L_B76Italy,Germany ,Switzerland, Greater London, England UK1,117 posts
marijhie: economy are going down all over the world but china are beggining to rise maybe because they are workaholic people and????most of the products are imitation and fakes
the fakes come from china... are breaking the economy of other country... even more all not legal immigrants from china gets bad paid and who own a busines in italy not even pay the due taxes.... but send money back to china... thats why china is growing...
galrads: Well, it's not like I said I had a fortune, by anyone's standard.
Come January 1st, the U.S. stock market is more then likely going to take a deep plunge regardless of what Reid and McConnell do. That will effect other countries so I don't blame them for being angry over how we have handled our economy.
What is it they say to an alcoholic....You have to hit the bottom before you can get back up to the top.
montemonte: Come January 1st, the U.S. stock market is more then likely going to take a deep plunge regardless of what Reid and McConnell do. That will effect other countries so I don't blame them for being angry over how we have handled our economy.
What is it they say to an alcoholic....You have to hit the bottom before you can get back up to the top.
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
L_B76: the fakes come from china... are breaking the economy of other country... even more all not legal immigrants from china gets bad paid and who own a busines in italy not even pay the due taxes.... but send money back to china... thats why china is growing...
Unfortunately the China products aren't fakes they are very real, and work, just look at the Chinese companies that advertise on CS eg everbuying.com, they produce their own goods and sell them to the world at fraction of what the West are asking. Without a doubt China will be the next world power, and will probably be instrumental in bailing the States out.
As for your leaders doing their job economically, the US is going to take us all down
tomcatwarne: Unfortunately the China products aren't fakes they are very real, and work, just look at the Chinese companies that advertise on CS eg everbuying.com, they produce their own goods and sell them to the world at fraction of what the West are asking. Without a doubt China will be the next world power, and will probably be instrumental in bailing the States out.
As for your leaders doing their job economically, the US is going to take us all down
Well, china should bail us out using a credit card with permanently deferred interest.
They owe the united states more than what our fed debt is compared to what it cost us when we helped them survive wwii. it is the european states whom should fear china, if anyone should..... just from an environmental point of view.
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
galrads: Well, china should bail us out using a credit card with permanently deferred interest.
They owe the united states more than what our fed debt is compared to what it cost us when we helped them survive wwii. it is the european states whom should fear china, if anyone should..... just from an environmental point of view.
Just interested to know how you helped China, they don't owe America a cent, and if they did how would you collect.'
No he American economy is one of Chinas targets, and I don't see how you will stop them in the long run.
To be honest, again, I figure it doesn't matter to USA's citizens because we voted the bums into office and, being complacent, allowed them to lead us to where we are...
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tomcatwarne: Just interested to know how you helped China, they don't owe America a cent, and if they did how would you collect.'
No he American economy is one of Chinas targets, and I don't see how you will stop them in the long run.
IF you don't already know the answers to your own questions presented above, and you're not sure how to use google, why don't you start a new thread about china's debts and debtors after the first of the year?
That topic sounds to serious to address right now, considering the current impending global fiscal doom. I'll be glad to participate in any thread like that you create, then!
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
galrads: IF you don't already know the answers to your own questions presented above, and you're not sure how to use google, why don't you start a new thread about china's debts and debtors after the first of the year?
That topic sounds to serious to address right now, considering the current impending global fiscal doom. I'll be glad to participate in any thread like that you create, then!
Avoidance tactics, you don't have an answer, just keep blustering, some one might think you know what you're talking about.
It is presumptuous to think that one country holds the whole world's economy in their hands. Remember the recessions of the past and how all countries managed to claw their way out.
spiritalk: It is presumptuous to think that one country holds the whole world's economy in their hands. Remember the recessions of the past and how all countries managed to claw their way out.
I don't know why people are so uptight about the so called "Fiscal Cliff". All it means is come Jan 01 2013 spending will be cut (a good thing) and the Bush tax cuts will expire (another good thing). The result will be the US can begin to stop borrowing money from China and we can balance our budget and get out of debt. Isn't that what everybody wants? It's true that Wall St has been dropping lately but that is probably due mostly to year end tax selling which is normal. There are also a lot of savvy traders who are scooping up stock at bargain basement prices.
The world didn't end on Dec 21 and it's not gonna end on Jan 1st either.
Ya know, Bill Clinton was the last president before Obama that understood that the anchor around Americas neck was the 100's of Billions of dollars we were paying in interest every month on the debt load we built up under previous administrations Dem & Rep. This fiscal cliff is a blessing in disguise, a wake up call which we really needed.
tomcatwarne: Avoidance tactics, you don't have an answer, just keep blustering, some one might think you know what you're talking about.
I really don't care, most of the time, what anyone else thinks. but honestly, put your money where your mouth is, why don't you make a holiday and spend it here, where we can discuss your ego issue. we have a lot of under-employed shrinks in the usa. relax bronson, and enjoy the ride!
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the fakes come from china...
are breaking the economy of other country...
even more all not legal immigrants from china gets bad paid
and who own a busines in italy
not even pay the due taxes....
but send money back to china...
thats why china is growing...