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Jul 14, 2011 5:58 PM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Observing some of the recent posting behavior here got me to thinking about how men and women tend to think differently and what, exactly, is it that we are looking for from each other in terms of meeting very basic emotional needs.

Are men naturally leaders in a romantic relationship, or should relationships be gender-blind - that is, should the dynamics of the relationship involve exactly reciprocal needs and actions?

How much can we say about the differences between men and women's attitudes that is actually related to gender (if anything)?

Does a conflict exist between "socially correct" views of men-women relationships and the emotional reality of these relationships?

What do men need from women and vice versa?

Are women less logic-minded in general than men, or do the two genders approach reasoning differently in any substantive respect?

These and many other corollary questions await answers from the many brilliant men and women here on CS. laugh dunno frustrated sad flower grin blushing heart beating wine hmmm
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Jul 16, 2011 1:08 AM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
single4ever
single4eversingle4everCalgary, Alberta Canada1,109 Posts
I don't honestly think there is an actual answer to your question. Every man and woman wants something different. For example I am a very independent woman so couldn't be with a guy that wants a needy or dependent woman. Some women have to have children to feel complete; I have never felt that. Everyone is looking for something different so this can only be answered by each individual on what they want. One can not generalize on what a man or woman wants in a relationship or even what they want in life.
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Jul 16, 2011 10:41 AM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada70 Threads 15,139 Posts
Ambrose2007: Observing some of the recent posting behavior here got me to thinking about how men and women tend to think differently and what, exactly, is it that we are looking for from each other in terms of meeting very basic emotional needs.

Are men naturally leaders in a romantic relationship, or should relationships be gender-blind - that is, should the dynamics of the relationship involve exactly reciprocal needs and actions?

How much can we say about the differences between men and women's attitudes that is actually related to gender (if anything)?

Does a conflict exist between "socially correct" views of men-women relationships and the emotional reality of these relationships?

What do men need from women and vice versa?

Are women less logic-minded in general than men, or do the two genders approach reasoning differently in any substantive respect?

These and many other corollary questions await answers from the many brilliant men and women here on CS.


Hi again ambrosse

I think we are all looking for the same...


Trust...


Honesty..

Respect....


Communication...


We have to have all of these For any relationship to work..and of course thee attraction...
teddybear
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Jul 16, 2011 10:47 AM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
Ambrose2007: Observing some of the recent posting behavior here got me to thinking about how men and women tend to think differently and what, exactly, is it that we are looking for from each other in terms of meeting very basic emotional needs.

Are men naturally leaders in a romantic relationship, or should relationships be gender-blind - that is, should the dynamics of the relationship involve exactly reciprocal needs and actions?

How much can we say about the differences between men and women's attitudes that is actually related to gender (if anything)?

Does a conflict exist between "socially correct" views of men-women relationships and the emotional reality of these relationships?

What do men need from women and vice versa?

Are women less logic-minded in general than men, or do the two genders approach reasoning differently in any substantive respect?

These and many other corollary questions await answers from the many brilliant men and women here on CS.


I don't think there is a standard answer to this. Because we are all different, we all have different needs. Some relationships work when one is the more dominant, regardless of gender. Some relationships work when one person allows the other to be dominant laugh Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Hope your well.

cheers
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Jul 16, 2011 10:48 AM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
kissmedeeply: Hi again ambrosse

I think we are all looking for the same...Trust...Honesty..

Respect....Communication...We have to have all of these For any relationship to work..and of course thee attraction...


wave

Hi J.

Good to see you

teddybear hug
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Jul 16, 2011 10:51 AM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada70 Threads 15,139 Posts
vinny1967: Hi J.

Good to see you
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Jul 16, 2011 10:53 AM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Ambrose2007:

Are men naturally leaders in a romantic relationship, or should relationships be gender-blind - that is, should the dynamics of the relationship involve exactly reciprocal needs and actions?


I can`t talk in generally, but I wasn`t born to be a follower


Ambrose2007:

Are women less logic-minded in general than men, or do the two genders approach reasoning differently in any substantive respect?

.

I don`t wish to hurt their feelings by telling them the truth...grin
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Jul 16, 2011 10:55 AM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada70 Threads 15,139 Posts
Boban1: I can`t talk in generally, but I wasn`t born to be a follower
I don`t wish to hurt their feelings by telling them the truth...
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Jul 16, 2011 11:53 AM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Boban1: I can`t talk in generally, but I wasn`t born to be a follower
I don`t wish to hurt their feelings by telling them the truth...



The truth is an imperative. grin Attempting to function without it is aimless and maniacal, like trying to build castles out of thin air. cheers


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Jul 16, 2011 12:16 PM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
To all questions I don't know.laugh
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Jul 16, 2011 12:42 PM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
BB_snickers: The truth is an imperative. Attempting to function without it is aimless and maniacal, like trying to build castles out of thin air.

you couldn`t possibly be more wrong...
It is an imperative for Women to be truthful ,not for Men ...grin
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Jul 16, 2011 12:54 PM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Ccincy: I have a bigger brush then you.Men and women are so complex and Ambross seems to ask complex questions.




Ya, they think they are. dancing Thinking is a dangerous thing for some. laugh



Are you asking to see my brush? rolling on the floor laughing
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Jul 16, 2011 12:55 PM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
BB_snickers: Ya, they think they are. Thinking is a dangerous thing for some.
Are you asking to see my brush?



Nope.laugh
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Jul 16, 2011 12:56 PM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
BB_snickers: Ya, they think they are. Thinking is a dangerous thing for some.
Are you asking to see my brush?


Nope and nor your paint samples.laugh
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Jul 16, 2011 1:01 PM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Boban1: you couldn`t possibly be more wrong...
It is an imperative for Women to be truthful ,not for Men ...




Can integrity exist without truth?

I don't think so. It would be more accurate imo to say that not all truth need be told by The Dominant (male or female) but the submissive,(male or female) you are right, must be totally undressed in all meanings of that word. grin



Don't argue with Me or I'll pee on your fence. laugh
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Jul 16, 2011 1:09 PM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
A_Non_A_Moose
A_Non_A_MooseA_Non_A_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada116 Threads 8 Polls 4,340 Posts
"XY" versus "XX" chromosones. There ARE differences.



Since we have moved away from men having to go knock down a mammoth (and they are damn tricky critters to bring down) whilst the women and children stayed behind, societal conditioning has allowed for a great deal of "masking" of this genetic "hard-wiring to occur. When these "differences" are accepted and understood, the questions as to what men and women really want from each other can possibly be formulated.
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Jul 16, 2011 1:39 PM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
BB_snickers: Can integrity exist without truth?

I don't think so. It would be more accurate imo to say that not all truth need be told by The Dominant (male or female) but the submissive,(male or female) you are right, must be totally undressed in all meanings of that word.
Don't argue with Me or I'll pee on your fence.


Integrity should stand as the opposite of hypocrisy and as you said ,"not all truth need to be told by the dominant"..as long as the Man is the dominant ...grin
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Jul 16, 2011 3:00 PM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
single4ever: I don't honestly think there is an actual answer to your question. Every man and woman wants something different. For example I am a very independent woman so couldn't be with a guy that wants a needy or dependent woman. Some women have to have children to feel complete; I have never felt that. Everyone is looking for something different so this can only be answered by each individual on what they want. One can not generalize on what a man or woman wants in a relationship or even what they want in life.


Well, you're certainly someone I've been curious about with respect to this question, Single.

I seem to recall that your current decision was based on a very bad relationship - one that placed you in a more or less distrustful place regarding men (please refresh my memory if I'm wrong...have been a tad distracted of latelaugh uh oh).

Here's a question I have, drawn from my romantic experiences (please note "experiences" as a general not specific reference!!). When you have a woman's trust, they are far more inclined to allow you to assume what I'll call traditional male roles. What is a "traditional male role"? I'm not glad you asked that question. laugh

Seriously, I'm referring to the role of "wearing the pants" in a family - being the primary decision-maker and so forth. Perhaps that role might be stretched to dominance/or being domineering - and that's part of what I want to discuss here...the distinction (or if you believe there is a distinction? laugh)...but I don't necessarily believe that being a leader in a relationship is a bad thing.

So...when your relationship was good, did you feel the desire for independence, or did that desire begin to crystallize as your relationship deteriorated?

In other words - and this is for all women here - how much of your desire to be "independent" derives from an innate desire to avoid "masculine direction" in your life as opposed to a mate you no longer trust? Could "masculine leadership" feel wrong when you stop trusting your man, or does it feel wrong period?

hmmm laugh (I anticipate someone answering "Uh huh")
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Jul 16, 2011 3:02 PM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Boban1: Integrity should stand as the opposite of hypocrisy and as you said ,"not all truth need to be told by the dominant"..as long as the Man is the dominant ...



laugh conversing head banger
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Jul 16, 2011 3:02 PM CST Men and Women: What Is Their Natural Power Relationship? (A ThreadThat Is Not About... )
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
kissmedeeply: Hi again ambrosse

I think we are all looking for the same...Trust...Honesty..

Respect....Communication...We have to have all of these For any relationship to work..and of course thee attraction...


Hey, J!

When I think of more traditional male-female roles I often think of you and your mate.

Do you feel your man should be the primary decision-maker in your family? Or do you feel that should be exactly 50%?hug bouquet
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