Why are NZ Navy ships banned from Pearl Harbour? (222)
Bluefish22: Considering you havn't voiced an opinion, except to agree with Alberta's, who is of the same as mine, I don't see how you can agree to disagree.
Glad you agree that ""your country snubbed the entire US Navy then you attempted to turn the blame around on this thread when the US only tries to assist your sailors in being kept from those pesky nuclear ships you don't want in your waters despite wishing to be part of the organization.""
Thanks for finally seeing the light!
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Albertaghost: Glad you agree that ""your country snubbed the entire US Navy then you attempted to turn the blame around on this thread when the US only tries to assist your sailors in being kept from those pesky nuclear ships you don't want in your waters despite wishing to be part of the organization.""
Thanks for finally seeing the light!
Thanks for finally seeing the light!
USA is so "KIND" to "ASSIST" everyone. Even when it's debt crises and financial problems are so much. Even when it's foriegn debt is HUGE and it owes money. Instead of paying back and focussing on it's own contry, it proudly "LIBERTES" innocent people in suffering from their lives and "HELPS" them "RELIEVE" their sufferings. So kind is US that it proudly CHNAGES REGIMES, BOMBS poeple, and is always at WAR with one country or another. WOW!
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Bluefish22: ...Sooooo, is the US still snubbing us because of our Nuclear Free policy? Bit petty isn't it?
Love us, love our WMDs.
How else can we protect you from those guys with box cutters?
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maxmate1: USA is so "KIND" to "ASSIST" everyone. Even when it's debt crises and financial problems are so much. Even when it's foriegn debt is HUGE and it owes money. Instead of paying back and focussing on it's own contry, it proudly "LIBERATES" innocent people from suffering in their lives...So kind is the US that it proudly CHNAGES REGIMES, BOMBS poeple, and is always at WAR with one country or another. WOW!
Glad to see you appreciate our efforts.
You'd be amazed at the way some people resent being "shock and awed".
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RayfromUSA: Glad to see you appreciate our efforts.
You'd be amazed at the way some people resent being "shock and awed".
You'd be amazed at the way some people resent being "shock and awed".
Since you dislike what the USA represents in your mind, Ray, why do you even bother to relate to it in your CS username?
I can be wrong but I recall Einstein once said, if you don't like the good that's going on in the planet, RayfromUSA, why don't you leave it.
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Bluefish22: Stereotyping is a form of ignorance.
That's why its so popular.
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maxmate1: USA is so "KIND" to "ASSIST" everyone. Even when it's debt crises and financial problems are so much. Even when it's foriegn debt is HUGE and it owes money. Instead of paying back and focussing on it's own contry, it proudly "LIBERTES" innocent people in suffering from their lives and "HELPS" them "RELIEVE" their sufferings. So kind is US that it proudly CHNAGES REGIMES, BOMBS poeple, and is always at WAR with one country or another. WOW!
If you will note Max, the US does not deliberately liberate people as an end but rather takes care of rogue regimes that are in violation of ceasefire terms with the backing of the UN or harbors those who have attacked them. As part and parcel of the removal of those violating regimes they then allow the people themselves to chose what government they wish. As for being at war with one country or another yes, there are a lot of regimes that are in violation of the rules of the UN at any one time.
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RayfromUSA: Glad to see you appreciate our efforts.
You'd be amazed at the way some people resent being "shock and awed".
You'd be amazed at the way some people resent being "shock and awed".
Yes they hate it so much that after their oppressors are removed from power and a constitution is written and ratified complete with a government in place they request that the liberators remain until their country is stabilized and they can manage security on their own.
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BebeII: One can only hope your as proud if and when you need our military assistance, in which case I'd say good luck and goodbye.
Considering we have given you ours many times in your journey to global dominance, I'd say that is the answer I expect from a citizen of such a "friendly" country.------ This thread is Archived ------
Albertaghost: Glad you agree that ""your country snubbed the entire US Navy then you attempted to turn the blame around on this thread when the US only tries to assist your sailors in being kept from those pesky nuclear ships you don't want in your waters despite wishing to be part of the organization.""
Thanks for finally seeing the light!
Yes, they are, aren't theyThanks for finally seeing the light!
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RayfromUSA: Love us, love our WMDs.
How else can we protect you from those guys with box cutters?
Hahaha! How else can we protect you from those guys with box cutters?
Well, we do have the odd invasion now and then, usually they come off cruise ships. I thought they were a new species of whale, but apparently they are from Florida.------ This thread is Archived ------
galrads: Since you dislike what the USA represents in your mind, Ray, why do you even bother to relate to it in your CS username?
I can be wrong but I recall Einstein once said, if you don't like the good that's going on in the planet, RayfromUSA, why don't you leave it.
I myself don't really see any good thats coming from it Galrad. I also love my country, but doesn't mean I think every stupid thing we do or invent should hold my reverence, because that would make me stupid also, don't you think?I can be wrong but I recall Einstein once said, if you don't like the good that's going on in the planet, RayfromUSA, why don't you leave it.
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Albertaghost: If you will note Max, the US does not deliberately liberate people as an end but rather takes care of rogue regimes that are in violation of ceasefire terms with the backing of the UN or harbors those who have attacked them. As part and parcel of the removal of those violating regimes they then allow the people themselves to chose what government they wish. As for being at war with one country or another yes, there are a lot of regimes that are in violation of the rules of the UN at any one time.
If you will note, Albert, the US only "takes care" of rogue regimes of countries that hold some form of valuable resource or a route for a valuable resource. It is always done for the benefit of the US, not the benefit of the people of that country.------ This thread is Archived ------
Bluefish22: I myself don't really see any good thats coming from it Galrad. I also love my country, but doesn't mean I think every stupid thing we do or invent should hold my reverence, because that would make me stupid also, don't you think?
Coming from what, exactly? Call me stupid all you like. Nothing anyone says on CS means doodles anyways. Don't sweat the small chit.
As far as the USA, it's not perfect but there's no other place else on this earth, I've visited to date, that I'd rather live. ITaly comes close, but that's probably only because I have citizenship there also.
And Like Dorothy said, "there's no place like home."
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Bluefish22: If you will note, Albert, the US only "takes care" of rogue regimes of countries that hold some form of valuable resource or a route for a valuable resource. It is always done for the benefit of the US, not the benefit of the people of that country.
Certainly not valuable for the US as they buy their oil off the international market. Since you are not aware, this link explains how Chinese, European and Russian Oil companies got the bulk of the contracts. Blowing your contention to shreds.
""n a clear signal of the declining influence of American capitalism, even in a country conquered and occupied by the US military, companies from China, Russia, Malaysia and Angola, along with several European oil giants, won most of the rights for exploration and development of Iraq’s oil fields.""
As for the silly pipeline contention, into the second decade and still no sign of even a rumor.
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MADDOG69: Isn't new Zealand a part of Australia? Like Tasmania?
OUCH
Are you English??
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Bluefish22: Yes, they are, aren't they
Only to those who take peace for granted.
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Bluefish22: If you will note, Albert, the US only "takes care" of rogue regimes of countries that hold some form of valuable resource or a route for a valuable resource. It is always done for the benefit of the US, not the benefit of the people of that country.
Spot ON!
Many lack this basic intelligence
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Bluefish22: We have sent troops to Afghanistan and Iraq.
Sooooo, is the US still snubbing us because of our Nuclear Free policy?
Bit petty isn't it?
Sooooo, is the US still snubbing us because of our Nuclear Free policy?
Bit petty isn't it?
OMG... I didn't realize this thread is just another Let's bash the U.S.A. type!
Bit petty? Well I imagine it is a bit petty in petty minds.... don't you think, Bluefish22?
NZ Navy refused entry to Pearl Harbour
Published: 6:42AM Tuesday July 03, 2012 Source: Fairfax
"Despite signing a sweeping new agreement on military co-operation with the United States, New Zealand's anti-nuclear legislation is the reason a navy frigate and tanker have been refused entry to Pearl Harbour during the world's largest maritime exercise.
Defence Minister Jonathan Coleman said refusing New Zealand ships at naval ports was a longstanding US policy enacted after nuclear-free legislation was introduced in 1987.
"I understand there have been some exceptions in the past but this is nothing new." New Zealand was not prepared to change its policy and so had not expected the US to change its policy, he said.
"The reality is we're getting all the military engagement benefits as it is, so where the boats tied up is not really a big deal to us at all."
The Rimpac exercise was happening at sea, so it was not affecting New Zealand's involvement."
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We are a nuclear free nation, and most are proud of it.
We don't allow nuclear ships in our waters, of any nationality.
They must be declared non nuclear.
US will not tell us whether the ships they send are nuclear powered or not, therefore we don't allow their ships in.
Though the PM has stated something, he also does not want to sour any relations that may encroach our trading potential with the US.
It is very obvious to me that our Navy ships are excluded from berthing at Pearl Harbour for the maritime exercise, as an ongoing punishment for our Nuclear Free status, but wondering if perhaps someone else knows better, such as the berthing co-ordinator...???