Euthanasia (42)
MADDOG69: They sort of do... in a way... do it already. Especially in terminal illness. Cancer for example. That morphine is euthanasia in itself. Someone correct me, but I think they often give someone a good dose of it to send them on at the end.
Yeah I think that as long as the 'intention' is to ease pain and not kill the person then it's legal, even though the consequence is in fact the death of the patient.
MADDOG69: They sort of do... in a way... do it already. Especially in terminal illness. Cancer for example. That morphine is euthanasia in itself. Someone correct me, but I think they often give someone a good dose of it to send them on at the end.
yep thats what they do in cancer hospices..give them a high dose of Oxycontin..its the best way...they die in a little pain as possible..its a peaceful death as apposed to letting them die with no pain relief roaring in pain
I couldn't do it, selfish as that maybe to some.
I watched my dad die slowly and my mum over night, someone would have to take that kind of decision right out of my hands.
It was hard enough to sit there watch her slip away with out knowing I had a hand in doing it.
As I said pretty selfish I know but that's my views on it.
I watched my dad die slowly and my mum over night, someone would have to take that kind of decision right out of my hands.
It was hard enough to sit there watch her slip away with out knowing I had a hand in doing it.
As I said pretty selfish I know but that's my views on it.
fast_and_furious: i heard the reason they pump them with lots a morphine to kill the pain
I only have me own experience. I've said it before, but I'll say it again. My grandfather had cancer... on his last legs.. had the morphine pump etc. Anyway, they came in gave him an injection... said nothing... 30mins later he was dead. So yeah... I think they gave him a shot to send him on. Kinda bothered me and those that were with me for a while. But anyways...
salanky: not always a nice way to go, have seen a lot of animals put to sleep using various drugs and some of them are horrific. some of the side effects arent visible because the animal/person is sedated so heavily they arent able to move so theres no way to know they arent in pain, some people cant tolerate the drug and have horrible reactions to it and you cant reverse the affects
well I watched a close family member fade away in peace after the nurse upped her oxycontin dose..better than watching her scream and roar
salanky: not always a nice way to go, have seen a lot of animals put to sleep using various drugs and some of them are horrific. some of the side effects arent visible because the animal/person is sedated so heavily they arent able to move so theres no way to know they arent in pain, some people cant tolerate the drug and have horrible reactions to it and you cant reverse the affects
that just made me think of when I had an epidural with my son and after I got it I was in no more pain for an hour....it was wonderful. But my legs were shaking uncontrollably for ages and I asked why. I was told that my body was in pain and reacting to that....I just couldnt feel it.
fast_and_furious: Do you agree or disagree?
Im dying to try it!!! LOL
My parents have said they want to be put out of their misery if things get bad with either of them. Hopefully when the time comes we will be able to address their wishes adequately and with dignity.
Mariannette: that just made me think of when I had an epidural with my son and after I got it I was in no more pain for an hour....it was wonderful. But my legs were shaking uncontrollably for ages and I asked why. I was told that my body was in pain and reacting to that....I just couldnt feel it.
thats a nerve block and its the same thing dentists do when they are drilling your teeth. regardless of weather you can feel it or not your body still reacts and it can cause a lot more problems when the block wears offThe only way it can work is if someone is terminally ill and there is no way of saving them...the health system should measure illnesses on a scale of 1-10 (i don't know how they'd do that) with 10 being the worst and then have an option of euthanasia...
mcattack: The only way it can work is if someone is terminally ill and there is no way of saving them...the health system should measure illnesses on a scale of 1-10 (i don't know how they'd do that) with 10 being the worst and then have an option of euthanasia...
Well... that's actually the clear cut case.. terminally ill. The other cases, MACCA, are the hardest ones. Where people have some condition that renders them dribbling in a wheel chair. They might end up living for 10+years... but they are so sick of their life they want to go.
That's the hard cases.
MADDOG69: Well... that's actually the clear cut case.. terminally ill. The other cases, MACCA, are the hardest ones. Where people have some condition that renders them dribbling in a wheel chair. They might end up living for 10+years... but they are so sick of their life they want to go.
That's the hard cases.
exactly! As I said no quality of life leftThat's the hard cases.
If someone in pain, suffering from a terminal illness wants to end their own life by being 'put to sleep' then why oh why is this seen as 'wrong' or 'illegal'...
If an animal is terminally ill, or injured and will never recover, the HUMANE thing as society sees it is to put the dog down. If someone is diagnosed with terminal cancer, and they want to end their life and not go through the torturous pain that is the final stages of cancer, then who are to judge. Is this not INHUMANE??? To make people feel guilty about ending their lives so as not to go through so much pain from an irreversable disease???
If an animal is terminally ill, or injured and will never recover, the HUMANE thing as society sees it is to put the dog down. If someone is diagnosed with terminal cancer, and they want to end their life and not go through the torturous pain that is the final stages of cancer, then who are to judge. Is this not INHUMANE??? To make people feel guilty about ending their lives so as not to go through so much pain from an irreversable disease???
MADDOG69: Well... that's actually the clear cut case.. terminally ill. The other cases, MACCA, are the hardest ones. Where people have some condition that renders them dribbling in a wheel chair. They might end up living for 10+years... but they are so sick of their life they want to go.
That's the hard cases.
That's the hard cases.
Well someone dribbling in a wheelchair is a waste of life and the only ones keeping them alive is the family because they don't want to let them go...there's too much emotion attached to the whole thing therefore i can't ever seeing it working, there's always going to be problems and court cases after it
mcattack: Well someone dribbling in a wheelchair is a waste of life
That's a really hard thing to decide though. Nobody has the answer to that.
MADDOG69: That's a really hard thing to decide though. Nobody has the answer to that.
Yeah that was harsh and to be honest i shouldn't have said it, i take it back
salanky: we have the ability to do it in work for animals for various reasons and i can understand the reasons behind people wanting to have the choice for themselves. that said where do you draw the line on who is entitled to it and who isnt
its a topic that you will never get agreement on
its a topic that you will never get agreement on
who ever wants it should be entitled to it in my opinion.
If the person cannot decide (in coma etc) then next of kin should be able to decide.
I am totally for it.
I have had animals put down due to terminal sickness/in pain/no quality of life etc, and if it was me who needed "putting down" I would hope someone would do it for me.
I know a guy from Holland who went to see his brother before he did (by choice) and it was hard of course (no one wants to lose a loved one) but it was done with great dignity and he picked the day and hour.
I think the issues people have is who decides on quality of life....that would be the tough bit I reckon.
properly regulated it ensures people have control over their life.
I personally agree with humans being afforded the dignity to know when enough is enough and make a decision regarding so...dying slowly and painfully is probably something we all fear.
I personally agree with humans being afforded the dignity to know when enough is enough and make a decision regarding so...dying slowly and painfully is probably something we all fear.
fifitheminx: properly regulated it ensures people have control over their life.
I personally agree with humans being afforded the dignity to know when enough is enough and make a decision regarding so...dying slowly and painfully is probably something we all fear.
I personally agree with humans being afforded the dignity to know when enough is enough and make a decision regarding so...dying slowly and painfully is probably something we all fear.
I will put you out of your misery Fifi!
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Your right , they up the dose to keep pain at bay , but it kills ya !!