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Apr 3, 2014 3:42 PM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
Torless
TorlessTorlessChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand9 Threads 1,499 Posts
I was kind of interested by this, seems we are right up there



New Zealand is the most socially advanced nation in the world, according to a new global index published today.

New Zealand topped the Social Progress Index (SPI) of 132 countries ranked on social and environmental performance by the US-based nonprofit, the Social Progress Imperative.

"New Zealand's ranking as the most socially progressive nation on Earth is is an exceptional result," Social Progress Imperative executive directive Michael Green said.

The top five countries in order were New Zealand, Switzerland, Netherlands, Iceland, and Norway.

The SPI defined social progress as: "The capacity of a society to meet the basic human needs of its citizens, establish the building blocks that allow citizens and communities to enhance and sustain the quality of their lives, and create the conditions for all individuals to reach their full potential."

Eighty years after gross domestic product was first conceived, SPI was designed to offer another - more wholesome - way to measure national performance.

Green said the researchers had decided to exclude GDP so it could be compared with social progress.

Under three main categories - basic human needs, foundations of wellbeing, and opportunity - 12 components, further split into 54 indicators, determined overall ratings.

New Zealand ranked first overall in opportunity, and had the best score in 20 components, including measures of homicide, corruption, religious tolerance, personal freedom and choice, secondary school enrolment, and press freedoms.

The result was particularly impressive in the context of New Zealand's "relative economic weakness" compared to countries that finished much lower on the SPI, Green said.

"People always say it's going to be the Scandinavians who come top, and they have done well," Green said.

"But what's striking about New Zealand's result is that it has only the 25th GDP in the world. Per capita, that's half of Norway's. On half the income, NZ can show higher social progress than Norway."

New Zealand did not have any specific weaknesses on the SPI, Green said, but its lowest scoring indicator - at 115th globally - was obesity.

New Zealand also ranked poorly in suicide - 76th globally.

Green said the project highlighted where there were data gaps, such as violence against women.

"One of the things we want to highlight as part of this report is that we're using the best available data that's globally comparable. But there are data gaps."

SPI allowed individual countries to benchmark themselves against peer countries, both at the level of individual indicators as well as overall.
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"If you want to be a successful country, it's so much more than economic growth," Green said.

"If we drive our world on GDP alone, we're going to miss so much.grin
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Apr 3, 2014 5:27 PM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
Torless: I was kind of interested by this, seems we are right up there
New Zealand is the most socially advanced nation in the world, according to a new global index published today.

New Zealand topped the Social Progress Index (SPI) of 132 countries ranked on social and environmental performance by the US-based nonprofit, the Social Progress Imperative.

"New Zealand's ranking as the most socially progressive nation on Earth is is an exceptional result," Social Progress Imperative executive directive Michael Green said.

The top five countries in order were New Zealand, Switzerland, Netherlands, Iceland, and Norway.

The SPI defined social progress as: "The capacity of a society to meet the basic human needs of its citizens, establish the building blocks that allow citizens and communities to enhance and sustain the quality of their lives, and create the conditions for all individuals to reach their full potential."

Eighty years after gross domestic product was first conceived, SPI was designed to offer another - more wholesome - way to measure national performance.

Green said the researchers had decided to exclude GDP so it could be compared with social progress.

Under three main categories - basic human needs, foundations of wellbeing, and opportunity - 12 components, further split into 54 indicators, determined overall ratings.

New Zealand ranked first overall in opportunity, and had the best score in 20 components, including measures of homicide, corruption, religious tolerance, personal freedom and choice, secondary school enrolment, and press freedoms.

The result was particularly impressive in the context of New Zealand's "relative economic weakness" compared to countries that finished much lower on the SPI, Green said.

"People always say it's going to be the Scandinavians who come top, and they have done well," Green said.

"But what's striking about New Zealand's result is that it has only the 25th GDP in the world. Per capita, that's half of Norway's. On half the income, NZ can show higher social progress than Norway."

New Zealand did not have any specific weaknesses on the SPI, Green said, but its lowest scoring indicator - at 115th globally - was obesity.

New Zealand also ranked poorly in suicide - 76th globally.

Green said the project highlighted where there were data gaps, such as violence against women.

"One of the things we want to highlight as part of this report is that we're using the best available data that's globally comparable. But there are data gaps."

SPI allowed individual countries to benchmark themselves against peer countries, both at the level of individual indicators as well as overall.
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"If you want to be a successful country, it's so much more than economic growth," Green said.

"If we drive our world on GDP alone, we're going to miss so much.


totally agree. GDP rewards the destruction of value, and doesn't account for environmental damage, and it doesn't account for quality-of-life. Better indicators exist, such as the Genuine Progress Indicator.

Why do we pay so much attention to total GDP growth and so little to "Gini"? Because the plutocrats love it. Maybe it makes sense for the US to focus on raw GDP so they can kick China's but any policies that operate globally should be based on measures of the common man's well-being (e.g., real median income) and economic balance (e.g., Gini coefficients).

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Apr 4, 2014 1:42 AM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
Torless
TorlessTorlessChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand9 Threads 1,499 Posts
Bogart_1960: totally agree. GDP rewards the destruction of value, and doesn't account for environmental damage, and it doesn't account for quality-of-life. Better indicators exist, such as the Genuine Progress Indicator.

Why do we pay so much attention to total GDP growth and so little to "Gini"? Because the plutocrats love it. Maybe it makes sense for the US to focus on raw GDP so they can kick China's but any policies that operate globally should be based on measures of the common man's well-being (e.g., real median income) and economic balance (e.g., Gini coefficients).


Interesting :)
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Apr 4, 2014 1:43 AM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
Torless
TorlessTorlessChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand9 Threads 1,499 Posts
LOl Mdd....
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Apr 4, 2014 1:59 AM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
itsimpossible
itsimpossibleitsimpossibleBrisbane, Queensland Australia4 Threads 777 Posts
Well done...
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Apr 4, 2014 2:11 AM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
Torless
TorlessTorlessChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand9 Threads 1,499 Posts
itsimpossible: Well done...


well from an ozzie thats great grin
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Apr 4, 2014 5:23 AM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
Well done New Zealand yay
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Apr 4, 2014 5:32 AM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
Onlyguyonline now!
Onlyguyonline now!OnlyguyKelowna, British Columbia Canada1 Threads 841 Posts
You're doing great NZ, Canada was 7th, I'm not sure where Australia stands.
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Apr 4, 2014 6:47 AM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Torless: I was kind of interested by this, seems we are right up there
New Zealand is the most socially advanced nation in the world, according to a new global index published today.

New Zealand topped the Social Progress Index (SPI) of 132 countries ranked on social and environmental performance by the US-based nonprofit, the Social Progress Imperative.

"New Zealand's ranking as the most socially progressive nation on Earth is is an exceptional result," Social Progress Imperative executive directive Michael Green said.

The top five countries in order were New Zealand, Switzerland, Netherlands, Iceland, and Norway.

The SPI defined social progress as: "The capacity of a society to meet the basic human needs of its citizens, establish the building blocks that allow citizens and communities to enhance and sustain the quality of their lives, and create the conditions for all individuals to reach their full potential."


Eighty years after gross domestic product was first conceived, SPI was designed to offer another - more wholesome - way to measure national performance.

Green said the researchers had decided to exclude GDP so it could be compared with social progress.

Under three main categories - basic human needs, foundations of wellbeing, and opportunity - 12 components, further split into 54 indicators, determined overall ratings.

New Zealand ranked first overall in opportunity, and had the best score in 20 components, including measures of homicide, corruption, religious tolerance, personal freedom and choice, secondary school enrolment, and press freedoms.

The result was particularly impressive in the context of New Zealand's "relative economic weakness" compared to countries that finished much lower on the SPI, Green said.

"People always say it's going to be the Scandinavians who come top, and they have done well," Green said.

"But what's striking about New Zealand's result is that it has only the 25th GDP in the world. Per capita, that's half of Norway's. On half the income, NZ can show higher social progress than Norway."

New Zealand did not have any specific weaknesses on the SPI, Green said, but its lowest scoring indicator - at 115th globally - was obesity.

New Zealand also ranked poorly in suicide - 76th globally
.

Green said the project highlighted where there were data gaps, such as violence against women.

"One of the things we want to highlight as part of this report is that we're using the best available data that's globally comparable. But there are data gaps."

SPI allowed individual countries to benchmark themselves against peer countries, both at the level of individual indicators as well as overall.
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"If you want to be a successful country, it's so much more than economic growth," Green said.

"If we drive our world on GDP alone, we're going to miss so much.


Maybe the quest for (real) human happiness is better served by a little less ease and a little more struggle.

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Apr 4, 2014 6:53 AM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Obstinance_Works: Maybe the quest for (real) human happiness is better served by a little less ease and a little more struggle.



If social "progress" was the measure of happiness, the SWPL would be happier than the proles, but they most certainly are not.
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Apr 4, 2014 7:39 AM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
Onlyguyonline now!
Onlyguyonline now!OnlyguyKelowna, British Columbia Canada1 Threads 841 Posts
Onlyguy: You're doing great NZ, Canada was 7th, I'm not sure where Australia stands.


I just found out Australia ranked 10th
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Apr 4, 2014 8:21 AM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
itsimpossible
itsimpossibleitsimpossibleBrisbane, Queensland Australia4 Threads 777 Posts
Being "socially advanced" doesn't mean you are happy.
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Apr 4, 2014 9:45 AM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
pedalguy59
pedalguy59pedalguy59Burlington, Ontario Canada28 Threads 1 Polls 6,976 Posts
I had a feeling I was not worthy.wink
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Apr 4, 2014 3:57 PM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
Torless
TorlessTorlessChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand9 Threads 1,499 Posts
rebel2: Well done New Zealand


Thanks Reb, I was surprised actually
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Apr 4, 2014 3:59 PM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
Torless
TorlessTorlessChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand9 Threads 1,499 Posts
Onlyguy: You're doing great NZ, Canada was 7th, I'm not sure where Australia stands.


Aussie was from memory in the top few, USA 16.

Iceland, Norway Switz were up there,
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Apr 4, 2014 4:01 PM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
Torless
TorlessTorlessChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand9 Threads 1,499 Posts
Obstinance_Works: If social "progress" was the measure of happiness, the SWPL would be happier than the proles, but they most certainly are not.


It was more a measure of quality of life minus GDP...so a better measure...If it was on GDP Norway I am sure would be number one.

Its interesting, I think
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Apr 4, 2014 4:03 PM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
Torless
TorlessTorlessChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand9 Threads 1,499 Posts
pedalguy59: I had a feeling I was not worthy.


pedal of course you are....Canada is up there too.grin
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Apr 4, 2014 4:10 PM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
I like New . Tor ain,t bad either bbteddybear
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Apr 4, 2014 4:37 PM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Torless: I was kind of interested by this, seems we are right up there
New Zealand is the most socially advanced nation in the world, according to a new global index published today.

New Zealand topped the Social Progress Index (SPI) of 132 countries ranked on social and environmental performance by the US-based nonprofit, the Social Progress Imperative.

"New Zealand's ranking as the most socially progressive nation on Earth is is an exceptional result," Social Progress Imperative executive directive Michael Green said.

The top five countries in order were New Zealand, Switzerland, Netherlands, Iceland, and Norway.

The SPI defined social progress as: "The capacity of a society to meet the basic human needs of its citizens, establish the building blocks that allow citizens and communities to enhance and sustain the quality of their lives, and create the conditions for all individuals to reach their full potential."

Eighty years after gross domestic product was first conceived, SPI was designed to offer another - more wholesome - way to measure national performance.

Green said the researchers had decided to exclude GDP so it could be compared with social progress.

Under three main categories - basic human needs, foundations of wellbeing, and opportunity - 12 components, further split into 54 indicators, determined overall ratings.

New Zealand ranked first overall in opportunity, and had the best score in 20 components, including measures of homicide, corruption, religious tolerance, personal freedom and choice, secondary school enrolment, and press freedoms.

The result was particularly impressive in the context of New Zealand's "relative economic weakness" compared to countries that finished much lower on the SPI, Green said.

"People always say it's going to be the Scandinavians who come top, and they have done well," Green said.

"But what's striking about New Zealand's result is that it has only the 25th GDP in the world. Per capita, that's half of Norway's. On half the income, NZ can show higher social progress than Norway."

New Zealand did not have any specific weaknesses on the SPI, Green said, but its lowest scoring indicator - at 115th globally - was obesity.

New Zealand also ranked poorly in suicide - 76th globally.

Green said the project highlighted where there were data gaps, such as violence against women.

"One of the things we want to highlight as part of this report is that we're using the best available data that's globally comparable. But there are data gaps."

SPI allowed individual countries to benchmark themselves against peer countries, both at the level of individual indicators as well as overall.
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"If you want to be a successful country, it's so much more than economic growth," Green said.

"If we drive our world on GDP alone, we're going to miss so much.

I have met just only one person from NZ -for real- and she was a vegetarian and a very kind person. She was a good ambassador from NZ.(we met in a common trip to Turkey)

What about the earthquakes?
Will mother earth respect the most the most socially advanced nation in the world?.


uncertain

wave
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Apr 4, 2014 5:23 PM CST NZ tops socially advanced nations
Torless
TorlessTorlessChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand9 Threads 1,499 Posts
tomcatwarne: I like New . Tor ain,t bad either bb


thanks james Bond laugh
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