DHS Rounding up Veterans, Throwing them in Mental institutions (32)
IamTab: Veterans are being targeted in aftermath of Homeland Security smear campaign
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Friday, August 24, 2012
The lawyer who helped secure the release of Brendon Raub, a former Marine forcibly incarcerated in a psychiatric ward by authorities in Virginia for political posts on Facebook, told the Alex Jones Show today that there are currently a further 20 cases in his county alone that are similar in nature to Raub’s detention.
John Whitehead of the Rutherford Institute also said that he had been contacted by numerous veterans in the aftermath of Raub’s release who had encountered similar problems with authorities attempting to have them declared mentally ill.
Whitehead attributed the high number of cases involving veterans as a consequence of the Department of Homeland Security’s aggressive campaign to demonize former servicemembers as domestic extremists.
Despite controversy at the time, DHS chief Janet Napolitano said she stood by an April 2009 DHS intelligence assessment that listed returning vets as likely domestic terrorists.
Just a month later, the New York Times reported on how Boy Scout Explorers were being trained by the DHS to kill “disgruntled Iraq war veterans” in terrorist drills.
The FBI has also gone out of its way to characterize returning veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan as a major domestic terrorist threat.
Whitehead pointed to efforts on behalf of health authorities in the United States to characterize distrust of authority as a mental illness under the label “oppositional defiant disorder” or ODD.
As we highlighted earlier today, veterans in particular are being targeted in police raids to confiscate their firearms based on the manufactured pretext that they are “mentally defective.”
Earlier this year, we also reported on a similar case involving David Sarti, one of the participants in the National Geographic Channel’s Doomsday Prepper show. Sarti visited his doctor complaining of chest pains, only to have the doctor later commit him to a psychiatric ward and alert authorities, before Sarti was declared “mentally defective” and put on an FBI list that stripped him of his second amendment rights.
During an interview with Alex Jones last night, Whitehead also revealed that shortly before his release, psychiatrists had threatened to forcibly medicate Raub in order to “brainwash” him.
Critics have made comparisons to the infamous psikhushka psychiatric prisons in the former Soviet Union where dissidents were sent to be isolated, brainwashed, and have their political ideas discredited amongst the general public.
Whitehead added that Brandon Raub is currently at home recovering from his ordeal and that he plans to file a civil lawsuit against the government for damages. Whitehead hopes that the shocking nature of the case will force Congress to begin investigations that could strip the state’s power to carry out civil commitments, under which victims are declared mentally ill with little due process and detained in psychiatric wards.
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Friday, August 24, 2012
The lawyer who helped secure the release of Brendon Raub, a former Marine forcibly incarcerated in a psychiatric ward by authorities in Virginia for political posts on Facebook, told the Alex Jones Show today that there are currently a further 20 cases in his county alone that are similar in nature to Raub’s detention.
John Whitehead of the Rutherford Institute also said that he had been contacted by numerous veterans in the aftermath of Raub’s release who had encountered similar problems with authorities attempting to have them declared mentally ill.
Whitehead attributed the high number of cases involving veterans as a consequence of the Department of Homeland Security’s aggressive campaign to demonize former servicemembers as domestic extremists.
Despite controversy at the time, DHS chief Janet Napolitano said she stood by an April 2009 DHS intelligence assessment that listed returning vets as likely domestic terrorists.
Just a month later, the New York Times reported on how Boy Scout Explorers were being trained by the DHS to kill “disgruntled Iraq war veterans” in terrorist drills.
The FBI has also gone out of its way to characterize returning veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan as a major domestic terrorist threat.
Whitehead pointed to efforts on behalf of health authorities in the United States to characterize distrust of authority as a mental illness under the label “oppositional defiant disorder” or ODD.
As we highlighted earlier today, veterans in particular are being targeted in police raids to confiscate their firearms based on the manufactured pretext that they are “mentally defective.”
Earlier this year, we also reported on a similar case involving David Sarti, one of the participants in the National Geographic Channel’s Doomsday Prepper show. Sarti visited his doctor complaining of chest pains, only to have the doctor later commit him to a psychiatric ward and alert authorities, before Sarti was declared “mentally defective” and put on an FBI list that stripped him of his second amendment rights.
During an interview with Alex Jones last night, Whitehead also revealed that shortly before his release, psychiatrists had threatened to forcibly medicate Raub in order to “brainwash” him.
Critics have made comparisons to the infamous psikhushka psychiatric prisons in the former Soviet Union where dissidents were sent to be isolated, brainwashed, and have their political ideas discredited amongst the general public.
Whitehead added that Brandon Raub is currently at home recovering from his ordeal and that he plans to file a civil lawsuit against the government for damages. Whitehead hopes that the shocking nature of the case will force Congress to begin investigations that could strip the state’s power to carry out civil commitments, under which victims are declared mentally ill with little due process and detained in psychiatric wards.
Do you think that they treating guys like Loughner and Holmes with the pschye medications prior to court?
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ttom500: Do you think that they treating guys like Loughner and Holmes with the pschye medications prior to court?
Whats to stop them?
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IamTab: Whats to stop them?
That is the way I see it to. I blew Loughner face up in photoshop on his arrest pic. Drugs will pin point the pupils of the eyes, They seemed normal to me.Holmes, I have not done yet.
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This is news to me but it doesn't surprise me what the government will do to avoid medical treatment for PTSD.
Can we blame it on Obummer?
Can we blame it on Obummer?
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Since the state's can "no longer incarcerate unless a danger to themselves or others" and we have 18 to 23% of all our homeless population meeting the criteria for mental illness - you want to focus on an incident that you do NOT have all the facts available to make an informed opinion and you would ask on a connecting singles site for others to form an opinion.
just plain muckraking....
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JeanKimberley: Since the state's can "no longer incarcerate unless a danger to themselves or others" and we have 18 to 23% of all our homeless population meeting the criteria for mental illness - you want to focus on an incident that you do NOT have all the facts available to make an informed opinion and you would ask on a connecting singles site for others to form an opinion.
just plain muckraking....
just plain muckraking....
Go infoinfowars.com to get sources on what this government is about and doing to US Veterans.
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the DHS is the modern SS when it target people who don't like the policies of this president. this is why the people have to vote him out and get his cronies out of these positions. it also shows that this administration don't care about our veterns and the people of this nation in general along with the military
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john12196341: the DHS is the modern SS when it target people who don't like the policies of this president. this is why the people have to vote him out and get his cronies out of these positions. it also shows that this administration don't care about our veterans and the people of this nation in general along with the military
Absolutely, John!
Don't suffer from Gonorrhea Lectim...
VOTEMOUT is the Cure!
HL
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JeanKimberley: Since the state's can "no longer incarcerate unless a danger to themselves or others" and we have 18 to 23% of all our homeless population meeting the criteria for mental illness - you want to focus on an incident that you do NOT have all the facts available to make an informed opinion and you would ask on a connecting singles site for others to form an opinion.
just plain muckraking....
just plain muckraking....
Lot’s of these homeless people don’t want you work to get back on their feet, as well as those unemployed...point blank. We Veterans have gone through hell with many of you not having any respect for us 'Much more the government' when 'WE' have gallantry severed you, and 'OUR COUNTRY' to protect your constitutional rights. So if you don’t know what fighting in a conflict war zone feels like, get into one
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Guess some people never learn
Having a choice regarding the elections is an illusion .Blaming one Man for what is going on is ludacrity
No matter who the first man of the United States is ,the puppet masters have alredy determine the course
Having a choice regarding the elections is an illusion .Blaming one Man for what is going on is ludacrity
No matter who the first man of the United States is ,the puppet masters have alredy determine the course
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Infowars? That's just a site for idiots who'll believe any old crap.
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youretheboss: Infowars? That's just a site for idiots who'll believe any old crap.
No. That would be MSNBC.
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Here is a video from the attorney, John Whitehead.
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IamTab: told the Alex Jones Show today
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youretheboss: Infowars? That's just a site for idiots who'll believe any old crap.
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youretheboss: Infowars? That's just a site for idiots who'll believe any old crap.
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This Raub fellow is from my neck of the woods so I decided to do a little digging into this story and as I expected it is being somewhat blown out of perspective. It seems the police etc did the job they were hired to do, namely, protect and serve.
Facebook postings by Raub generally involved impassioned pleas for a return to American ideals of freedom and independence but also speak of betrayal by elected leaders. Who on here does that sound like?
"Your leaders are planning to merge the United States into a one-world banking system," he wrote. "They want to put computer chips in you … these men have evil hearts. They have tricked you into supporting corporate fascism. We gave them the keys to our country. We were not vigilant with our republic."
On Aug. 15, Raub posted that "the Revolution is here. And I will lead it."
Four days earlier, he had written: "I know many of you think I'm going crazy and are wondering just why I have been posting the things I have been posting. I don't have the energy to explain. Just know that a new beginning is coming."
On Aug. 4 he wrote, "I am standing against a great evil. I will do it all by myself if I have to."
"Client met with the FBI and Secret Service to explain recent posts on Facebook. Client's friends reported client to the FBI for posting extreme conspiracy theories and threats to President Bush. This counselor asked client about why the authorities were involved and he stated because they know I am on to something."
Sounds like a nutcase to me
In view of some recent high profile shootings and nutters running amuck with assault rifles I think the feds did the right thing to round this guy up and have him evaluated before we read about yet another mass killing of innocent people including children.
I also find it somewhat ironic that right wingers who generally hate the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) rush to embrace the Rutherford Institute which is basically the same type of institution.
Facebook postings by Raub generally involved impassioned pleas for a return to American ideals of freedom and independence but also speak of betrayal by elected leaders. Who on here does that sound like?
"Your leaders are planning to merge the United States into a one-world banking system," he wrote. "They want to put computer chips in you … these men have evil hearts. They have tricked you into supporting corporate fascism. We gave them the keys to our country. We were not vigilant with our republic."
On Aug. 15, Raub posted that "the Revolution is here. And I will lead it."
Four days earlier, he had written: "I know many of you think I'm going crazy and are wondering just why I have been posting the things I have been posting. I don't have the energy to explain. Just know that a new beginning is coming."
On Aug. 4 he wrote, "I am standing against a great evil. I will do it all by myself if I have to."
"Client met with the FBI and Secret Service to explain recent posts on Facebook. Client's friends reported client to the FBI for posting extreme conspiracy theories and threats to President Bush. This counselor asked client about why the authorities were involved and he stated because they know I am on to something."
Sounds like a nutcase to me
In view of some recent high profile shootings and nutters running amuck with assault rifles I think the feds did the right thing to round this guy up and have him evaluated before we read about yet another mass killing of innocent people including children.
I also find it somewhat ironic that right wingers who generally hate the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) rush to embrace the Rutherford Institute which is basically the same type of institution.
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JeanKimberley: Since the state's can "no longer incarcerate unless a danger to themselves or others" and we have 18 to 23% of all our homeless population meeting the criteria for mental illness - you want to focus on an incident that you do NOT have all the facts available to make an informed opinion and you would ask on a connecting singles site for others to form an opinion.
just plain muckraking....
just plain muckraking....
I thought the homeless problem had been conquered. I've not the 1st word about ANYONE being homeless since Obama got elected. Maybe I'm missing something???????
However, I'm sure NBC, CBS and ABC will make it a front and center issue once Romney is president. Whatcha think?
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WhatUwish4: No. That would be MSNBC.
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Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Friday, August 24, 2012
The lawyer who helped secure the release of Brendon Raub, a former Marine forcibly incarcerated in a psychiatric ward by authorities in Virginia for political posts on Facebook, told the Alex Jones Show today that there are currently a further 20 cases in his county alone that are similar in nature to Raub’s detention.
John Whitehead of the Rutherford Institute also said that he had been contacted by numerous veterans in the aftermath of Raub’s release who had encountered similar problems with authorities attempting to have them declared mentally ill.
Whitehead attributed the high number of cases involving veterans as a consequence of the Department of Homeland Security’s aggressive campaign to demonize former servicemembers as domestic extremists.
Despite controversy at the time, DHS chief Janet Napolitano said she stood by an April 2009 DHS intelligence assessment that listed returning vets as likely domestic terrorists.
Just a month later, the New York Times reported on how Boy Scout Explorers were being trained by the DHS to kill “disgruntled Iraq war veterans” in terrorist drills.
The FBI has also gone out of its way to characterize returning veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan as a major domestic terrorist threat.
Whitehead pointed to efforts on behalf of health authorities in the United States to characterize distrust of authority as a mental illness under the label “oppositional defiant disorder” or ODD.
As we highlighted earlier today, veterans in particular are being targeted in police raids to confiscate their firearms based on the manufactured pretext that they are “mentally defective.”
Earlier this year, we also reported on a similar case involving David Sarti, one of the participants in the National Geographic Channel’s Doomsday Prepper show. Sarti visited his doctor complaining of chest pains, only to have the doctor later commit him to a psychiatric ward and alert authorities, before Sarti was declared “mentally defective” and put on an FBI list that stripped him of his second amendment rights.
During an interview with Alex Jones last night, Whitehead also revealed that shortly before his release, psychiatrists had threatened to forcibly medicate Raub in order to “brainwash” him.
Critics have made comparisons to the infamous psikhushka psychiatric prisons in the former Soviet Union where dissidents were sent to be isolated, brainwashed, and have their political ideas discredited amongst the general public.
Whitehead added that Brandon Raub is currently at home recovering from his ordeal and that he plans to file a civil lawsuit against the government for damages. Whitehead hopes that the shocking nature of the case will force Congress to begin investigations that could strip the state’s power to carry out civil commitments, under which victims are declared mentally ill with little due process and detained in psychiatric wards.