This is a good one!---rights, rights, rights...... (24)
Food businesses are no place for dogs for whatever excuse.
If that dog is barking and becoming belligerent, in the library then the owner should leave if they can’t control there dog, most service dogs don’t behaved like that
they are trained to behave , they stay close to there master
they are trained to behave , they stay close to there master
Coldheaven: Food businesses are no place for dogs for whatever excuse.
100% correct. Thanks for this response. 
The employee have to give right of way to the ones with a servicedog, in my view. Apply for a different job if you have an exaggurated fear of dogs. If I had a strong fear of sharks I would not apply as a life guard in New South Wales.
To the unruly dog scenario I'd say the dog owner has to leave pronto if they can not get their dogs silent withing 5 seconds, maximum 10.
To the unruly dog scenario I'd say the dog owner has to leave pronto if they can not get their dogs silent withing 5 seconds, maximum 10.
Over here the business proprietor can be sued for damages if staff turn away service dogs. Guess service dogs are properly trained so should nt be any trouble
Hi Ro
I imagine regulations are in place in any State or country where service animals are permitted in public places (I'm not sure what you mean by Oregon's 'very lenient policy'?) and these need to be adhered to by both owners/operators of businesses and those who own the animals.
In terms of the first scenario, it would be up to the business operator to address the employees' concerns, just as with any other workplace issues, however regulations can't be adjusted to suit individuals' requirements obviously.
So yes, they may need to find employment in an industry where dogs will not be present.
The second scenario again pertains to regulatory requirements; ours include the animal being clean, not defecating or urinating in inappropriate areas, not displaying aggressive behaviour and being under the control of the owner at all times.
So in this case, it appears that the librarian had no choice but to intervene and request the animals be removed.
Overall, my personal view is that where possible, people living with disabilities should be able to have access to the same places, activities etc. as the rest of our communities, something that is often taken for granted by the able-bodied, and minded
I imagine regulations are in place in any State or country where service animals are permitted in public places (I'm not sure what you mean by Oregon's 'very lenient policy'?) and these need to be adhered to by both owners/operators of businesses and those who own the animals.
In terms of the first scenario, it would be up to the business operator to address the employees' concerns, just as with any other workplace issues, however regulations can't be adjusted to suit individuals' requirements obviously.
So yes, they may need to find employment in an industry where dogs will not be present.
The second scenario again pertains to regulatory requirements; ours include the animal being clean, not defecating or urinating in inappropriate areas, not displaying aggressive behaviour and being under the control of the owner at all times.
So in this case, it appears that the librarian had no choice but to intervene and request the animals be removed.
Overall, my personal view is that where possible, people living with disabilities should be able to have access to the same places, activities etc. as the rest of our communities, something that is often taken for granted by the able-bodied, and minded
The concept of service animals is much abused. Most of the time it is just an excuse for someone to take an untrained dog with them to inappropriate places.
If a state allows it, then they should be licensed and have an examination to ensure they are trained. And the owner must have the license on them.
As for employees having them in the restaurant, that is probably already covered in the state sanitation inspection regulations.
If a state allows it, then they should be licensed and have an examination to ensure they are trained. And the owner must have the license on them.
As for employees having them in the restaurant, that is probably already covered in the state sanitation inspection regulations.
OddTraveller: The concept of service animals is much abused. Most of the time it is just an excuse for someone to take an untrained dog with them to inappropriate places.
If a state allows it, then they should be licensed and have an examination to ensure they are trained. And the owner must have the license on them.
As for employees having them in the restaurant, that is probably already covered in the state sanitation inspection regulations.
Blessings....If a state allows it, then they should be licensed and have an examination to ensure they are trained. And the owner must have the license on them.
As for employees having them in the restaurant, that is probably already covered in the state sanitation inspection regulations.
Anyone who brings a dog into a restaurant should have their head examined.
ooby_dooby: Anyone who brings a dog into a restaurant should have their head examined.
I think it's the other way around.First you have your head examined.
Then if you qualify,
you might bring a service dog into a restaurant.
Agreed, although "service dogs" biting people on airplanes was a problem for a bit. Hard to make them leave, although if I was bit, I would be tempted to show them the inflight exit!
And the variety of "Service Animals" people try to bring on airplanes is amusing! I really should have been keeping a list.
And the variety of "Service Animals" people try to bring on airplanes is amusing! I really should have been keeping a list.
Just a non-judgmental note to all (please read cognitively, clearly, academically--thanks..)
The primary reasoning for not allowing dogs in an eating establishment is biological--(the flora and fauna on the dog has a negative impact on edibles, and therefore, states mandate as per the risk factor). Clear? And, not disparaging anyone, let's be real: a dog is a dog is a dog, regardless of its role in society. So, I get the argument of citizens having their "right" to a service or emotional support animal, but the same bugs on a non-service animal are also on the support animal. Get it? I believe the greater risk is to the safety of the food.
The primary reasoning for not allowing dogs in an eating establishment is biological--(the flora and fauna on the dog has a negative impact on edibles, and therefore, states mandate as per the risk factor). Clear? And, not disparaging anyone, let's be real: a dog is a dog is a dog, regardless of its role in society. So, I get the argument of citizens having their "right" to a service or emotional support animal, but the same bugs on a non-service animal are also on the support animal. Get it? I believe the greater risk is to the safety of the food.
rohaan: Just a non-judgmental note to all (please read cognitively, clearly, academically--thanks..)
The primary reasoning for not allowing dogs in an eating establishment is biological--(the flora and fauna on the dog has a negative impact on edibles, and therefore, states mandate as per the risk factor). Clear? And, not disparaging anyone, let's be real: a dog is a dog is a dog, regardless of its role in society. So, I get the argument of citizens having their "right" to a service or emotional support animal, but the same bugs on a non-service animal are also on the support animal. Get it? I believe the greater risk is to the safety of the food.
Well said The primary reasoning for not allowing dogs in an eating establishment is biological--(the flora and fauna on the dog has a negative impact on edibles, and therefore, states mandate as per the risk factor). Clear? And, not disparaging anyone, let's be real: a dog is a dog is a dog, regardless of its role in society. So, I get the argument of citizens having their "right" to a service or emotional support animal, but the same bugs on a non-service animal are also on the support animal. Get it? I believe the greater risk is to the safety of the food.
ooby_dooby: Anyone who brings a dog into a restaurant should have their head examined.
ooby_dooby: Anyone who brings a dog into a restaurant should have their head examined.
NO SHIT. No.
Society has decided once and for all that the risk of bugs
is outweight by the need of certain ill people to also be able to go to a restaurant.
Ill ones who need a service dog as a handicapped person needs a wheelchair.
Often in life we have to weight two needs up against each other
It's like with breast feeding in public.
Should we accept it or not?
Well society decided we should.
I would never had objected anyway
Get it?
Society has decided once and for all that the risk of bugs
is outweight by the need of certain ill people to also be able to go to a restaurant.
Ill ones who need a service dog as a handicapped person needs a wheelchair.
Often in life we have to weight two needs up against each other
It's like with breast feeding in public.
Should we accept it or not?
Well society decided we should.
I would never had objected anyway
Get it?
rohaan: Just a non-judgmental note to all (please read cognitively, clearly, academically--thanks..)
The primary reasoning for not allowing dogs in an eating establishment is biological--(the flora and fauna on the dog has a negative impact on edibles, and therefore, states mandate as per the risk factor). Clear? And, not disparaging anyone, let's be real: a dog is a dog is a dog, regardless of its role in society. So, I get the argument of citizens having their "right" to a service or emotional support animal, but the same bugs on a non-service animal are also on the support animal. Get it? I believe the greater risk is to the safety of the food.
I agree ^^The primary reasoning for not allowing dogs in an eating establishment is biological--(the flora and fauna on the dog has a negative impact on edibles, and therefore, states mandate as per the risk factor). Clear? And, not disparaging anyone, let's be real: a dog is a dog is a dog, regardless of its role in society. So, I get the argument of citizens having their "right" to a service or emotional support animal, but the same bugs on a non-service animal are also on the support animal. Get it? I believe the greater risk is to the safety of the food.
When I moved to North Carolina I was shocked out of my mind when I saw a dog on a leash in a grocery store that had an open salad bar. I asked someone about it and was told, that's the way it is. Service dog, support dog or just Lassie didn't want to stay home that day, all dogs are allowed in any store in this state. These dogs range from 3 lb Chihuahuas to 60 lb Golden Retrievers. I love Golden Retrievers but I still don't want him in my grocery store.
When Covid was rampant people had to wear a mask but the dog didn't and yet he had fleas, bugs, mites or just dirt on his paws and maybe some stuck on poo on his backside that flew off into the air and landed on my salad ingredients. Interestingly I've never seen a cat in a grocery store.
Reminds me of a guide dog I know, he pissed on the potatoes in supervalu. Good times!
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*this just occurred and the librarian had to ask the person with the two dogs to leave. We (five of us) are in agreement with this. just want to know what others think about this. Thanks!