Kaybee50: A woman opens herself when there is reciprocal trust, comfort, and the feeling of compatible. Expectations should be left at the door. A woman enjoys a date that expresses sincere interest in her, asks her questions about herself, listens, interacts. If you have felt them not being open, it simply wasn't happening for them.
Women always open up for me...er...or did you mean...Ohhh
HotBohdi: Yet, 2intriqued, these women are sitting across from someone who could use similar "excuses" to desire love & life, and not accept it! Where are those who are open (like me) - they all seem to be gone??? Or transformed?
We all have different personalities. C'est le Difference. Not everyone is like you. That's what dating is about...to learn about commanities, differences, and whether you both wish to continue dating. More times than not, one or the other does not wish to continue. If you truly like a woman, and she isn't immediately open, go at her pace. I assure you, it could be worth the effort.
HotBohdi: Yet, 2intriqued, these women are sitting across from someone who could use similar "excuses" to desire love & life, and not accept it! Where are those who are open (like me) - they all seem to be gone??? Or transformed?
They're not gone...they're just guarding their hearts. Life lessons over the years are bound to cause people to be cautious. When you meet a woman for the first time, show sincerity in wanting to get to know her as a human being and if she has questions, answer them. This is how she gets to know you well enough to break down the barriers towards openness.
Kaybee50: We all grew up, matured, have learned through experience. You should be flattered to be sitting across from the table enjoying the company who is selective and smart, it sounds like.
I am flattered by their interest, kaybee, but put off when they insist on my life story & a pressing "reporter" style interview, before they'll have a second coffee meet. PS: One does want to meet again. But this is like a strange new world to me!!!!
HotBohdi: During my teens, twenties, & thirties I dated a bit, and had a few relationships (the most recent for 23 years). During all those years the women were open and more than a little aggressive. In fact, actually going on a date usually happened after intimacy (which they initiated). Today, these same women (age 50+ now) hesitate to sit across the table for coffee & a chat. And when they do accede to this, it's for a 99 question indepth interview - which they don't "expect" anyone to truly pass. What happened while I was away from the dating scene???
Maybe stop having coffee dates? Plan something fun wherein you are busy with an activity which takes away the pressure and "interview" like atmosphere .......... been there, had that, and truly its not a lot of fun.
As for the expectation that you have from the past - leave them at the door and enjoy the experience of simply getting to know someone. If you don't get to any base - who cares? That isn't what its about in the least and truly if that's how you gauge the success of a date, then you are doing these women a favor but not seeing them anymore.
HotBohdi: I am flattered by their interest, kaybee, but put off when they insist on my life story & a pressing "reporter" style interview, before they'll have a second coffee meet. PS: One does want to meet again. But this is like a strange new world to me!!!!
Hmm...I was the same way you were a few years. I even backed out on my first few dates because my nervouness and shyness got the best of me. I was so nervous, I would shake, had trouble carrying on an conversation, couldn't make contact.
Will time and experience, I have learned to sit back and enjoy the ride. And not see every man I meet as a potential partner, but a simply an enjoyable evening out.
And I have my List as well. I'm just a bit more subtle in getting the information I would like to know.
Expect that you will be asked some personal questions. Keep in mind, there are many, many, MANY people who are not who the claim to be. "Single" doesn't necessarily mean "really single" anymore. Age has become...well....flexible. There is a reason for those questions. We've had too many surpries, the naivete has long since worn off.
minnie50: I haven't dated in years, but i am afraid of the ''new way'' of making a start, i believe in natural and simple, a date isnot a interview for a job...besides there are a lot of things one can find out just observing .
You sound different than the women I've met Minnie. A little shyness, fear or reluctance does put me off, it's not the same as 99 things I must qualify for!
Perhaps it is biology. Women of 50 + are usually post menopause (the average age for that event is 51), so they do not have hormones telling them to mate.
Carl96190: Perhaps it is biology. Women of 50 + are usually post menopause (the average age for that event is 51), so they do not have hormones telling them to mate.
Carl96190: Perhaps it is biology. Women of 50 + are usually post menopause (the average age for that event is 51), so they do not have hormones telling them to mate.
HotBohdi: You may be onto something!D you think they thought like YOU - that showing openness might suggest to me tha we were soon to be intimate?
Could you define what you mean by "open"?
Many men come on too strong too fast, say things that turn me off, as if I'm one of his drinking, cigar smoking buddies at the corner bar. They have attempted to steer the conversation too quickly to private bits, and then when they are met with a dejected, deflated Date, they turn it around by saying, "Geez, lighten up. I was only joking". Implyng the Date has some problems, when we both know he was testing to see just how far he could get.
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