I have yet to find a woman that doesn't argue and complain. I've tried many sites, and several local girls, with 2 locals in this last year. So far the longest took 3 days before she started to argue and complain. They all said they didn't like to argue and complain, but that was a lie, and liar is another HUGE turn off. There is most always some way to accomplish just the same goal with politeness and manners as can be done with arguing and complaining. Life is just too short to live with the arguing and complaining all the time, but being alone is not all that good either as thats NOT how it should be. I choose alone to the arguing and complaining though.
Foxmaine: I have yet to find a woman that doesn't argue and complain. I've tried many sites, and several local girls, with 2 locals in this last year. So far the longest took 3 days before she started to argue and complain. They all said they didn't like to argue and complain, but that was a lie, and liar is another HUGE turn off. There is most always some way to accomplish just the same goal with politeness and manners as can be done with arguing and complaining. Life is just too short to live with the arguing and complaining all the time, but being alone is not all that good either as thats NOT how it should be. I choose alone to the arguing and complaining though.
If EVERY WOMAN you meet argues and complains, maybe you need to look closer to home??? There does seem to be a common denominator.
jac379: How do you define arguing and complaining? I feel you haven't provided enough information here.
/\/\/\/\/\/\ I'm complaining you haven't provided enough information as part of arguing my case, the way I see it.
The arguing and complaining depends on the given situation. I have seen it such that staying polite and mannerly for a time only make it worse. Like thats some kind of sign of a weakness to be attacked. Arguing and complaining can start over the smallest things to, like not jumping up to do what she asks right when she asks. I am a grown man, I ran crews of men in the body shop, I don't jump up just because a woman wishes me to. It's impossible to list all the ways the arguing and complaining starts without writing War and Peace. Am I perfect? GOD NO! I am however polite and mannerly, not argumentative and complaining.
hoolet: Aw well then.....in that case, it´s probably best that you find out quite early on in the relationship!!!!!!!
As I said, I do find out before anything happens. And so far 3 days is the longest it took before the arguing and complaining begins, and thats where it ended too.
Foxmaine: I have yet to find a woman that doesn't argue and complain. I've tried many sites, and several local girls, with 2 locals in this last year. So far the longest took 3 days before she started to argue and complain. They all said they didn't like to argue and complain, but that was a lie, and liar is another HUGE turn off. There is most always some way to accomplish just the same goal with politeness and manners as can be done with arguing and complaining. Life is just too short to live with the arguing and complaining all the time, but being alone is not all that good either as thats NOT how it should be. I choose alone to the arguing and complaining though.
maryrachelleBathurst, New Brunswick Canada1,370 posts
Foxmaine: I have yet to find a woman that doesn't argue and complain. I've tried many sites, and several local girls, with 2 locals in this last year. So far the longest took 3 days before she started to argue and complain. They all said they didn't like to argue and complain, but that was a lie, and liar is another HUGE turn off. There is most always some way to accomplish just the same goal with politeness and manners as can be done with arguing and complaining. Life is just too short to live with the arguing and complaining all the time, but being alone is not all that good either as thats NOT how it should be. I choose alone to the arguing and complaining though.
Very few people argue and complain for no reason at all. Obviously if it keeps happening to you as much as you say it does then you are doing some pretty crappy things to start fights with people you have just met.
maryrachelle: Very few people argue and complain for no reason at all. Obviously if it keeps happening to you as much as you say it does then you are doing some pretty crappy things to start fights with people you have just met.
Another woman thats if there is a weed in the garden it must be the guy!! Some women complain everything, the glass is always half empty for them from the weather, to the car, to other people they've met, about work, about how the day went for them, even about how they feel, and about daily chores. Ask them to be positive and then they argue then. My mother and grandmas were not that way!! They were positive up beat women, thats how I was raised to be. So where are the girls like that today?
U were looking for a woman who doesnt complain find a mute and deaf even u talk so loud its fine with her,a woman who dont cheat find a blind one,a woman who doesnt leave u go for a paralyze one,take my advice im sure you'll be happy :-D:-D
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
Foxmaine: The arguing and complaining depends on the given situation. I have seen it such that staying polite and mannerly for a time only make it worse. Like thats some kind of sign of a weakness to be attacked. Arguing and complaining can start over the smallest things to, like not jumping up to do what she asks right when she asks. I am a grown man, I ran crews of men in the body shop, I don't jump up just because a woman wishes me to. It's impossible to list all the ways the arguing and complaining starts without writing War and Peace. Am I perfect? GOD NO! I am however polite and mannerly, not argumentative and complaining.
The premiss of this thread is a complaint that women argue and complain and you're arguing your case.
I don't feel you have furthered your argument by furnishing it with a clear definition, or explanation of the difference between 'arguing and complaining' and being 'polite and mannerly'.
The reason our debate is being prolonged is because you've not answered my question clearly (or possibly even listened to the question with any empathy/understanding), ergo, you have a role to play in prolonging this discussion, or disagreement.
As I see it 'arguing and complaining' may become volatile, or unpleasant because people become frustrated that they have not been listened to and have not had their questions answered effectively. I feel the frustration already at your lack of effective communication. I'm not going to become volatile, or unpleasant, but its just as much your responsibility to communicate effectively as it is the person you're are talking with.
Putting forward the case that I've highlighted in purple, is defensive and unsophisticated. If you don't like the way someone has asked you to do something, then effective communication would be pointing out what you disliked, not throwing the things that bolster your self-esteem at that person.
The statement I've highlighted in green is you closing off discussion. You said you can't discuss something because its an impossibly large task. This is not effective communication, as the other person will harbour resentment at the subject being closed without them being able to express themselves and come to some level of understanding, or compromise with you.
I think you don't understand the dynamics of your interactions as well as you could. Taking control is not about you demanding you are respected as a grown, or capable man, or shutting off communication. Your politeness and mannerliness are perhaps not seen as weakness in terms of you not being a big strong man, but weakness in terms of your inability to communicate effectively.
Migsy: U were looking for a woman who doesnt complain find a mute and deaf even u talk so loud its fine with her,a woman who dont cheat find a blind one,a woman who doesnt leave u go for a paralyze one,take my advice im sure you'll be happy :-D:-D
So it's hopeless there are no decent up beat women a guy can depend on like those of my mother and grandmas kind any more?
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