread I get the impression the intelligence bestowed upon you comes with a superb twist ... I have studied and experienced human and mother nature for many years now and recognise that you are not only blessed with a high IQ but also possess a level of EQ too... perhaps the meds have helped the so called thick fog in you to become a much lighter mist and has assisted you in being better mentally equipped to be able to deal with and understand you and your families condition... you do however seem to choose being a seeker rather than being a resister... those who use their defense side in the choice of how to deal with whatever they are challenged with struggle sooooo much more than those who choose to seek and keep themselves open for learning... the resisters base their choices through fear and the ego while the seekers base their choices through love and the higher self... thank you for sharing and allowing yourself to be vulnerable... I do wish you well for your future and hope you see the strength in you that I do
As an observer of this thread I get the impression the intelligence bestowed upon you comes with a superb twist ... I have studied and experienced human and mother nature for many years now and recognise that you are not only blessed with a high IQ but also possess a level of EQ too... perhaps the meds have helped the so called thick fog in you to become a much lighter mist and has assisted you in being better mentally equipped to be able to deal with and understand you and your families condition... you do however seem to choose being a seeker rather than being a resister... those who use their defense side in the choice of how to deal with whatever they are challenged with struggle sooooo much more than those who choose to seek and keep themselves open for learning... the resisters base their choices through fear and the ego while the seekers base their choices through love and the higher self... thank you for sharing and allowing yourself to be vulnerable... I do wish you well for your future and hope you see the strength in you that I do
Love your doggie entourage!
The "meds" I take aren't what you can call "meds" in the traditional sense, mariespoodles. Mine kick-start the production of something (same idea as taking water pills), whereas most medications mask symptoms or else attack an underlying problem (think pain-relief and/or viruses). So bi-polar, for me, is like having diabetes, not a mood-disorder.
EQ? I have several types of electronic EQ in my studio, but I take it you're referring to something else? I'm not familiar with the term.
A seeker? Yes, that does seem to be the difference. It's more complex than merely making choices. It's a question of recognising processes and learning to work with them. Yes, Nature is a path to a certain type of knowledge, if you're willing and have the patience to watch it unfold at its own pace. It's a living music, full of wonder and delight, timelessness and nameless yearning.
The "meds" I take aren't what you can call "meds" in the traditional sense, mariespoodles. Mine kick-start the production of something yep, I agree and totally get that (same idea as taking water pills), whereas most medications mask symptoms or else attack an underlying problem (think pain-relief and/or viruses). So bi-polar, for me, is like having diabetes, not a mood-disorder.
EQ? I have several types of electronic EQ in my studio, but I take it you're referring to something else? stands for Emotional Quotient I'm not familiar with the term.
A seeker?means you allow yourself to remain open for learning Yes, that does seem to be the difference. It's more complex than merely making choices. - yes, I'm aware that it comes under the medical umberella... jus saying you are also making a choice in how you are dealing with it ie: open for learning, educating urself, patient, understanding, tolerant, meds, sharing, etc,etc.., true? It's a question of recognising processes and learning to work with them.Absolutely!!! Yes, Nature is a path to a certain type of knowledge, if you're willing and have the patience to watch it unfold at its own pace - nature is in perfect balance and harmony. It's a living music, full of wonder and delight, timelessness and nameless yearning.
I have a kitty entourage. They go "walkies" with me! My neighbours have nicknamed me the "Pied Piper" because of it, and also because they come running when called, by name (the cats, not my neighbours).
gsmonks: I have a kitty entourage. They go "walkies" with me! My neighbours have nicknamed me the "Pied Piper" because of it, and also because they come running when called, by name (the cats, not my neighbours).
It's all good sweetie!!
Nothing better than living a superb beautiful life with humans and nature matey...
The "meds" I take aren't what you can call "meds" in the traditional sense, mariespoodles. Mine kick-start the production of something (same idea as taking water pills), whereas most medications mask symptoms or else attack an underlying problem (think pain-relief and/or viruses). So bi-polar, for me, is like having diabetes, not a mood-disorder.
EQ? I have several types of electronic EQ in my studio, but I take it you're referring to something else? I'm not familiar with the term.
A seeker? Yes, that does seem to be the difference. It's more complex than merely making choices. It's a question of recognising processes and learning to work with them. Yes, Nature is a path to a certain type of knowledge, if you're willing and have the patience to watch it unfold at its own pace. It's a living music, full of wonder and delight, timelessness and nameless yearning.
Hi gsmonks
Here's the link so that can test your Emotional Quotient (EQ) I took it and scored very high: 45-52.
I have several cats and often referred to as "Baast", the ancient Egyptian Cat Goddess. :) No matter where I go I seem to have the ability to make friends with any animal and it served well when I worked as a veterinary technician. :)
I have several cats and often referred to as "Baast", the ancient Egyptian Cat Goddess. :) No matter where I go I seem to have the ability to make friends with any animal and it served well when I worked as a veterinary technician. :)
H'm . . . dunno what it means (because it came with a cryptic caveat), but I scored 60.
I have several cats and often referred to as "Baast", the ancient Egyptian Cat Goddess. :) No matter where I go I seem to have the ability to make friends with any animal and it served well when I worked as a veterinary technician. :)
I handle insects, particularly bees and wasps, which for some reason evokes a strong negative reaction from some people. Insects are agenda-driven creatures, so if you help fulfill the agenda, they'll accept you without reservation.
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