Honesty versus Trust ( Archived) (40)

Nov 13, 2013 5:49 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
Maus19
Maus19Maus19Kilkenny, Ireland3 Threads 397 Posts
A while back I came across the following somewhere on a profile,
Honesty is a must.
I tend to disagree with this.
I think trust is a must.
I don't think we are honest by nature and find it demanding something that we are incapable of ourself.
What are your views? popcorn
No, you can't have a slice of both cakes here.cake giggle
Anyway, see you around or not.
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Nov 13, 2013 5:54 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
Maus19: A while back I came across the following somewhere on a profile,
Honesty is a must.
I tend to disagree with this.
I think trust is a must.
I don't think we are honest by nature and find it demanding something that we are incapable of ourself.
What are your views?
No, you can't have a slice of both cakes here.
Anyway, see you around or not.



Honesty is what Trust is built from!hmmm
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Nov 13, 2013 5:55 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
Scott1812
Scott1812Scott1812Claresholm, Alberta Canada26 Threads 11 Polls 1,595 Posts
With out honesty you don,t have trust!thumbs up peace
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Nov 13, 2013 5:58 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
SoonerGal
SoonerGalSoonerGalPonca City, Oklahoma USA21 Threads 10 Polls 2,363 Posts
Here's what I do (obviously been doing it wrong or I wouldn't be here) I go head into a relationship with total trust...only to, well you know the rest of the story wine
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Nov 13, 2013 6:01 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
HotrodLarrys: Honesty is what Trust is built from!



Other way around Rod

Integrity/honesty is what the person needs to have in order to build trust in them

You can't trust someone unless you know they are honest

The first step is integrity then trust and then maybe love professor
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Nov 13, 2013 6:05 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
DaytonaDude
DaytonaDudeDaytonaDudeSouth Daytona, Florida USA33 Threads 3 Polls 2,403 Posts
The profiler probably got burnt by someone they trusted who was dishonest with them. Hence why they say "honesty is a must"
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Nov 13, 2013 6:08 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
montemonte: Other way around Rod

Integrity/honesty is what the person needs to have in order to build trust in them

You can't trust someone unless you know they are honest

The first step is integrity then trust and then maybe love



This is just what I said! To Have Honesty, You will have Integrity!
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Nov 13, 2013 6:15 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
Honesty is given, Trust is Earned!


Dishonesty given, Trust is Broken!
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Nov 13, 2013 6:57 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
HotrodLarrys: This is just what I said! To Have Honesty, You will have Integrity!

Recently, I've been absolutely furious with a colleague, but I didn't tell her. She's been aware of my emotions bubbling under the surface and has been prodding away at me to express those feelings and I've deflected to avoid telling her how angry I felt towards her.

Dishonest? Lacking in integrity?

The thing is, I was aware my level of anger was disproportionate to anything she'd done. I was aware that the vast majority of my anger was to do with a bereavement. It was only yesterday that I worked out the person I'm really, really angry with is me. The moment I worked that out and acknowledge it the anger began to fade.

I can now start to look at the issue with her and work towards a point where I can tell her what she's done that I haven't liked, without projecting anger from elsewhere on her.

Should I have been honest with her and told her what I didn't like in a projected rage?

Or am I right in thinking that I should tell her when I'm able to be fair and realistic?
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Nov 13, 2013 7:05 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
Scott1812
Scott1812Scott1812Claresholm, Alberta Canada26 Threads 11 Polls 1,595 Posts
HotrodLarrys: Honesty is given, Trust is Earned!Dishonesty given, Trust is Broken!
thumbs up thumbs up
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Nov 13, 2013 7:10 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
chatonlyman2
chatonlyman2chatonlyman2North Bay, Ontario Canada27 Threads 7 Polls 6,600 Posts
jac379: Recently, I've been absolutely furious with a colleague, but I didn't tell her. She's been aware of my emotions bubbling under the surface and has been prodding away at me to express those feelings and I've deflected to avoid telling her how angry I felt towards her.

Dishonest? Lacking in integrity?

The thing is, I was aware my level of anger was disproportionate to anything she'd done. I was aware that the vast majority of my anger was to do with a bereavement. It was only yesterday that I worked out the person I'm really, really angry with is me. The moment I worked that out and acknowledge it the anger began to fade.

I can now start to look at the issue with her and work towards a point where I can tell her what she's done that I haven't liked, without projecting anger from elsewhere on her.

Should I have been honest with her and told her what I didn't like in a projected rage?

Or am I right in thinking that I should tell her when I'm able to be fair and realistic?
Can I answerhug Yes wait it out if this person is trying to mess with you email me for advice or figure out the best way to fix him or her. Patience is your friend.
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Nov 13, 2013 7:11 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
HotrodLarrys: This is just what I said! To Have Honesty, You will have Integrity!



I don't think that's what you said but if you want to believe that it's okey dokey with me


The way I read your original post you said that trust comes before honesty wine
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Nov 13, 2013 7:12 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
jac379: Recently, I've been absolutely furious with a colleague, but I didn't tell her. She's been aware of my emotions bubbling under the surface and has been prodding away at me to express those feelings and I've deflected to avoid telling her how angry I felt towards her.

Dishonest? Lacking in integrity?

The thing is, I was aware my level of anger was disproportionate to anything she'd done. I was aware that the vast majority of my anger was to do with a bereavement. It was only yesterday that I worked out the person I'm really, really angry with is me. The moment I worked that out and acknowledge it the anger began to fade.

I can now start to look at the issue with her and work towards a point where I can tell her what she's done that I haven't liked, without projecting anger from elsewhere on her.

Should I have been honest with her and told her what I didn't like in a projected rage?

Or am I right in thinking that I should tell her when I'm able to be fair and realistic?


The first thing is that You admitted that it was more of a problem within You! Raging out would have only made it grow even worst, and yes, You should approach her in a fair and realistic Manner, and you may even find a new friend! The Approach is critical to the outcome!

wine wave
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Nov 13, 2013 7:14 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
I think that having trust for someone is important.


How far do you trust someone and how honest should you be with someone.
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Nov 13, 2013 7:16 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
montemonte: I don't think that's what you said but if you want to believe that it's okey dokey with me The way I read your original post you said that trust comes before honesty


No Problem Maybe you read too fast, Go Read it again please!wine
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Nov 13, 2013 7:47 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
2intrigued
2intrigued2intriguedMississauga, Ontario Canada11 Threads 18,576 Posts
Maus19: A while back I came across the following somewhere on a profile,
Honesty is a must.
I tend to disagree with this.
I think trust is a must.
I don't think we are honest by nature and find it demanding something that we are incapable of ourself.
What are your views?
No, you can't have a slice of both cakes here.
Anyway, see you around or not.


When someone writes "honesty is a must" in a profile, I interpret it as someone who might be very trusting at the outset and had that trust broken too often by people who were dishonest. We all know this happens quite a lot on dating sites and in the real world. Speaking for myself, I have written in my profile that I choose to be honest and open but I have also written that I want someone who is honest. I suppose these things should be a given. Bottom line....honesty and trust are synonymous. Without one there is no other. wave
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Nov 13, 2013 7:49 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
honestly, If you have spinach in your teeth, trust that I will tell you....
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Nov 13, 2013 8:05 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
chatonlyman2
chatonlyman2chatonlyman2North Bay, Ontario Canada27 Threads 7 Polls 6,600 Posts
Ccincy: I think that having trust for someone is important.How far do you trust someone and how honest should you be with someone.
thumbs up You hit the nail... again.handshake hug hole joy
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Nov 13, 2013 8:07 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
chatonlyman2
chatonlyman2chatonlyman2North Bay, Ontario Canada27 Threads 7 Polls 6,600 Posts
chatonlyman2: You hit the nail... again.
On second thought you hit part of the nailhug
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Nov 13, 2013 8:12 PM CST Honesty versus Trust
chatonlyman2
chatonlyman2chatonlyman2North Bay, Ontario Canada27 Threads 7 Polls 6,600 Posts
chatonlyman2: On second thought you hit part of the nail
No cliff hanger tonight. soon to bed but.

Honesty has a friendship evolution. Friendship has the honesty. Decide from therehug (women only)laugh thumbs up grin angel rolling on the floor laughing
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