MADDOG69: To be honest I'm not sure where this is going. On the face of it I would say that everyone would care for their offspring the same between races etc. However, different economic conditions that might apply to races differently within a same area cause all sorts of issues. In other words, hard neighbourhoods are gonna have a lot of absent fathers, single mothers etc no matter what the prevalent race is.Do you know what was an eye opener for me there just recently? I came across this piece that showed where a bunch of absent fathers, make themselves absent cos they think they ain't worthy enough to be around their own children. Isn't that the saddest thing?
Yes, it is sad, and the real answer to this part is legion. I have no intention of answering this: but do you think these ladies looking for the love of their life will find happiness once they get a response? God help us. And Allah too.
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
2girlsnocup: Then the problem is with you. Not my preferences. Maybe question yourself as to why you feel like that. Are you lacking something in your life that you're overcompensating for?
Maybe then, you won't feel the need to try and poke your nose into other people's preferences.
My issue is that refusing to acknowledge our prejudices and deal with them impacts upon other people, as well as ourselves. Our prejudices, if we hold onto them, are essentially selfish and a measure of ourselves.
Not our choices of who to date, per se, but the underlying mentality which impinges upon our overall behaviours and attitudes.
'Overcompensating' is an interesting term from you.
As for something in my life that I lack? I dunno. Maybe it's got something to do seeing the lack of honesty and integrity which hides less than ethical behaviour the world over.
Maybe it's got something to do with seeing the insidiousness of prejudice and it's impact upon people, including myself.
But then, I'm not afraid to acknowledge my prejudices, or address them. Neither am I afraid to acknowledge the impact prejudice has had upon me.
If I were to try an put it in a nutshell, prejudice, deciding something about people in advance and without attention to the individual impacts upon personal identity. It's the removal of the right for people to decide for themselves who they are. That can be very confusing and debilitating, especially for children.
I happen to think that that it's unethical to impose identity, or objectification upon people, especially children. It's no way to treat other human beings.
And of course, at the extreme end our prejudices result in all sorts of hideous behaviours which we all contribute to unless we examine our input and personal responsibilities to the whole.
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
MADDOG69: Just because you and yours may have a preference for various races outside the majority in your own environs doesn't mean everyone else will or should.
I don't have preferences for various races outside the majority in my own environs.
I just don't prejudge who I'm prepared to date based upon race.
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
jac379: I've been ruminating over this one.
Like Kendall, I'm not sure about the shouting, but I think there's an element of truth in what you say: we perhaps more readily accept that a black person might only want to date other black people, than we do a white person only wanting to date other white people.
Perhaps we need to ask why that is, rather than just resent it, futilely.
We accept that people may want to have relationships within their culture, their religion, their way of life. We accept that a Jewish person may want a relationship with another Jewish person, or a Muslim person with another Muslim person.
We are perhaps less accepting if people are insistent upon relationships within their own class, or caste, even though like above there is a likely a racial and cultural element to the match.
Perhaps the link is historical and current oppression. We may feel more compassion for someone not wanting to date within the race, or caste of their oppressors. We may feel less compassion for someone not wanting to date within the race, or class viewed as oppressored, dehumanising, or objectifying someone from the perceived subjugated race.
To view people as oppressor, or subjugated based upon race is prejudice whichever way round the prejudgement is being made, but perhaps for as long as we refuse to acknowledge our prejudices, for as long as we carry our faulty thinking, perhaps it's hardly surprising that there are racial gulfs between us.
Just imagine if we were all to acknowledge and deal with our prejudices.
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
jac379: I've been ruminating over this one.
Like Kendall, I'm not sure about the shouting, but I think there's an element of truth in what you say: we perhaps more readily accept that a black person might only want to date other black people, than we do a white person only wanting to date other white people.
Perhaps we need to ask why that is, rather than just resent it, futilely.
We accept that people may want to have relationships within their culture, their religion, their way of life. We accept that a Jewish person may want a relationship with another Jewish person, or a Muslim person with another Muslim person.
We are perhaps less accepting if people are insistent upon relationships within their own class, or caste, even though like above there is a likely a racial and cultural element to the match.
Perhaps the link is historical and current oppression. We may feel more compassion for someone not wanting to date within the race, or caste of their oppressors. We may feel less compassion for someone not wanting to date within the race, or class viewed as oppressor, dehumanising, or objectifying someone from the perceived subjugated race.
To view people as oppressor, or subjugated based upon race is prejudice whichever way round the prejudgement is being made, but perhaps for as long as we refuse to acknowledge our prejudices, for as long as we carry our faulty thinking, perhaps it's hardly surprising that there are racial gulfs between us.
Just imagine if we were all to acknowledge and deal with our prejudices.
A good example of how political correctness is justified JaC.
People(and more women than men)are found to be more attracted to people that look more like themselves. Then you have culture and personality which race is an indicator of, and the divergence of the tribes which is the drive of Human evolution and diversity.
These would explain why I, a White man, have a preference for White women despite the fact that on paper White women are the worst women to enter into a relationship with. My chances of being cheated on, her chances of getting fat, the chances of producing an autistic, depressed or socially crippled sprog, and my chances of being financially broken all go up by my choosing of a White woman. But alas, the heart wants what it wants
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Yes, it is sad, and the real answer to this part is legion. I have no intention of answering this: but do you think these ladies looking for the love of their life will find happiness once they get a response? God help us. And Allah too.