Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child (127)

Nov 13, 2011 4:28 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
salanky
salankysalankydublin, Dublin Ireland90 Threads 1 Polls 9,888 Posts
SundanceWCork: Actually, money does grow on trees. It's paper!
rolling on the floor laughing
Nov 13, 2011 4:29 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
SundanceWCork: Actually, money does grow on trees. It's paper!


Ha, ha you know dam well what I mean, a lot of Irish people seem to think that welfare levels should be kept at existing rates when tax revenues are at 2002 levels.
Nov 13, 2011 4:31 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
I have had a court ordered maintenance order for my sons father for the past 6 yrs......and I have received in total max 7 months payments and that was when it first came into effect. We were in court a few more times....each time he promised to pay...I even asked for the payment amount to be reduced when he became self employed.
Cue a 3 month custodial sentence being handed down 2 and a half years ago......I NEVER wanted that.....then the paperwork goes missing in between stations.....weeks and weeks pass and suddenly he is off living in another country the day before it appears.
Even though it is a court ordered agreement the courts wont go after it....even if he was still in the country.....I would have to take him to the small claims court.
I this year decided to see what I could do to claim for maintenance in the country he is living in...but they say since there is a maintenance here I have to go through our courts, yet our courts say they cant do anything either.

Do you think I want to be claiming benefits?
Do you think I got pregnant on my own...at 26yrs old....not 16.
Even now....I pay my bills....I couldnt afford my car anymore so gave it up.....I dont have much money after bills to do anything let alone live in the lifestyle that some people on here think I am living.

I do agree that the welfare system needs an overhaul but to suggest food stamps and people to rely on charity is shocking.
How do you think people would feel having to do that....to be in that situation that unless they BEG for help, that they would not be able to feed their children?

In norway there is a limit on the length of time you can claim their equivilant to one parent family payment. But during that time every help is given to either further your education or help get your ready for work....amazing childcare is available.

Yes I do agree with the phasing in of a reduction in the length of time, exceptions to be well thought out and acceptable.
BUT....there needs to be a much better system in place than there is now to help and the government are YEARS away from being able to, I feel, even conceive that concept and come up with a plan.
Nov 13, 2011 4:32 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
MarsMan
MarsManMarsManBobbing along, Cork Ireland29 Threads 8 Polls 981 Posts
SundanceWCork: Actually, money does grow on trees. It's paper!


Actually you are wrong, it grows out of the ground, it is made from a cotton fibre mix. laugh
Nov 13, 2011 4:32 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
womaniser: update on news 2nite.. people on jobseekers are gonna be offered work, if they refuse their welfare will be cut


Was that not implemented by O'Cuiv where if someone turned down a job offer only their dole woule be cut by 25%, the cust don't include any other benefits.
Nov 13, 2011 4:35 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
Mariannette: I have had a court ordered maintenance order for my sons father for the past 6 yrs......and I have received in total max 7 months payments and that was when it first came into effect. We were in court a few more times....each time he promised to pay...I even asked for the payment amount to be reduced when he became self employed. Cue a 3 month custodial sentence being handed down 2 and a half years ago......I NEVER wanted that.....then the paperwork goes missing in between stations.....weeks and weeks pass and suddenly he is off living in another country the day before it appears.
Even though it is a court ordered agreement the courts wont go after it....even if he was still in the country.....I would have to take him to the small claims court.
I this year decided to see what I could do to claim for maintenance in the country he is living in...but they say since there is a maintenance here I have to go through our courts, yet our courts say they cant do anything either.

Do you think I want to be claiming benefits?
Do you think I got pregnant on my own...at 26yrs old....not 16.
Even now....I pay my bills....I couldnt afford my car anymore so gave it up.....I dont have much money after bills to do anything let alone live in the lifestyle that some people on here think I am living.

I do agree that the welfare system needs an overhaul but to suggest food stamps and people to rely on charity is shocking.
How do you think people would feel having to do that....to be in that situation that unless they BEG for help, that they would not be able to feed their children?

In norway there is a limit on the length of time you can claim their equivilant to one parent family payment. But during that time every help is given to either further your education or help get your ready for work....amazing childcare is available.

Yes I do agree with the phasing in of a reduction in the length of time, exceptions to be well thought out and acceptable.
BUT....there needs to be a much better system in place than there is now to help and the government are YEARS away from being able to, I feel, even conceive that concept and come up with a plan.


Your kids father is a disgrace.
Nov 13, 2011 4:37 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
fifitheminx
fifitheminxfifitheminxDublin, Ireland35 Threads 4,039 Posts
kennyfromdublin: Your kids father is a disgrace.


disgrace doesnt feed a child..

his mother does.
Nov 13, 2011 4:38 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
jaette
jaettejaetteaughrim, Wicklow Ireland4 Threads 142 Posts
Mariannette: I have had a court ordered maintenance order for my sons father for the past 6 yrs......and I have received in total max 7 months payments and that was when it first came into effect. We were in court a few more times....each time he promised to pay...I even asked for the payment amount to be reduced when he became self employed.
Cue a 3 month custodial sentence being handed down 2 and a half years ago......I NEVER wanted that.....then the paperwork goes missing in between stations.....weeks and weeks pass and suddenly he is off living in another country the day before it appears.
Even though it is a court ordered agreement the courts wont go after it....even if he was still in the country.....I would have to take him to the small claims court.
I this year decided to see what I could do to claim for maintenance in the country he is living in...but they say since there is a maintenance here I have to go through our courts, yet our courts say they cant do anything either.

Do you think I want to be claiming benefits?
Do you think I got pregnant on my own...at 26yrs old....not 16.
Even now....I pay my bills....I couldnt afford my car anymore so gave it up.....I dont have much money after bills to do anything let alone live in the lifestyle that some people on here think I am living.

I do agree that the welfare system needs an overhaul but to suggest food stamps and people to rely on charity is shocking.
How do you think people would feel having to do that....to be in that situation that unless they BEG for help, that they would not be able to feed their children?

In norway there is a limit on the length of time you can claim their equivilant to one parent family payment. But during that time every help is given to either further your education or help get your ready for work....amazing childcare is available.

Yes I do agree with the phasing in of a reduction in the length of time, exceptions to be well thought out and acceptable.
BUT....there needs to be a much better system in place than there is now to help and the government are YEARS away from being able to, I feel, even conceive that concept and come up with a plan.
he is a disgrace, but in the same time get a job and empower yourself
Nov 13, 2011 4:39 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
jaette
jaettejaetteaughrim, Wicklow Ireland4 Threads 142 Posts
fifitheminx: disgrace doesnt feed a child..

his mother does.
the taxpayer does
Nov 13, 2011 4:39 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
MarsMan
MarsManMarsManBobbing along, Cork Ireland29 Threads 8 Polls 981 Posts
kennyfromdublin: And people who argued that the property market would eventually crash were sneered at


Tell me about it, I was told several times, by several different people, to shut the F up, and that I knew F all during the boom years, when I happened to mention that bubbles tend to burst at some stage.

I don't blame people for following the advise of so called experts, hell even the IMF said Ireland's economy was brilliant during the boom.
Nov 13, 2011 4:40 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
fifitheminx: disgrace doesnt feed a child..

his mother does.


Or his/her parents do.

Or his/her father does.
Nov 13, 2011 4:41 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
MarsMan: Tell me about it, I was told several times, by several different people, to shut the F up, and that I knew F all during the boom years, when I happened to mention that bubbles tend to burst at some stage.

I don't blame people for following the advise of so called experts, hell even the IMF said Ireland's economy was brilliant during the boom.


My late mother who knew nothing about economics used to always say to me that the economy would eventually crash, I asked her Why, her reasoning was that "all booms eventually end up in tears throughout history".
Nov 13, 2011 4:42 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
fifitheminx
fifitheminxfifitheminxDublin, Ireland35 Threads 4,039 Posts
Mariannette: I have had a court ordered maintenance order for my sons father for the past 6 yrs......and I have received in total max 7 months payments and that was when it first came into effect. We were in court a few more times....each time he promised to pay...I even asked for the payment amount to be reduced when he became self employed.
Cue a 3 month custodial sentence being handed down 2 and a half years ago......I NEVER wanted that.....then the paperwork goes missing in between stations.....weeks and weeks pass and suddenly he is off living in another country the day before it appears.
Even though it is a court ordered agreement the courts wont go after it....even if he was still in the country.....I would have to take him to the small claims court.
I this year decided to see what I could do to claim for maintenance in the country he is living in...but they say since there is a maintenance here I have to go through our courts, yet our courts say they cant do anything either.

Do you think I want to be claiming benefits?
Do you think I got pregnant on my own...at 26yrs old....not 16.
Even now....I pay my bills....I couldnt afford my car anymore so gave it up.....I dont have much money after bills to do anything let alone live in the lifestyle that some people on here think I am living.

I do agree that the welfare system needs an overhaul but to suggest food stamps and people to rely on charity is shocking.
How do you think people would feel having to do that....to be in that situation that unless they BEG for help, that they would not be able to feed their children?

In norway there is a limit on the length of time you can claim their equivilant to one parent family payment. But during that time every help is given to either further your education or help get your ready for work....amazing childcare is available.

Yes I do agree with the phasing in of a reduction in the length of time, exceptions to be well thought out and acceptable.
BUT....there needs to be a much better system in place than there is now to help and the government are YEARS away from being able to, I feel, even conceive that concept and come up with a plan.


proof that there are also educated women raising the next generation...the generation who will be paying taxes to the coffers that will keep the lights on in the streets when we are old...

the children and their education and making sure they ALL have the same rights to a decent life is why that payment is there
Nov 13, 2011 4:42 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
womaniser
womaniserwomaniserblue balls, climax TY, Waterford Ireland8 Threads 152 Posts
kennyfromdublin: Was that not implemented by O'Cuiv where if someone turned down a job offer only their dole woule be cut by 25%, the cust don't include any other benefits.
im not sure, saw this on news tonight
Nov 13, 2011 4:46 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
fifitheminx: proof that there are also educated women raising the next generation...the generation who will be paying taxes to the coffers that will keep the lights on in the streets when we are old...

the children and their education and making sure they ALL have the same rights to a decent life is why that payment is there


As is Said before its the individual not the state who is responsible for their own personal wellbeing, also statistics have also come out that kids who come from unemployed single parent households are statistically more likely to end up unemployed themselves than kids who come from households where the single parent is working.
Nov 13, 2011 4:48 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
jaette: he is a disgrace, but in the same time get a job and empower yourself


Eh.....what makes you presume that I havent worked for most of the time since I had my son????

I have worked during which time I didnt claim...and at other times had my benefits reduced in line with my earnings.

Alas at the moment I am not working....I would love to be.
Find me one that I could actually take and I will do it.
Nov 13, 2011 4:50 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
Crazylegs
CrazylegsCrazylegsDublin, Ireland71 Threads 6,737 Posts
kennyfromdublin: As is Said before its the individual not the state who is responsible for their own personal wellbeing, also statistics have also come out that kids who come from unemployed single parent households are statistically more likely to end up unemployed themselves than kids who come from households where the single parent is working.


can you provide a link to that statistic????
Nov 13, 2011 4:50 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
fifitheminx
fifitheminxfifitheminxDublin, Ireland35 Threads 4,039 Posts
In response to: I was reading an article in todays Sunday Times that the govenment is considering reducing eligibility for the one parent family payment from 14 down to 7 for the youngest child to be phased in over a number of years, what do people think, personally I think it should be like America where single parents are legally obliged to look for work when the youngest child reaches three.


and the reasons for that.?

copycat...or lack of drive and ambition..coupled with education lacking..

many many factors..its not black and white at all..
Nov 13, 2011 4:51 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
jaette: OR the taxpayer does


Fixed it for you.

What the hell is wrong with peoiple tonight branding everyone the same doh
Nov 13, 2011 4:52 PM CST Single parent family payment been reduced to the age of 7 for the youngest child
SundanceWCork
SundanceWCorkSundanceWCorkCork, Ireland11 Threads 394 Posts
Mariannette: Alas at the moment I am not working....I would love to be. Find me one that I could actually take and I will do it.


Well you're a pretty girl so have you considered streetwalking? I hear there are plenty of openings there (pun intended). Oh wait you're in Dundalk you'd probably have the like of the 'Quar fella' turning up in his van, I can see how that would be offputting. Yeah, the dole's probably not that bad.
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