Should he be allowed to carry a gun? (92)
kennn: I have seen this topic go back and forth(for and against) continually on here. Fact is Zimmerman is the one who put himself where he is is today. Whether or not he is allowed to own a gun is irrelevant,there is always a way get a gun. Being harassed and hounded is not a reason for his actions, just an excuse. JMO
He is an angry man who has a need to build his ego by killing another person and will continue his violent nature until he does
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Glitch101: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24995459I know. Another gun thread but this just beggars belief.
He should not but it is his right until he is convicted of wrongful use of a gun.
Get on my bad side and my dirty looks will cause you confusion.
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galrads: Well, I guess you can also say there is a heck of a lot more violent crime there in your tiny isle than we have here in the continental USA!
Actually, as of June 2013, "There are over 2,000 crimes recorded per 100,000 population in the U.K.," compared to "466 violent crimes per 100,000" in the United States."
Actually, as of June 2013, "There are over 2,000 crimes recorded per 100,000 population in the U.K.," compared to "466 violent crimes per 100,000" in the United States."
Number of homicides 1 per 100,000 in the UK
4.8 per 100,000 in the US.
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kennn: I have seen this topic go back and forth(for and against) continually on here. Fact is Zimmerman is the one who put himself where he is is today. Whether or not he is allowed to own a gun is irrelevant,there is always a way get a gun. Being harassed and hounded is not a reason for his actions, just an excuse. JMO
... Interesting view, as I previously stated I suspect he might be suffering from PTSD. Had he been a policeman who had to kill in the line of duty he would have had access to counciling etc. but since he was only a civilian who defended his life noone bothered. His life has been turned upside down and he has been harrassed since the incident. I sympathize with the man, all he did was defend himself with a legal firearm (he was the one who was assaulted), he was found not guilty in a court of law. He has since split from his wife (I bet the continual hounding from the media and the stress of the case contributed to this), he has now had an arguement with his 'girlfriend' (a typical he said, she said arguement), no 'facts' just different accounts of the event. You all assume he is at fault ... This is just another 'witch hunt' ...
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MadBushpig: ... Interesting view, as I previously stated I suspect he might be suffering from PTSD. Had he been a policeman who had to kill in the line of duty he would have had access to counciling etc. but since he was only a civilian who defended his life noone bothered. His life has been turned upside down and he has been harrassed since the incident. I sympathize with the man, all he did was defend himself with a legal firearm (he was the one who was assaulted), he was found not guilty in a court of law. He has since split from his wife (I bet the continual hounding from the media and the stress of the case contributed to this), he has now had an arguement with his 'girlfriend' (a typical he said, she said arguement), no 'facts' just different accounts of the event. You all assume he is at fault ... This is just another 'witch hunt' ...
Whereas you assume that everyone else is in the wrong. Ex wive's ,girlfriends ,neighbours.
There are two sides to a story and until such times as the stability of this person has been established ,he shouldn't be allowed to carry fire arms.
Just an opinion,not a crusade.
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Glitch101: Whereas you assume that everyone else is in the wrong. Ex wive's ,girlfriends ,neighbours.
There are two sides to a story and until such times as the stability of this person has been established ,he shouldn't be allowed to carry fire arms.
Just an opinion,not a crusade.
There are two sides to a story and until such times as the stability of this person has been established ,he shouldn't be allowed to carry fire arms.
Just an opinion,not a crusade.
... Do the words 'Innocent until proven guilty mean anything?' Hmmm ...
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MadBushpig: ... Do the words 'Innocent until proven guilty mean anything?' Hmmm ...
Absolutely ,but also staying alive, when faced with someone a bit unhinged with a gun in his hand ,springs to mind.
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... he obviously passed all the requirements to get his gun permit when it was issued unlike most 'ganstas' and criminals, surely the 'anti-gun' brigade should be focussing on these groups rather than a legal gun owner? ... 
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MadBushpig: ... he obviously passed all the requirements to get his gun permit when it was issued unlike most 'ganstas' and criminals, surely the 'anti-gun' brigade should be focussing on these groups rather than a legal gun owner? ...
Maybe his Daddy being a retired Judge has kept him out of trouble.
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Glitch101: Maybe his Daddy being a retired Judge has kept him out of trouble.
... Maybe, or maybe he just passed all the requirements ...
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Here in Australia if you're involved in a domestic violence incident and it results in a ADVO (apprehended domestic violence order) then you automatically lose the right to a gun licence and to possess firearms for a 10 year period, if you own any they must be handed into the police. Domestic violence is taken very seriously here, and for good reason. The bloke in the article has issues with violence and self control, i personally don't think he should be allowed to have firearms.
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MadBushpig: ... Interesting view, as I previously stated I suspect he might be suffering from PTSD. just different accounts of the event. You all assume he is at fault ... This is just another 'witch hunt' ...
actually the facts as I have read them - he was always a police wanna-be, but never was acceptable to become one - he has serious issues with anger management and according to his history he would never have been in a situation to get PTSD - he never served in the military.
He has attitudes and beliefs that let to these tragic events, with Treyvon and his wife and his ex girlfriend.
He is a disaster waiting to happen -
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lushguy4you: I just say hello and that upsets most people
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JeanKimberley: actually the facts as I have read them - he was always a police wanna-be, but never was acceptable to become one - he has serious issues with anger management and according to his history he would never have been in a situation to get PTSD - he never served in the military.
He has attitudes and beliefs that let to these tragic events, with Treyvon and his wife and his ex girlfriend.
He is a disaster waiting to happen -
He has attitudes and beliefs that let to these tragic events, with Treyvon and his wife and his ex girlfriend.
He is a disaster waiting to happen -
... Trayvon was a little 'wannabe thug', he got shot assaulting an armed civilian. As for PTSD, I've no doubt that an event such as the one Zimmerman was involved in could result in PTSD (you don't need to be a soldier etc.). There is no way you or anyone else could determine just what Zimmermans beliefs and attitudes are anymore than you can determine mine ... At least Zimmerman took one prospective thug out of the gene pool before it could multiply ...
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justjim63: Here in Australia if you're involved in a domestic violence incident and it results in a ADVO (apprehended domestic violence order) then you automatically lose the right to a gun licence and to possess firearms for a 10 year period, if you own any they must be handed into the police. Domestic violence is taken very seriously here, and for good reason. The bloke in the article has issues with violence and self control, i personally don't think he should be allowed to have firearms.
... Interesting you state he has issues with violence and self control, amazing, are you psychic or simply responding to what the popular liberal press want you to believe. If you read a previous post his girlfriend stated that she lied to the police and that he never pointed a firearm at her ... Sounds like she's the one with 'issues' and not Zimmerman ... I do however respect your right to an oppinion ...
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MadBushpig: ... Interesting you state he has issues with violence and self control, amazing, are you psychic or simply responding to what the popular liberal press want you to believe. If you read a previous post his girlfriend stated that she lied to the police and that he never pointed a firearm at her ... Sounds like she's the one with 'issues' and not Zimmerman ... I do however respect your right to an oppinion ...
Thanks mate, it's just that, an opinion.I'm not saying i'm right or wrong, but i've had some dealings with people who are perpetrators of domestic violence, and generally if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and craps like a duck then it's a good chance of being a duck.
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justjim63: Thanks mate, it's just that, an opinion.I'm not saying i'm right or wrong, but i've had some dealings with people who are perpetrators of domestic violence, and generally if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and craps like a duck then it's a good chance of being a duck.
Yeh, I've heard some of those ducks can be pretty violent
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Yes George Zimmerman may have been acquited of murder but he KILLED someone, he admitted it himself. Anything is possible in the US with good 'lawyering'.
What goes round comes around, tout mal ca se paie! as we say in French. OJ Simpson was acquitted of murder with good 'lawyering' too but where is he now?
Trayvon Martin is dead and gone but who is suffering now??
Zimmerman is unemployed, homeless, broke - only 140 dollars to his name, 2.4 million dollars in legal fees, wife divorced him, girlfriend files a complaint with the police against him etc.
his former home was searched and 5 guns were found
as someone here said he brought all this upon himself
he should have stayed in his car, called 911 and let the police deal with the issue instead of getting out of his car, getting into confrontation with Martin, shooting him and claiming self defence
What goes round comes around, tout mal ca se paie! as we say in French. OJ Simpson was acquitted of murder with good 'lawyering' too but where is he now?
Trayvon Martin is dead and gone but who is suffering now??
Zimmerman is unemployed, homeless, broke - only 140 dollars to his name, 2.4 million dollars in legal fees, wife divorced him, girlfriend files a complaint with the police against him etc.
his former home was searched and 5 guns were found
as someone here said he brought all this upon himself
he should have stayed in his car, called 911 and let the police deal with the issue instead of getting out of his car, getting into confrontation with Martin, shooting him and claiming self defence
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MadBushpig: ... Interesting you state he has issues with violence and self control, amazing, are you psychic or simply responding to what the popular liberal press want you to believe. If you read a previous post his girlfriend stated that she lied to the police and that he never pointed a firearm at her ... Sounds like she's the one with 'issues' and not Zimmerman ... I do however respect your right to an oppinion ...
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Totally agree with you.