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Jan 5, 2014 3:37 AM CST marriage and love
claireclaire200
claireclaire200claireclaire200beihai, Guangxi China1 Threads 4 Posts
One thing I dont understand about marriage, why couples complain a lot to each other after marriage. Actually complain not gonna help at all, the only way out is to find the correct solution with good communication. Just think what makes you both married? It's love, so why after marry people have to make their love gone by complaining or fighting.
In my opinion, marriage has to be managed through our entire marriage life. Marriage doesnt simply mean live together, eat together, have baby and start a family. This is the basis, but dont forget to manage your marriage. To manage the marriage, both parties should be involved with passion, patient, understanding and caring, loving, in this way your marriage can be long lasting, otherwise, your love will be vanished day by day.
One of my friend told me she and her husband havent talked to each other for half a month because they had a fight. OMG, I cant believe they can live under such kind of atmosphere. And what kind of marriage and couples this is called since it's without love and patient and communication?
Sometimes when my friends complain me about their marriage, I am really happy that I am still single. But most of the time, I am looking and waiting for a responsible man to share my life with, it's not a nice thing to see the sun rise alone, eat alone and every morning wake up alone. I know I have so much to give, but just for the right man in my life. Where are you?
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Jan 5, 2014 4:26 AM CST marriage and love
Westdeck57
Westdeck57Westdeck57amsterdam, North Holland Netherlands2 Threads 14 Posts
Any relationship needs air to breath. You write about doing all those thing together.
I was married 3 times, 2 times to the same woman. so I am sort of an expert. Never get 'joint by the hip' Keep doing your own thing. Don't suffocate the other. You need to mis the other sometimes.
I think that if you get to the point you need to 'manage' your relationship, you need to end it! Sorry!
Happiness is like a butterfly, if you catch it, it dies!
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Jan 5, 2014 7:20 AM CST marriage and love
Purplenails
PurplenailsPurplenailsSingapore, Central Singapore Singapore3 Threads 44 Posts
Westdeck57:
Happiness is like a butterfly, if you catch it, it dies!


I like this onethumbs up
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Jan 5, 2014 7:42 AM CST marriage and love
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Westdeck57: Any relationship needs air to breath. You write about doing all those thing together.
I was married 3 times, 2 times to the same woman. so I am sort of an expert. Never get 'joint by the hip' Keep doing your own thing. Don't suffocate the other. You need to mis the other sometimes.
I think that if you get to the point you need to 'manage' your relationship, you need to end it! Sorry!
Happiness is like a butterfly, if you catch it, it dies!


There is a sort of paradox insomuch as, the more a person can embrace their separateness, the more a person is able to live with oneself, the better the relationship will be.
Most relationships succeed for a while as a kind of fusion, limiting the growth of both parties, or break down under the weight of unreasonable expectations.
Relationships are more likely to last when both parties are aware and respect each others individuality.
Rilke defined the core of genuine relationship as the sharing of one's solitude with another...

"I hold the highest task of a bond between two people, that each should stand guard over the solitude of the other."
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Jan 5, 2014 11:41 AM CST marriage and love
NUMBER_ONE
NUMBER_ONENUMBER_ONEBlaine, Minnesota USA1 Threads 136 Posts
People complain because man is by nature ungrateful, disloyal, petty, and ultimately selfish. Love is dead.
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Jan 5, 2014 11:47 AM CST marriage and love
Prapiroon
PrapiroonPrapiroonCarlow, Ireland366 Posts
claireclaire200: One thing I dont understand about marriage, why couples complain a lot to each other after marriage. Actually complain not gonna help at all, the only way out is to find the correct solution with good communication. Just think what makes you both married? It's love, so why after marry people have to make their love gone by complaining or fighting.
In my opinion, marriage has to be managed through our entire marriage life. Marriage doesnt simply mean live together, eat together, have baby and start a family. This is the basis, but dont forget to manage your marriage. To manage the marriage, both parties should be involved with passion, patient, understanding and caring, loving, in this way your marriage can be long lasting, otherwise, your love will be vanished day by day.
One of my friend told me she and her husband havent talked to each other for half a month because they had a fight. OMG, I cant believe they can live under such kind of atmosphere. And what kind of marriage and couples this is called since it's without love and patient and communication?
Sometimes when my friends complain me about their marriage, I am really happy that I am still single. But most of the time, I am looking and waiting for a responsible man to share my life with, it's not a nice thing to see the sun rise alone, eat alone and every morning wake up alone. I know I have so much to give, but just for the right man in my life. Where are you?



I feel that the entire concept of marriage is a bad one that ultimately is damaging to both parties. In too many cases people become very complacent after marriage. I mean WHY does anyone need a piece of paper and a church blessing to begin with to be totally fulfilled, committed too and happy together ? They do not of course. Marriage is a business transaction. It is a binding contract. What place has this got in any loving relationship ? Absolutely none in my opinion. People and couples can and do fall out of love for any number of reasons. So because they have entered in a permanent legally binding contract many couples next remain together for years even after all love has gone. Because the cost associated with breaking this now worthless contract is prohibitive. This is usually sufficient to keep a great many of them together. Because leaving a dead marriage can be financially devastating. uh oh
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Jan 5, 2014 12:04 PM CST marriage and love
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
I would've been married to my late husband for 34 yrs this year if he hadn't passed away in 2007 of lung cancer.


Some marriages/relationships in today's world are just throwaways. like anything else.It's we'll just throw away this relationship and rebound into a new one. What's really sad is when there are kids right smack in the middle of it all.

People just don't spend enough time on those relationships.Least lil thing and they run to the divorce court.
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Jan 5, 2014 12:10 PM CST marriage and love
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
Ccincy: I would've been married to my late husband for 34 yrs this year if he hadn't passed away in 2007 of lung cancer.Some marriages/relationships in today's world are just throwaways. like anything else.It's we'll just throw away this relationship and rebound into a new one. What's really sad is when there are kids right smack in the middle of it all.

People just don't spend enough time on those relationships.Least lil thing and they run to the divorce court.


I agree to a point, Cc. My parents will celebrate their 60th wedding anniversary this year, with great pride. They still hold hands and cuddle, it's really beautiful to watch.
For me, though, once was enough.
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Jan 5, 2014 12:12 PM CST marriage and love
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
unlaoised: I agree to a point, Cc. My parents will celebrate their 60th wedding anniversary this year, with great pride. They still hold hands and cuddle, it's really beautiful to watch.
For me, though, once was enough.




If you noticed I did use the word 'Some'.
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Jan 5, 2014 12:14 PM CST marriage and love
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
Ccincy: If you noticed I did use the word 'Some'.


Of course...and my post was a personal opinion
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Jan 5, 2014 12:16 PM CST marriage and love
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
unlaoised: Of course...and my post was a personal opinion





Obviously.handshake
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Jan 5, 2014 12:18 PM CST marriage and love
renata_is
renata_isrenata_isIasi, Moldova Romania4 Threads 31 Posts
Westdeck57: Any relationship needs air to breath. You write about doing all those thing together.
I was married 3 times, 2 times to the same woman. so I am sort of an expert. Never get 'joint by the hip' Keep doing your own thing. Don't suffocate the other. You need to mis the other sometimes.
I think that if you get to the point you need to 'manage' your relationship, you need to end it! Sorry!
Happiness is like a butterfly, if you catch it, it dies!


In the same spirit, true love is like a cockroach, no matter how many times you try to kill it, it still stays alive :)!
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Jan 5, 2014 12:23 PM CST marriage and love
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
Ccincy: I would've been married to my late husband for 34 yrs this year if he hadn't passed away in 2007 of lung cancer.Some marriages/relationships in today's world are just throwaways. like anything else.It's we'll just throw away this relationship and rebound into a new one. What's really sad is when there are kids right smack in the middle of it all.

People just don't spend enough time on those relationships.Least lil thing and they run to the divorce court.



If my husband hadn't had a problem with drinking and then died we would be married 52 years.

I have no way of knowing if we would have lasted 52 years even without his drinking. We both respected the avenue of marriage and loyalty but I think as I got older I might have wanted to move on as he was 12 years older then me and we had very different interests.

I don't want to get married now because it's my belief that once you get married people stop loving their partner. I think it becomes a business proposition. The passionate relationship they had before the marriage is lost to complacency.

I'd rather shack up and keep the interests and passion on a high level. I don't need a piece of paper or vow to be loyal. It runs in my blood to be true blue every single day yay
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Jan 5, 2014 5:24 PM CST marriage and love
Prapiroon
PrapiroonPrapiroonCarlow, Ireland366 Posts
"From the crooked timber of humanity no straight thing can ever be made."
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Jan 5, 2014 5:28 PM CST marriage and love
Scott1812
Scott1812Scott1812Claresholm, Alberta Canada26 Threads 11 Polls 1,595 Posts
NUMBER_ONE: People complain because man is by nature ungrateful, disloyal, petty, and ultimately selfish. Love is dead.
I sure hope not!teddybear
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Jan 5, 2014 5:54 PM CST marriage and love
M1ck1e
M1ck1eM1ck1eWestfield, Massachusetts USA2 Threads 1 Polls 663 Posts
In marriage you take the good and the bad. No ones perfect. I can work through most anything. Cheating though is a big NO for me. I may not necessarily end the marriage over it, but it will forever change things for me.
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Jan 5, 2014 5:56 PM CST marriage and love
leonardo5
leonardo5leonardo5Central region, Santa Fe Argentina33 Threads 8 Polls 284 Posts
NUMBER_ONE: People complain because man is by nature ungrateful, disloyal, petty, and ultimately selfish. Love is dead.

To put all men in the same bag is unfair and inaccurate.
There are all kind of men and women. We should not judge all based on our own experience.
In my case, I've been almost 28 years married and although we have had our good and bad times, the boat is still afloat and go on.
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Jan 5, 2014 6:11 PM CST marriage and love
Ccincy: I would've been married to my late husband for 34 yrs this year if he hadn't passed away in 2007 of lung cancer.Some marriages/relationships in today's world are just throwaways. like anything else.It's we'll just throw away this relationship and rebound into a new one. What's really sad is when there are kids right smack in the middle of it all.

People just don't spend enough time on those relationships.Least lil thing and they run to the divorce court.



Disposable. This is what I see as pretty accurate in today's "concept" of marriage. People don't understand the meaning of the words they say. It's work.

The bottom line in the end, is the potential loss of respect for one another. Instead of being together as they should with good and bad, many want to live or continue like they are single. Communication becomes lost. Individuality in a relationship becomes blurred. One may be truly committed and the other wants to run.

Many other factors and views fall into play. The bottom line in many cases is the same. Disposable. You don't have to work through anything. You won't be held accountable for anything. Just get out because you can start over with an easier slate than the one you have spent "x" amount of time building on the current one.

There are reasons for divorce. In the last years with many I've talked too, the "reasons and excuses" from most, aren't the right ones or even good ones. This includes some men as well as women. It's not one sided. Another mistake many make, it's not one sided.
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Jan 5, 2014 6:27 PM CST marriage and love
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
People marry for different reasons.

- some want children
- some don't want to be alone
- some want the status and being looked after

Love doesn't necessarily have to do anything with the above.

I think you have to take a test of time, be together for years, live together for years and be sure you BOTH want the same things and have the same idea how to go about it.
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Jan 5, 2014 7:04 PM CST marriage and love
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
NUMBER_ONE: People complain because man is by nature ungrateful, disloyal, petty, and ultimately selfish.

..

Some men. certainly are but so are some women as well.


NUMBER_ONE: ...

Love is dead.


But it can be born again as many times as you wish to.

Although, I am not an expert in the Love matter. If I were, perhaps I wouldn't be at the CS university!


laugh


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