Albertaghost: I concur. Leaving NK to wonder how they will build a seriously deliverable weapon.
Not sure if you follow NK much, but they had one of their weapons parade recently to celebrate 100yrs birth of the 'Great leader'. lol Anyways, some clever people decided to inspect the footage and stills from the parade and most concluded that their mobile Missile Launchers were mockups themselves.
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MADDOG69: Not sure if you follow NK much, but they had one of their weapons parade recently to celebrate 100yrs birth of the 'Great leader'. lol Anyways, some clever people decided to inspect the footage and stills from the parade and most concluded that their mobile Missile Launchers were mockups themselves.
Similar to the May Day parades In Moscow. I'd like to get a link for that. Was it an intel site or general news?
Thanks. NK is one of the worlds largest militaries with SK far weaker and, the beneficiary of much of it's blustering. The missiles may be fake but the boots they can put into gear are not.
MADDOG69: I'd say Iran knows very well how to build one. It's the fuel they are short of. We don't know about the physical size of NK nukes. The way nuclear weapons development works is 1st you design the weapons. 2nd test it. And 3rly (very important) Miniaturize it so it can actually fit on a warhead. No-one knows if NK has miniaturized it. The bomb they tested might have been as big as a house. That's not a weapon.
Selling a bomb is unlikely. Selling Weapons grade fuel... IS more likely. ;)
So NK sells the weapon grade fuel and Iran makes its nucs. Nk sold Iran both the P-2 and the P-3 centrifuge enrichment systems. And NK used those centrifuges to enrich to weapon grade isotopes. NK has sold Iran the delivery system as well.
So NK has little history and reason not to aid Iran to nuclear arm. It has a lot of reason to help Iran to arm.....it is called $s
ooby_dooby: I wouldn't be surprised if the US has battle plans for lots of countries. That's just advanced planning in case we're attacted. The same can be said for many other countries Israel, Japan, Russia, China, just to name a few. That doesn't mean anybody is going to attact somebody else just for jollies. The American people are sick up to their eyeballs with war esp a war in the middle east. If anybody was primed to attack Iran it's Israel. I'm pretty sure that Israel was persuaded to back off by the US in favor of giving sanctions a chance to work. We don't have the same lame crew in power that we had in 2001 to 2008.
AtwoZ: So maybe,the Iranian way,without Mullahs and clerics,is the way to go,-liberalism,has proven wrong.....,look where we ended up....
Not it isn't. Ahmadinejad's rule is about as socialist as Chavez's in economic terms. He'll be the ruin of Iran one way or the other.
Within Iran, the nuclear issue is not a divisive matter. Never was. The opposition protests that took place when he was elected were more concerned about his almost 'Baathist' policies.
MADDOG69: Not it isn't. Ahmadinejad's rule is about as socialist as Chavez's in economic terms. He'll be the ruin of Iran one way or the other.
Within Iran, the nuclear issue is not a divisive matter. Never was. The opposition protests that took place when he was elected were more concerned about his almost 'Baathist' policies.
"Ruin"?Because of sanctions?
But,again,-liberal crap Western democracy has/is proven wrong,-so maybe,just maybe...it´s time to start to look for something new....
I don´t doubt,that Iran will,like so many times before,-lead us onto the right path,-minus the religious issue(s)...
Boban1: Why on earth have we lost the feeling for right and wrong...hereby we are condemning the common folks of a entire country so that a group of people can get richer
check this out and tell me ,why can`t the west just let them live in their own way
Not overly impressed with the video but I personally think there is far too much interference from countries in others affairs. One country or a group of countries telling another they can't have nuclear weapons just sounds like bullying in another form. Let them at it I say.
vinny1967: Not overly impressed with the video but I personally think there is far too much interference from countries in others affairs. One country or a group of countries telling another they can't have nuclear weapons just sounds like bullying in another form. Let them at it I say.
Its about controlling the market and the prices as well as controlling the economic development
ooby_dooby: They can't sell it due to sanctions, and they are running out of places to store it. They can't stop pumping it or the oil will soak back down into the earth making it much harder to get in the future.
I think it's time for another revolution in Iran to kick their misguided rulers out of power and join the rest of the world in harmony. It's a shame that the Iranian people have to suffer under these worthless pig headed dictators whos only goal is to get an atomic bomb they couldn't even use without being wiped off the planet.
Question - so how do other countries shut down oil production - is it fact that they "can't stop pumping it?" and if that is true how does that lead to nuclear annililation?
JeanKimberley: Question - so how do other countries shut down oil production - is it fact that they "can't stop pumping it?" and if that is true how does that lead to nuclear annililation?
I was repeating what was said in the article. Not being an oil man I was unaware that this is a problem with oil wells. Life is a school isn't it? The goal is to prevent countries that place a higher priority on death than on life acquiring the means to snuff out large numbers of innocent people along with themselves. Relying on some sense of a will to live where none exists is foolhardy to the extreme. No rational person wants to get into an unnecessary war but when faced with a suicidal religeous zealot you use whatever means short of war to change the path they are on.
JeanKimberley: Question - so how do other countries shut down oil production - is it fact that they "can't stop pumping it?" and if that is true how does that lead to nuclear annililation?
I will give it go. You fill the well with concrete. Once the pump is removed, oil will seep to the surface. Oil fields have a internal field pressure that will cause this. So? You pore a concrete down in the shaft of the well to plug it.
So as Iranian oil sanctions take a bigger bite. Iran has the choice to shut down producing wells by filling them. Or let them seep oil up.
Each one they shut down and concrete, will cost millions to replace. So it not just the lost of oil revenues. But lost of oil production that Iran faces.
--- Side issue but connected to Iran.
A US National Security Advisor....unnamed.....has said that Iran has enough weapon grade nuclear materials for 5 nuclear bombs. Iran has stepped up processing the last several years.
But if this is accurate. This is the first time Iran has produced nuclear materials past the 20% Low Enrichment (LEU)level....and into the high enriched uranium (HEU) 99% enrichment levels that are needed for nuclear devices.
This is all occurring as the IAEA and Iran are close to a agreement for letting inspectors into the country. Whether Iran will walk the inspectors to were these HEU nuclear isotopes for making a bomb is. I some how doubt.
As President Ahmenajada has recently said "Nuclear bombs are not part of Islam".
So?
Either the US National Security Advisor has some inside intell on Iran's nuclear program. The kind of intell that President Ahmenajada totally denies. And if the IAEA inspector do get in.....do they begin to search for these existing HEU materials....and will Iran let them. If Iran does and they find them....what then?
or
Do we have a another Iraq WMD situation developing in the world?
One day, sometime in the near future (I Hope) that America might actually get real news channels instead of the drivel spouting, propaganda driven, big business, fantasy networks that pass almost without contradiction or regulation as media outlets.
When this happens people JUST might begin to realize how badly they have been misinformed in the interest of big business, or put simply MONEY.
Maddog69 is absolutely correct the price of oil is purely in the hands of the speculators.
Perhaps rather than gloat about the power of sanctions, you might just for one moment be human and consider the little Guy with the big family in Iran or NK who couldn't give a HOOT about you and your HARMONY, but rather worries about feeding his children and whether or not his family will survive.
ttom500: I will give it go. You fill the well with concrete. Once the pump is removed, oil will seep to the surface. Oil fields have a internal field pressure that will cause this. So? You pore a concrete down in the shaft of the well to plug it.
Do we have a another Iraq WMD situation developing in the world?
How this stuff works - I don't know? I remember the problem they we had with the Gulf coast after the oil company, what was their name (?) - project "deep water horizon" poured all that oil - for days.... still we are suffering for that.
didn't we just get a newly appointed inspector - we shall see... I wish we would "play nice" in the world sandbox.
It's all connected and been manipulated into place exactly where we are right now... clarity is or can be the beginning of change. We do outnumber them you know.
Just goes to show you eh...You can have all the resources in the world but if the world wont do business its not doing you any good. The way to any nations heart is through their economy now.
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If I was Iran and I needed to speed things up a bit, I'd buy the weapons grade fuel and put it into my own bomb.
I concur. Leaving NK to wonder how they will build a seriously deliverable weapon.