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jem1964: my Dad "retired" from butchering at 70, and a couple of weeks ago went to help some one cut up some meat.
He came home and said he couldnt understand it, ... he was exhausted.
We turned around and told him Dad you are now 81 years old and havent been working like that for a few years... He still reckons he can work like he always has.
I have seen people die soon after retiring as well, it is sad to thnk that work is such a large part of their life that they cannot see life without it
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it's called inactivity, going from active to morbid, your body just goes on you and your brain diesHe came home and said he couldnt understand it, ... he was exhausted.
We turned around and told him Dad you are now 81 years old and havent been working like that for a few years... He still reckons he can work like he always has.
I have seen people die soon after retiring as well, it is sad to thnk that work is such a large part of their life that they cannot see life without it
H
daggyone: it's called inactivity, going from active to morbid, your body just goes on you and your brain dies
my Dad has seldom been inactive, only when forced to be coz he hasnt been well. At 81 he is still walking around the block, still goes and checks the cows daily, does his garden and seeds, and other stuff as well.
It is just that he is no longer used to the intense activity of butchering anymore, any wonder after having a hip replacement at 80! His doctors all tried to talk him out of it but Dads version of it was if he couldnt get around there wasnt much use in being alive.
For others that retire and cant cope it s because there is nothing left in their life, that work was what made them complete. Not the things that should make you complete like family friends and living life.
jem1964: my Dad has seldom been inactive, only when forced to be coz he hasnt been well. At 81 he is still walking around the block, still goes and checks the cows daily, does his garden and seeds, and other stuff as well.
It is just that he is no longer used to the intense activity of butchering anymore, any wonder after having a hip replacement at 80! His doctors all tried to talk him out of it but Dads version of it was if he couldnt get around there wasnt much use in being alive.
For others that retire and cant cope it s because there is nothing left in their life, that work was what made them complete. Not the things that should make you complete like family friends and living life.
It is just that he is no longer used to the intense activity of butchering anymore, any wonder after having a hip replacement at 80! His doctors all tried to talk him out of it but Dads version of it was if he couldnt get around there wasnt much use in being alive.
For others that retire and cant cope it s because there is nothing left in their life, that work was what made them complete. Not the things that should make you complete like family friends and living life.
Jem, Just a guess based on the limited info you have given, but I would think your dad will be kicking when he hits the century mark...
My Dad was an office worker. Not very active to begin with...
jem1964: my Dad has seldom been inactive, only when forced to be coz he hasnt been well. At 81 he is still walking around the block, still goes and checks the cows daily, does his garden and seeds, and other stuff as well.
It is just that he is no longer used to the intense activity of butchering anymore, any wonder after having a hip replacement at 80! His doctors all tried to talk him out of it but Dads version of it was if he couldnt get around there wasnt much use in being alive.
For others that retire and cant cope it s because there is nothing left in their life, that work was what made them complete. Not the things that should make you complete like family friends and living life.
I think any guy that can live past 80yo is doing extremly wellIt is just that he is no longer used to the intense activity of butchering anymore, any wonder after having a hip replacement at 80! His doctors all tried to talk him out of it but Dads version of it was if he couldnt get around there wasnt much use in being alive.
For others that retire and cant cope it s because there is nothing left in their life, that work was what made them complete. Not the things that should make you complete like family friends and living life.
Arkayos: Jem, Just a guess based on the limited info you have given, but I would think your dad will be kicking when he hits the century mark...
My Dad was an office worker. Not very active to begin with...
My Dad was an office worker. Not very active to begin with...
Ah Arky, one of Dads feet has been on a banana skin for the last 5 or so years. He has had a heart attack, and some other health probs as well. Also he tried pretty hard to croak on them last year when they replaced his hip. I hope to have him for a few more years yet though
He is just one of those people that tries to be as active as he can.
a lot of it is will to live, or in the case of some, the will not to live
jem1964: Ah Arky, one of Dads feet has been on a banana skin for the last 5 or so years. He has had a heart attack, and some other health probs as well. Also he tried pretty hard to croak on them last year when they replaced his hip. I hope to have him for a few more years yet though
He is just one of those people that tries to be as active as he can.
a lot of it is will to live, or in the case of some, the will not to live
He is just one of those people that tries to be as active as he can.
a lot of it is will to live, or in the case of some, the will not to live
My maternal grandad had a heart attack at 52 (an age I am approaching
) He had multiple heart attacks after that, and a stroke at 82. We lost him at 96... Don't count your dad out too quick...jem1964: Ah Arky, one of Dads feet has been on a banana skin for the last 5 or so years. He has had a heart attack, and some other health probs as well. Also he tried pretty hard to croak on them last year when they replaced his hip. I hope to have him for a few more years yet though
He is just one of those people that tries to be as active as he can.
a lot of it is will to live, or in the case of some, the will not to live
i've been so lucky with my parents, my dad passed away at 88 and my mum is still going strong at nearly 91.i'm the eldest of 9 kids and they both worked hard to give us all a better lifeHe is just one of those people that tries to be as active as he can.
a lot of it is will to live, or in the case of some, the will not to live
daggyone: Going by your waisteline at the meet, you may need to walk off a few of those extra beers if you want to make 70yo
Gee your a cheeky sod.
be careful, be very very careful Wash knows where you are
scotchy: i've been so lucky with my parents, my dad passed away at 88 and my mum is still going strong at nearly 91.i'm the eldest of 9 kids and they both worked hard to give us all a better life
seems you and Jem both have farming parents, this may be the key to a longer life, I'm thinking I should take up farming?
jem1964: Ah Arky, one of Dads feet has been on a banana skin for the last 5 or so years. He has had a heart attack, and some other health probs as well. Also he tried pretty hard to croak on them last year when they replaced his hip. I hope to have him for a few more years yet though
He is just one of those people that tries to be as active as he can.
a lot of it is will to live, or in the case of some, the will not to live
He is just one of those people that tries to be as active as he can.
a lot of it is will to live, or in the case of some, the will not to live
Ive had to battle to save my mother 3 times, when l lost my son, when l lost my boyfriend of 4 years and when she lost a very dear friend. My son was 6 years ago and the other two in the last 18 months. She just gave in and went a severe bout of depression and didnt want to eat, due to that she got a very bad case of shingles. Ive had to fight so hard to get her back. Its been one long hard fight for the last 6 years and the last 18 months have been even worse and lm still having to force her to eat enough. So l know what your saying about the will not to live. Somedays l feel l like l dont have the strength to keep fighting for her but l always find it. She openly admits lm the only reason she is still with us today as l refuse to let her give up.
Probably, very likely, I think comes from thinking of ones self, if your mother redirected her mind towards benefiting others, develop motivation towards helping others she wouldn't be dwelling in her own unhappiness...
robplum: Probably, very likely, I think comes from thinking of ones self, if your mother redirected her mind towards benefiting others, develop motivation towards helping others she wouldn't be dwelling in her own unhappiness...
My mum has had a very hard life which started with an abusive mother, then a abusive husband and then a playboy partner who was cheating on her while she nearly died having my sister and thiers more which l wont go into. Sometimes a person can only take so much Rob. Your not telling me anything l know she dwells to much on it but all of the fight has been taken out of her, so now l fight for her.
Faithe: Ive had to battle to save my mother 3 times, when l lost my son, when l lost my boyfriend of 4 years and when she lost a very dear friend. My son was 6 years ago and the other two in the last 18 months. She just gave in and went a severe bout of depression and didnt want to eat, due to that she got a very bad case of shingles. Ive had to fight so hard to get her back. Its been one long hard fight for the last 6 years and the last 18 months have been even worse and lm still having to force her to eat enough. So l know what your saying about the will not to live. Somedays l feel l like l dont have the strength to keep fighting for her but l always find it. She openly admits lm the only reason she is still with us today as l refuse to let her give up.
hugs Faithe, I can imagine it hasnt been easy.
If your Mum is still troubled by the shingles or shingle pain try giving her L-Lysine available from the health food shop. This is the only thing that helps me as I wasnt given the anti-viral within 72 hours. Start her off on two a day and hopefully after a week or two she will noticed a difference. Then down to one for about a month. After that just have a bottle in the cupboard for the times they start tingling again
Yes i understand but the unhappiness is in her mind, in your mothers mind, only your mother can change that. Much as you try in supporting her as i am sure you are, the way to bring more happiness to our lives is to stop dwelling on self by redirecting our thoughts towards benefiting others.
The nature of life for all of us is suffering to one degree or another life experience is suffering.
Having expectations others will live longer lives than they have merit to live, often husbands, wives, boyfriends girlfriends brothers and sisters or others will act in a way other than we had hoped they would; comes from our own expectations. Expectations from our own side, which are often unrealistic. Time and time again we feel let down by others simply because in our own minds we create of unrealistic expectations.
As everyone one actually in general trying to obtain happiness for themselves from outside themselves
The nature of life for all of us is suffering to one degree or another life experience is suffering.
Having expectations others will live longer lives than they have merit to live, often husbands, wives, boyfriends girlfriends brothers and sisters or others will act in a way other than we had hoped they would; comes from our own expectations. Expectations from our own side, which are often unrealistic. Time and time again we feel let down by others simply because in our own minds we create of unrealistic expectations.
As everyone one actually in general trying to obtain happiness for themselves from outside themselves
robplum: Yes i understand but the unhappiness is in her mind, in your mothers mind, only your mother can change that. Much as you try in supporting her as i am sure you are, the way to bring more happiness to our lives is to stop dwelling on self by redirecting our thoughts towards benefiting others.
The nature of life for all of us is suffering to one degree or another life experience is suffering.
Having expectations others will live longer lives than they have merit to live, often husbands, wives, boyfriends girlfriends brothers and sisters or others will act in a way other than we had hoped they would; comes from our own expectations. Expectations from our own side, which are often unrealistic. Time and time again we feel let down by others simply because in our own minds we create of unrealistic expectations.
As everyone one actually in general trying to obtain happiness for themselves from outside themselves
The nature of life for all of us is suffering to one degree or another life experience is suffering.
Having expectations others will live longer lives than they have merit to live, often husbands, wives, boyfriends girlfriends brothers and sisters or others will act in a way other than we had hoped they would; comes from our own expectations. Expectations from our own side, which are often unrealistic. Time and time again we feel let down by others simply because in our own minds we create of unrealistic expectations.
As everyone one actually in general trying to obtain happiness for themselves from outside themselves
Rob that is all easier said than done, every person is different and they cope differently. I bet thier is still stuff you dwell or wont let go and therfore cant help but dwell on.
Of course there is, however i trying to share with you another angle on actually helping your mother to over come the constant suffering in her mind, not put you down or reinforce her suffering, rather offer another way of approaching assisting your mother to enjoy her life rather than more and more of the same misery
jem1964: my Dad has seldom been inactive, only when forced to be coz he hasnt been well. At 81 he is still walking around the block, still goes and checks the cows daily, does his garden and seeds, and other stuff as well.
It is just that he is no longer used to the intense activity of butchering anymore, any wonder after having a hip replacement at 80! His doctors all tried to talk him out of it but Dads version of it was if he couldnt get around there wasnt much use in being alive.
For others that retire and cant cope it s because there is nothing left in their life, that work was what made them complete. Not the things that should make you complete like family friends and living life.
It is just that he is no longer used to the intense activity of butchering anymore, any wonder after having a hip replacement at 80! His doctors all tried to talk him out of it but Dads version of it was if he couldnt get around there wasnt much use in being alive.
For others that retire and cant cope it s because there is nothing left in their life, that work was what made them complete. Not the things that should make you complete like family friends and living life.
Morning Jem your dad rocks
He has the meaning of life it's called positive thinking whoohoo! 
It’s a responsibility all of us have to train our minds that our negative emotions can be dispelled and eliminated. Since negative emotions are states of mind, the method or technique for overcoming them must be developed from within; they cannot be removed by some external technique, like a surgical operation.
The causes of our sufferings are delusion, ignorance, and the self-cherishing thought, and in relation to those, anger and attachment arise.
To think otherwise is stupidity, a complete waist of this precious human experience
The causes of our sufferings are delusion, ignorance, and the self-cherishing thought, and in relation to those, anger and attachment arise.
To think otherwise is stupidity, a complete waist of this precious human experience
robplum: Of course there is, however i trying to share with you another angle on actually helping your mother to over come the constant suffering in her mind, not put you down or reinforce her suffering, rather offer another way of approaching assisting your mother to enjoy her life rather than more and more of the same misery
And dont you think l try that Rob, l do it every day, l always tell her she should be thinking about the things she can still do and who she still has in her life instead of dwelling on what she cant do and whom she hasnt got in her life anymore. Believe me when l say l have tried every approach and l must be doing something right because even her Dr is surprised that she is still around and has said he relizes lm the only reason that is the case.
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That (and a couple other trama's that year) made me retire (aproaching my 39th birthday) and sail away to see the world.
Now, like you, I drink and chase bad women (are there good ones? and haven't managed to catch any in way too long)I don't smoke because I think you have to be selective about your vices...
my Dad "retired" from butchering at 70, and a couple of weeks ago went to help some one cut up some meat.
He came home and said he couldnt understand it, ... he was exhausted.
We turned around and told him Dad you are now 81 years old and havent been working like that for a few years... He still reckons he can work like he always has.
I have seen people die soon after retiring as well, it is sad to thnk that work is such a large part of their life that they cannot see life without it
H