Australia is expected to provide a dumping ground by Indonesian Government (15)

Feb 16, 2014 12:28 AM CST Australia is expected to provide a dumping ground by Indonesian Government
Indonesian Constitution preamble states independence is a genuine right of all nations and any form of alien occupation should thus be erased from the earth as not in conformity with humanity and justice.
So I asked myself then why does the Indonesian Government give comfort and support for aliens to enter Australia?
Taken a brief look at Indonesia’s Visa and entry requirements by firstly having regard to the State of Law and citizen’s rights in Indonesia I found…

Article 26
(1) Citizens are those who are indigenous Indonesians and persons of foreign origin who are legalized as citizens in accordance with the law.
(2) Residents consist of Indonesian citizens and foreigners residing in Indonesia.
(3) Matters of citizenship and residency are to be regulated by law.

Article28G
(2) Each person has the right to be free from torture or inhuman and degrading treatment and shall be entitled to obtain political asylum from another country.


Article 28H
(1) Each person has a right to a life of well-being in body and mind, to a place to dwell, to enjoy a good and healthy environment, and to receive medical care.

(2) Each person has the right to facilities and special treatment to get the same opportunities and advantages in order to reach equality and justice.

Article 281
(4) Protecting, promoting, upholding, and the full realization of human rights are the responsibilities of the state, foremost of the government.

(5) To uphold and protect human rights in accordance with the principles of a democratic and law-based state, the implementation of fundamental human rights is to be guaranteed, regulated, and laid down in laws and regulations.


Article 28J
(1) Each person has the obligation to respect the fundamental human rights of others while partaking in the life of the community, the nation, and the stale.

(2) In exercising his rights and liberties, each person has the duty to accept the limitations determined by law for the sole purposes of guaranteeing the recognition and respect of the rights and liberties of other people and of satisfying a democratic society's just demands based on considerations of morality, religious values, security, and public order.


Article 34
(1) Impoverished persons and abandoned children are to be taken care of by the state.
Feb 16, 2014 12:29 AM CST Australia is expected to provide a dumping ground by Indonesian Government
Indonesian Constitution preamble states independence is a genuine right of all nations and any form of alien occupation should thus be erased from the earth as not in conformity with humanity and justice.
So I asked myself then why does the Indonesian Government give comfort and support for aliens to enter Australia?
Taken a brief look at Indonesia’s Visa and entry requirements by firstly having regard to the State of Law and citizen’s rights in Indonesia I found…

Article 26
(1) Citizens are those who are indigenous Indonesians and persons of foreign origin who are legalized as citizens in accordance with the law.
(2) Residents consist of Indonesian citizens and foreigners residing in Indonesia.
(3) Matters of citizenship and residency are to be regulated by law.

Article28G
(2) Each person has the right to be free from torture or inhuman and degrading treatment and shall be entitled to obtain political asylum from another country.


Article 28H
(1) Each person has a right to a life of well-being in body and mind, to a place to dwell, to enjoy a good and healthy environment, and to receive medical care.

(2) Each person has the right to facilities and special treatment to get the same opportunities and advantages in order to reach equality and justice.

Article 281
(4) Protecting, promoting, upholding, and the full realization of human rights are the responsibilities of the state, foremost of the government.

(5) To uphold and protect human rights in accordance with the principles of a democratic and law-based state, the implementation of fundamental human rights is to be guaranteed, regulated, and laid down in laws and regulations.


Article 28J
(1) Each person has the obligation to respect the fundamental human rights of others while partaking in the life of the community, the nation, and the stale.

(2) In exercising his rights and liberties, each person has the duty to accept the limitations determined by law for the sole purposes of guaranteeing the recognition and respect of the rights and liberties of other people and of satisfying a democratic society's just demands based on considerations of morality, religious values, security, and public order.


Article 34
(1) Impoverished persons and abandoned children are to be taken care of by the state.
Feb 16, 2014 12:29 AM CST Australia is expected to provide a dumping ground by Indonesian Government
Indonesia Issued Visa-on-Arrival for Iranians

The government of Indonesia has decided to enlist Iran as a country whose citizens enjoy the visa on arrival facility to visit Indonesia.
A understanding for tourism cooperation was signed between Iran and Indonesia by Indonesia's Minister of Trade and Industry and Iran's Minister of Culture and Islamic Guidance of that time in November/December 2002.

Other countries, which have similar agreements with Indonesia are Vietnam, Myanmar, Laos, India, Croatia, Mongolia, Peru, Cuba, Serbia-Montenegro, North Korea, South Korea, Turkey, Cambodia, and People's Republic of China.
Visitors obtaining those visas must enter and exit through the airports or seaports or border crossing post officially approved as an “International Gateway” by the Indonesian Immigration department.
On August 20, 2013 citizens of Iran visas on arrival has been cancelled.

SHORT VISIT TOURISTS VISA ISSUED ON ARRIVAL

Citizens from 63 countries and 1 region are eligible to apply for a Visa on Arrival (VOA). This visa can be applied for after you have landed at certain airports and seaports in Indonesia. The Visa on Arrival cannot be converted or extended to obtain an immigration permit. The maximum stay permitted by the visa on arrival is 30 days.

Those 62 countries and 1 region are as follows:


Argentina
Australia
Austria
Algeria
Bahrain
Belgium
Brazil
Bulgaria
Czech Republic
Cambodia
Canada
China
Cyprus
Denmark
Egypt
Estonia
Fiji
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Iceland
India
Iran
Ireland
Italy
Japan
Kuwait
Laos
Latvia
Lybia Lithuania
Liechtenstein
Luxembourg
Maldives
Malta
Mexico
Monaco
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Oman
Panama
Poland
Portugal
Qatar
Romania
Russia
Saudi Arabia
Slovak Republic
Slovenia
South Africa
South Korea
Spain
Surinam
Sweden
Switzerland
Taiwan, ROT
Tunisia
Timor Leste
United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom
USA



Visa On Arrival may only be extended upon approval from the Director General of Immigration of the Republic of Indonesia in case of natural disaster, illness or accident, but cannot be transferred to another type of visa. Overstay visitors incur to pay a penalty of US$20.- per day/person (for under 60 days stay) whilst over 60 days stay will be a 5 (five) year prison sentence or a fine of IDR25.000.000 (local currency).

ENTRY REQUIREMENTS FOR VISA ON ARRIVAL (VOA)
– Passport must be valid for a minimum of 6 (six) months as from the date of entry into Indonesia.
– Onward or return tickets are compulsory
– Compulsory vaccinations
– Visitors must enter through the following airports and seaports in Indonesia.

There are 20 (twenty) Airports and 23 (twenty three) Seaports across Indonesia, etc etc…
Feb 16, 2014 12:52 AM CST Australia is expected to provide a dumping ground by Indonesian Government
itsimpossible
itsimpossibleitsimpossibleBrisbane, Queensland Australia4 Threads 777 Posts
robplum: Indonesia Issued Visa-on-Arrival for Iranians

The government of Indonesia has decided to enlist Iran as a country whose citizens enjoy the visa on arrival facility to visit Indonesia.
A understanding for tourism cooperation was signed between Iran and Indonesia by Indonesia's Minister of Trade and Industry and Iran's Minister of Culture and Islamic Guidance of that time in November/December 2002.

Other countries, which have similar agreements with Indonesia are Vietnam, Myanmar, Laos, India, Croatia, Mongolia, Peru, Cuba, Serbia-Montenegro, North Korea, South Korea, Turkey, Cambodia, and People's Republic of China.
Visitors obtaining those visas must enter and exit through the airports or seaports or border crossing post officially approved as an “International Gateway” by the Indonesian Immigration department.
On August 20, 2013 citizens of Iran visas on arrival has been cancelled.

SHORT VISIT TOURISTS VISA ISSUED ON ARRIVAL

Citizens from 63 countries and 1 region are eligible to apply for a Visa on Arrival (VOA). This visa can be applied for after you have landed at certain airports and seaports in Indonesia. The Visa on Arrival cannot be converted or extended to obtain an immigration permit. The maximum stay permitted by the visa on arrival is 30 days.

Those 62 countries and 1 region are as follows:


Argentina
Australia
Austria
Algeria
Bahrain
Belgium
Brazil
Bulgaria
Czech Republic
Cambodia
Canada
China
Cyprus
Denmark
Egypt
Estonia
Fiji
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Iceland
India
Iran
Ireland
Italy
Japan
Kuwait
Laos
Latvia
Lybia Lithuania
Liechtenstein
Luxembourg
Maldives
Malta
Mexico
Monaco
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Oman
Panama
Poland
Portugal
Qatar
Romania
Russia
Saudi Arabia
Slovak Republic
Slovenia
South Africa
South Korea
Spain
Surinam
Sweden
Switzerland
Taiwan, ROT
Tunisia
Timor Leste
United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom
USA
Visa On Arrival may only be extended upon approval from the Director General of Immigration of the Republic of Indonesia in case of natural disaster, illness or accident, but cannot be transferred to another type of visa. Overstay visitors incur to pay a penalty of US$20.- per day/person (for under 60 days stay) whilst over 60 days stay will be a 5 (five) year prison sentence or a fine of IDR25.000.000 (local currency).

ENTRY REQUIREMENTS FOR VISA ON ARRIVAL (VOA)
– Passport must be valid for a minimum of 6 (six) months as from the date of entry into Indonesia.
– Onward or return tickets are compulsory
– Compulsory vaccinations
– Visitors must enter through the following airports and seaports in Indonesia.

There are 20 (twenty) Airports and 23 (twenty three) Seaports across Indonesia, etc etc…
When can you renew a passport btw? Mine expired in 1984, am I too late?
Feb 16, 2014 1:00 AM CST Australia is expected to provide a dumping ground by Indonesian Government
which countries passport ?

Kiwi gov have this page

(,,,,,,,,,)

think if long time has passed you need to provide more info, like birth certificate and people vouchers that have known you for bla bla
Feb 16, 2014 1:05 AM CST Australia is expected to provide a dumping ground by Indonesian Government
itsimpossible
itsimpossibleitsimpossibleBrisbane, Queensland Australia4 Threads 777 Posts
robplum: which countries passport ?

Kiwi gov have this page

(,,,,,,,,,)

think if long time has passed you need to provide more info, like birth certificate and people vouchers that have known you for bla bla
Things were so much easier in the old days, like 30 years ago. Do they want your fingerprints and DNA these days? If not soon they will.
Feb 16, 2014 1:07 AM CST Australia is expected to provide a dumping ground by Indonesian Government
an aussie used to be able to get application form from post office

just google all the information you need is on the other side of your computers keyboard
Feb 16, 2014 11:56 PM CST Australia is expected to provide a dumping ground by Indonesian Government
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
itsimpossible: When can you renew a passport btw? Mine expired in 1984, am I too late?


Aussie Passports last for 10 years and can be re-issued (I think) within 1 year of expiry without having to start all over again. If you are like me and don't use it very much, it is easy to let it expire. Last time I used it 2004 and it had plenty of time left on it.

I went to use mine as a form of ID a few years ago and it was not acceptable because it was out of date by over 1 year.

Unless I win one of those competitions I never enter, unlikely I will need a passport, unless I need one to go to Tassie.
Feb 17, 2014 2:57 AM CST Australia is expected to provide a dumping ground by Indonesian Government
gold71
gold71gold71Cairns, Queensland Australia25 Threads 339 Posts
About time the Aussie government is doing something about the illegal arrivals by people smugglers.
Indonesia was treating us as fools and getting away with it for far too long. At least the abbott government is doing something right, even though I can't stand the little john howard wannabe!mumbling
Feb 17, 2014 3:22 AM CST Australia is expected to provide a dumping ground by Indonesian Government
yeah the liberal howard flunky's disposed of sunii saddam hussein and current government in indonesia supports sunii, apposes assad, apposes iran and current government in iraq.
Indonesia even without a war has more than 500,000 duds carrying arms, 250,000 in there defence force alone and it shouldn't be forgotten any of them could transit to australia with a tinny and outboard motor.
Besides that continually lying in foreign affairs compounds all issues, is nonconstructive, its dangerous and morally wrong
Feb 18, 2014 4:23 PM CST Australia is expected to provide a dumping ground by Indonesian Government
Mrwilling
MrwillingMrwillingBundaberg, Queensland Australia2 Threads 67 Posts
Retired Qc robplum?
The indos would be just catching up, poms dumped their refuse here long ago.
Now that would have been a funny scenario indigenous paddling out in canoes and turning back the ships. Quick hard to starboard helmsman, they have spears and clubs, could get a nasty splinter.
Rule of law and regulations, what a joke!
So many times I have seen these jokes abused by those in power.
Would there be so many refuges if systems weren't so corrupt?
very mad
Feb 18, 2014 5:31 PM CST Australia is expected to provide a dumping ground by Indonesian Government
yeah well the rule of law is supposed to provide a platform to settle disputes on, look at the number of children that have been killed form the family court fleecing of the families of Australia by member of the judiciary, the political dirty tricks (mainly Liberal party) e.g. Pauline Hansen, now the laughing stock of the world Craig Thompson convection, a convection for using an entertainment card given to him for to use with legitimate entertainment services, now the use of tax paying entertainment services are been described as obtaining money by deception; the answer two days agolaugh
The state of law is clearly on a slippery sloop, emotionally driven clowns including our politicians who are no longer representing the views of the people on the floor of parliament, nor even as Howard demonstrated in taking Australia into a war without consulting Parliament nor either are the elected servants views being listened to in the house of parliament.
Probably same in Indonesia as in most so called democratic countries..
Feb 19, 2014 3:34 AM CST Australia is expected to provide a dumping ground by Indonesian Government
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
Good News
from
Downing Street
concerning
Pensions and Benefits


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If I Hear Anything Else,
I'll Let You Know
Feb 19, 2014 3:35 AM CST Australia is expected to provide a dumping ground by Indonesian Government
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
Lookin4missright: Good News
from
Downing Street
concerning
Pensions and Benefits


??? ??? ??? ???? ???? ???? ??? ????? ? ??? ???? ?? ??? ???? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ????. ? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???? ???? ???? ??? ????? ? ??? ???? ?? ??? ???? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ????. ???? ????? ? ??? ???? ?? ??? ???? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???? ???????? ??? ????? ? ??????? ?????? ????? ? ??? ???? ?? ??? ???? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???? ???????? ??? ????? ? ??? ?????????? ???? ???


If I Hear Anything Else,
I'll Let You Know





rolling on the floor laughing did'nt work out confused dunno laugh
Feb 19, 2014 3:38 AM CST Australia is expected to provide a dumping ground by Indonesian Government
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,957 Posts
Lookin4missright: did'nt work out



Lol I've tried that too and got the same result, what's with that laugh
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