Is America A Third World Nation? (131)
BebeIIConcordville, Pennsylvania USA23 Threads 1,965 Postsarmandoalejandro: Maybe the time is coming to ask ourselves about our economical and political system. A system with 1% big bosses owning 70% of everything, must have something wrong in itself. Of course it is easyer to look responsabilities in the "poor people", easyer then asking how it could be. There are 3 millions persons in jail. Rich people are living in Condos with private police all around. The educational american budget it is smaller then the animal protection society. I think something is wrong here.
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ttom500: Yes of course the US is a third world nation with space launches and man on the moon walks, 3 auto firms, 12 battle carrier fleets, 2000 combat aircraft, 1000 satellite in orbit, 2000 battle tanks and personal carriers, 1000+ ICBM and nuclear tipped cruise missiles, 1/10th of all the gold ever mined in the history of the world in its faults, 10000 commercial aircraft in the air on a given day, a Constitution that has overseen the peaceful exchange of power for 46 consectitive 6 year administrations, 308m people with a diverse background of cultures, races and religions....not to forget....Disney World and Disney land. But of course the US is a third world country.......
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BebeII: Hi TTom, good to see you're still fighting the left wing narrative!
BebeII...threads like this are like shooting clay pidgeons that are the size of a basketballs........
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Albertaghost: I frequently go to bed without supper myself. And, often miss breakfast lunch and supper. It means nothing about poverty but rather allocation of money, budgets and not taking advantage of government programs.
Any idea as to how many Americans died of starvation each year for the reason there were no food or programs available to feed them that last meal that could have saved their life?
And nobody reported you and removed you from your home so that you could be properly cared for? The programs are there,
Anybody without a home is homeless. If you or anybody else is starving they need only to access the proper agency to find help.
And, lots and lots of bogus fake poverty as well. For example, you bring up starvation and hunger. How many people died of starvation in the US last year because there were no alternatives or food available to them in any way shape or form from any agency they had access to?
Here is an article about famine. It does not mention any US famine yet, does go into details about the seventy million odd deaths due to hunger around the globe though.
I imagine any one of those dead wold have given their right arm to have a government that when one was starving, they need only report themselves to the police, social services, children's aid or any of a number of local charities such a food banks etc. However, they didn't for the simple reason that unlike the in the US, nothing of the sort exists in "3rd World Countries", some of which are depicted in the article.
Any idea as to how many Americans died of starvation each year for the reason there were no food or programs available to feed them that last meal that could have saved their life?
And nobody reported you and removed you from your home so that you could be properly cared for? The programs are there,
Anybody without a home is homeless. If you or anybody else is starving they need only to access the proper agency to find help.
And, lots and lots of bogus fake poverty as well. For example, you bring up starvation and hunger. How many people died of starvation in the US last year because there were no alternatives or food available to them in any way shape or form from any agency they had access to?
Here is an article about famine. It does not mention any US famine yet, does go into details about the seventy million odd deaths due to hunger around the globe though.
I imagine any one of those dead wold have given their right arm to have a government that when one was starving, they need only report themselves to the police, social services, children's aid or any of a number of local charities such a food banks etc. However, they didn't for the simple reason that unlike the in the US, nothing of the sort exists in "3rd World Countries", some of which are depicted in the article.
Only about 5 kms; in an area called Forest Lawn; there are kids that go without meals most of the time as families simply can't afford food on a daily basis and to pay for a roof over their head. The agencies do what they can but they are overcrowded and do turn people away. I know when it gets really cold at -20 or -40; they will open up some abandoned buildings to help the homeless but the rest of the year; people are living on the streets. Quite a few come here to Calgary from other provinces just so they can get a job but the over inflated pricing of housing and apartments makes them homeless. There are many Calgarians struggling just to put food on the table, pay their rent, and their utilities. Just to rent a one bedroom apartment; you need to make $36,000.00 a year and most here just don't make that kind of money. I read the tripe that the media prints but going down to volunteer in places like the Drop In Centres and Mustard Seed paint a completely different picture. Although un-employment has dropped; so has the wages while inflation has risen dramatically. Most people don't make enough money to offest the cost of living.
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single4ever: homeless but the rest of the year; people are living on the streets. Quite a few come here to Calgary from other provinces just so they can get a job but the over inflated pricing of housing and apartments makes them homeless. There are many Calgarians struggling just to put food on the table, pay their rent, and their utilities. Just to rent a one bedroom apartment; you need to make $36,000.00 a year and most here just don't make that kind of money. I read the tripe that the media prints but going down to volunteer in places like the Drop In Centres and Mustard Seed paint a completely different picture. Although un-employment has dropped; so has the wages while inflation has risen dramatically. Most people don't make enough money to offest the cost of living.
Why on earth anybody would attempt to get a low paying job in one of the most expensive places to live in the country while a half hour away good paying work and lower rent and often free accommodations are available is beyond me. Some people just need the city I suppose.
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Albertaghost: Sure they did however, homelessness in California being less than one tenth of a percent with umpteen NGOs and government agencies to help out is a far cry from ten to fifty percent with no help whatsoever in third world countries.
If 10 percent qualifies us as a third world nation... we're on our way there.
You throw out numbers in percentages, like they aren't that bad; but those numbers are easy to juggle so it doesn't sound so bad... thae fact is, according to the source you posted, there are millions of homeless children, who are not getting any food; or help,,, in California alone, that's not even counting the other 49 states!
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You have poverty in every country of the world today. Some have higher rates of poverty than others.
You can find poverty in Belfast, Ireland. In Bejing, China. In Paris, France. In Tehran, Iran. In Moscow, Russia. And if you looked into the rural areas of those countries, you would find it there as well.
BUT............
Being the sole remeaning "Super Power" of the World.....means that poverty has to be eliminated in the US....for it to really hold that title. Else it is a 'unfair society' and needs to altered and changed to image of the world's opinion.
The US got the title "Super Power" when there was poverty in the country and poverty in the world. Fewer people in the US die of malnuitrition than any other place in the world. They die here because too much food. Obseity caused by to much food. But I cannot remember when a person died of malnutrition in the US. It has been that long.
What you are unhappy about....is the Capitolist model of the United States has worked so well the last 100 years. To make this country one of the most prosperious, if not the single most prosperous country in the world.
Today....because it is liberally ideologic fassionable to be aligned ....with Palestines, the Chinese, the communists, the anarchist of the world....that hate the free entreprise and capitolist model of the United States...threads like this get posted for ideological gamemanship.
Fine.....
When those countries and groups.....show that they no deaths to malnutrition...I will say they have become a "fair society"
Just tell me when it happens.....
You can find poverty in Belfast, Ireland. In Bejing, China. In Paris, France. In Tehran, Iran. In Moscow, Russia. And if you looked into the rural areas of those countries, you would find it there as well.
BUT............
Being the sole remeaning "Super Power" of the World.....means that poverty has to be eliminated in the US....for it to really hold that title. Else it is a 'unfair society' and needs to altered and changed to image of the world's opinion.
The US got the title "Super Power" when there was poverty in the country and poverty in the world. Fewer people in the US die of malnuitrition than any other place in the world. They die here because too much food. Obseity caused by to much food. But I cannot remember when a person died of malnutrition in the US. It has been that long.
What you are unhappy about....is the Capitolist model of the United States has worked so well the last 100 years. To make this country one of the most prosperious, if not the single most prosperous country in the world.
Today....because it is liberally ideologic fassionable to be aligned ....with Palestines, the Chinese, the communists, the anarchist of the world....that hate the free entreprise and capitolist model of the United States...threads like this get posted for ideological gamemanship.
Fine.....
When those countries and groups.....show that they no deaths to malnutrition...I will say they have become a "fair society"
Just tell me when it happens.....
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anonymous1: If 10 percent qualifies us as a third world nation... we're on our way there.
Yep. Only a hundred times that to go so not even close!
anonymous1: You throw out numbers in percentages, like they aren't that bad; but those numbers are easy to juggle so it doesn't sound so bad... thae fact is, according to the source you posted, there are millions of homeless children, who are not getting any food; or help,,, in California alone, that's not even counting the other 49 states!
Nope. Read the source again and, the numbers. You're a few decimal places off.
As per juggling stuff, a 'third world nation?'
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In response to: Could very well be so,at least according to Newser/NY Times...
Of course,Americans,just like Europeans are extremely happy about this development,after all,we owe everyone everything,not the opposite....
Doesn´t matter if 1/3 are living under,or close to the poverty line,-all that matters,that we´re nice and human,-and show solidarity....
So,hand on heart,how did the mighty USA,(according to this article),become a third world nation,(or close)?
A wild guess,-the "melting pot",-turned out to be a melt´n´rot!
Maybe I´m wrong,but I have a feeling,this "pot",originally was a European one....
I could be wrong however,-but something tells me I´m not...
So,-again,I might be wrong,-but there has to be a reason,-why 1/3 of Americans live under the poverty line!
Let´s see,could it be because of European/S.Asian immigration,or because of Third world immigration,the same lovely and enriching one,that´s hitting Europe...
There´s reasons to everything,and there´s a reason,why 33% of Americans are considered poor....But what can it be?http://www.newser.com/story/133689/1-in-3-americans-poor-or-near-poor.html
Of course,Americans,just like Europeans are extremely happy about this development,after all,we owe everyone everything,not the opposite....
Doesn´t matter if 1/3 are living under,or close to the poverty line,-all that matters,that we´re nice and human,-and show solidarity....
So,hand on heart,how did the mighty USA,(according to this article),become a third world nation,(or close)?
A wild guess,-the "melting pot",-turned out to be a melt´n´rot!
Maybe I´m wrong,but I have a feeling,this "pot",originally was a European one....
I could be wrong however,-but something tells me I´m not...
So,-again,I might be wrong,-but there has to be a reason,-why 1/3 of Americans live under the poverty line!
Let´s see,could it be because of European/S.Asian immigration,or because of Third world immigration,the same lovely and enriching one,that´s hitting Europe...
There´s reasons to everything,and there´s a reason,why 33% of Americans are considered poor....But what can it be?http://www.newser.com/story/133689/1-in-3-americans-poor-or-near-poor.html
America is not presently a third world nation. But has come to saturation on it's life-cycle given the "cycle" it chose in the last century. Has made too many enemies and probably has no natural allies left.
USA activities outside it's boundaries are cannibalising it's domestic health. Something that can not continue for long.
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maxmate1: America is not presently a third world nation. But has come to saturation on it's life-cycle given the "cycle" it chose in the last century. Has made too many enemies and probably has no natural allies left.
USA activities outside it's boundaries are cannibalising it's domestic health. Something that can not continue for long.
USA activities outside it's boundaries are cannibalising it's domestic health. Something that can not continue for long.
Strange. The NYT in this article says only one in six live in poverty. A figure too high anyhow but we should at least attempt to identify the figures prior to going further.
""WASHINGTON — Another 2.6 million people slipped into poverty in the United States last year, the Census Bureau reported Tuesday, and the number of Americans living below the official poverty line, 46.2 million people, was the highest number in the 52 years the bureau has been publishing figures on it. ""
As well, the poverty rate in the UAe is 19.5% according to Nationmaster while the US is at 12%.
According to the above the world average is 31.5%.
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maxmate1: America is not presently a third world nation. But has come to saturation on it's life-cycle given the "cycle" it chose in the last century. Has made too many enemies and probably has no natural allies left.
USA activities outside it's boundaries are cannibalising it's domestic health. Something that can not continue for long.
USA activities outside it's boundaries are cannibalising it's domestic health. Something that can not continue for long.
With our own internal resources developing....like the Shale oil fields....why do we want natural allies of the middle east (Other than Israel were we have a close spiritual bond) that send groups of terrorist to kill us?
If that is being a ally, then we don't need them.
But other the hand....with the middle east racing to become nuclear...
seems many theere like the idea of a United States presence, anti missile defense systems, and other advanced defensive military technologies.
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Rumors is that the US is very active presently in making up a new American Strategic Security Group with countries from South America and North America....like...Brazil, Mexico, Argentina, Canada, Panama.
Which means.....we can cut our chords to the security arrangements in the middle east and NATO and SEATO....if need be.
Which means.....we can cut our chords to the security arrangements in the middle east and NATO and SEATO....if need be.
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No, no and no again
America (regardless of still being in ICU) is still way ahead of the pack!
America (regardless of still being in ICU) is still way ahead of the pack!
AtwoZ: Could very well be so,at least according to Newser/NY Times...
Of course,Americans,just like Europeans are extremely happy about this development,after all,we owe everyone everything,not the opposite....
Doesn´t matter if 1/3 are living under,or close to the poverty line,-all that matters,that we´re nice and human,-and show solidarity....
So,hand on heart,how did the mighty USA,(according to this article),become a third world nation,(or close)?
A wild guess,-the "melting pot",-turned out to be a melt´n´rot!
Maybe I´m wrong,but I have a feeling,this "pot",originally was a European one....
I could be wrong however,-but something tells me I´m not...
So,-again,I might be wrong,-but there has to be a reason,-why 1/3 of Americans live under the poverty line!
Let´s see,could it be because of European/S.Asian immigration,or because of Third world immigration,the same lovely and enriching one,that´s hitting Europe...
There´s reasons to everything,and there´s a reason,why 33% of Americans are considered poor....But what can it be?http://www.newser.com/story/133689/1-in-3-americans-poor-or-near-poor.html
Of course,Americans,just like Europeans are extremely happy about this development,after all,we owe everyone everything,not the opposite....
Doesn´t matter if 1/3 are living under,or close to the poverty line,-all that matters,that we´re nice and human,-and show solidarity....
So,hand on heart,how did the mighty USA,(according to this article),become a third world nation,(or close)?
A wild guess,-the "melting pot",-turned out to be a melt´n´rot!
Maybe I´m wrong,but I have a feeling,this "pot",originally was a European one....
I could be wrong however,-but something tells me I´m not...
So,-again,I might be wrong,-but there has to be a reason,-why 1/3 of Americans live under the poverty line!
Let´s see,could it be because of European/S.Asian immigration,or because of Third world immigration,the same lovely and enriching one,that´s hitting Europe...
There´s reasons to everything,and there´s a reason,why 33% of Americans are considered poor....But what can it be?http://www.newser.com/story/133689/1-in-3-americans-poor-or-near-poor.html
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Albertaghost: Yep. Only a hundred times that to go so not even close!
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There is the extent of your denial... you won't accept the US is a third world nation... until 100 times 10 percent of the population is broke.
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anonymous1: .
There is the extent of your denial... you won't accept the US is a third world nation... until 100 times 10 percent of the population is broke.
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Damn,your Math is impeccable!There is the extent of your denial... you won't accept the US is a third world nation... until 100 times 10 percent of the population is broke.
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Conrad73: Damn,your Math is impeccable!
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no health service
no money to live on with only one job
goes to war on anyone without being able to pay for it
has no respect from most of the world
yes its considered a third world country
no money to live on with only one job
goes to war on anyone without being able to pay for it
has no respect from most of the world
yes its considered a third world country
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Conrad73: Damn,your Math is impeccable!
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I said, if 10 percent is third world, we're on our way there.
Albert said, 100 times that...
The math wasn't mine, I just quoted the numbers Albert was using.
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Is the US a third world country?
No its not, though it's headed that way
though the worm has now turned, it has lessons to learn
Haiti was not built in a day
Ask again when the old dreams have faded
when the cars are all 20 years old
when the children are working in sweatshops
when the homes lie unheated and cold
When the business execs are all Asian
and the local regime serves their will
when top restaurants exclude all caucasians
out of fear that they won't pay their bill
When pretty young girls by the thousands
are recruited as "models" abroad
but they all disappear and it goes on for years
for officials are in on the fraud
When we see foreign troops in our cities
and they act as if they rule the land
and they push us around without pity
when their orders we can't understand
Though the west is financially hopeless
and is destined these lessons to learn
at the moment it's naught but a novice
third world status has yet to be earned
No its not, though it's headed that way
though the worm has now turned, it has lessons to learn
Haiti was not built in a day
Ask again when the old dreams have faded
when the cars are all 20 years old
when the children are working in sweatshops
when the homes lie unheated and cold
When the business execs are all Asian
and the local regime serves their will
when top restaurants exclude all caucasians
out of fear that they won't pay their bill
When pretty young girls by the thousands
are recruited as "models" abroad
but they all disappear and it goes on for years
for officials are in on the fraud
When we see foreign troops in our cities
and they act as if they rule the land
and they push us around without pity
when their orders we can't understand
Though the west is financially hopeless
and is destined these lessons to learn
at the moment it's naught but a novice
third world status has yet to be earned
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keep laughing 1%
but remember that when you create poverty, what you're really doing is creating a vast red army that will someday rise up and dance in your blood
the left is going to rise in a big way soon, and then we'll all be in trouble
but remember that when you create poverty, what you're really doing is creating a vast red army that will someday rise up and dance in your blood
the left is going to rise in a big way soon, and then we'll all be in trouble
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