chris27292729: My post No 1 starts ""Is reported"" and you ask me if i knew the father of the children????
No, I didn't ask you if you knew the father of the children, I asked you if you knew that he had been convicted of child molestation.
You've read a media report that he was convicted of child molestation. That's not the same as knowing.
If he has been convicted of child molestation, then as far as I'm concerned there's no way he should be allowed anywhere near a child, whether it's his own, or someone else's.
If he has been convicted of child molestation, why did the surrogacy agency allow this to go ahead?
However, if the allegation of the child molestation conviction is media hype and you're repeating it, you're potentially contributing to this man and his family being at serious risk and having their lives totally ruined, or worse, ending up dead. I didn't see you introducing the subject of the conviction with 'it has been reported'.
I take on board that your OP was qualified with 'is reported', but you ended you OP with "My question is,would you do the same,as the Aussie couple did????" not "Would you do the same as the Aussie couple are alleged to have done?"
I think you have a certain responsibility when creating threads that you create a discussion, not just an opportunity for people to engage in drama and feeding their own needs at the expense of others, who may, or may not be guilty of that which they have been accused in the media.
chris27292729: Sorry Cc, my post No 1 starts """Is reported". It is obvious some billions including myself """dote on everything the news medias are reporting/printing""" and as you ""don't fall for the stuff"",why then took the trouble to post in this thread is beyond me.
I replied to this thread because you used the words 'Reported' not something that you knew for yourself.
You have no idea if the father is the kind of person that the media is portraying him to be.Or that the parents don't/didn't really want the other twin.
I wouldn't make a very good reporter cause I wouldn't be printing something that could destroy other peoples lives.
chris27292729: Is reported, that a Thai 21 years old,hired by an Australian couple as a surrogate mother,gave birth to twins.One of the twins was born with Down Syndrome.Then the couple collected the healthy baby (a girl)and off to Aussie land,leaving behind the Down Syndome baby. My question is,would you do the same,as the Aussie couple did????
They have a point... post the link to the original news piece, Chris.
The Australian couple at the centre of the much publicised story concerning the apparent abandonment of a surrogate baby with Down’s syndrome have said they were unaware of the child’s existence.
Last week, it was reported that the unnamed couple paid a Thai surrogate mother to have their children but refused to take one of the twin children born, a boy named Gammy, after they learned he had Down’ syndrome.
Australian media is now citing that the couple, who took six-month-old Gammy’s healthy twin sister into their care, were told by the surrogacy agency that only one child was born.
Quoted by Australia's Channel Nine and ABC News, the Western Australian couple said that this surrogacy agency is no longer in operation but that they were shocked that surrogate mother Pattharamon Janbua (21) gave birth to twins.
Ms Pattharamon has previously expressed no anger at the apparent rejection of Gammy by the couple but maintains that they were aware of his existence and that the biological father visited the twins at a hospital in Bangkok.
“I am very upset that the father said like that. I really want him to come to Thailand to see me … I would like to talk with him in front of the media,” she told Fairfax Media
“No one can lie and the truth will come in the public … people who don’t know me will think that I’m a bad person."
Start complain to the media first,telling them, they don't do their jobs,according your believes and wishes.- All i know off about the father is. the Aussie Media claim, they found out, that the father has a conviction as a child molester 13 years ago,and that his wife,when reminded about his conviction,Replyed """Now is a good man"" .
Ccincy: I replied to this thread because you used the words 'Reported' not something that you knew for yourself.
You have no idea if the father is the kind of person that the media is portraying him to be.Or that the parents don't/didn't really want the other twin.I wouldn't make a very good reporter cause I wouldn't be printing something that could destroy other peoples lives.
chris27292729: Start complain to the media first,telling them, they don't do their jobs,according your believes and wishes.- All i know off about the father is. the Aussie Media claim, they found out, that the father has a conviction as a child molester 13 years ago,and that his wife,when reminded about his conviction,Replyed """Now is a good man"" .
Bingo,There you go with your one sentence.Quote/"All I know off about the father is",The Aussie claim'./Quote
No actual proof only going by what the media prints.
ALLEGED???? The Aussie PM has made a stateman and a minister as well.Donations poor in Aussie,for litle Gammy (the boys name).Google,"Thai boy with Down Syndrome"" pages upon pages for the subject. Next time Jac,i will consult you, on how to place my wording in a thread. Tough luck for those,who disagree,with the wording of this thread.-
jac_the_gripper: No, I didn't ask you if you knew the father of the children, I asked you if you knew that he had been convicted of child molestation.
You've read a media report that he was convicted of child molestation. That's not the same as knowing.
If he has been convicted of child molestation, then as far as I'm concerned there's no way he should be allowed anywhere near a child, whether it's his own, or someone else's.
If he has been convicted of child molestation, why did the surrogacy agency allow this to go ahead?
However, if the allegation of the child molestation conviction is media hype and you're repeating it, you're potentially contributing to this man and his family being at serious risk and having their lives totally ruined, or worse, ending up dead. I didn't see you introducing the subject of the conviction with 'it has been reported'.
I take on board that your OP was qualified with 'is reported', but you ended you OP with "My question is,would you do the same,as the Aussie couple did????" not "Would you do the same as the Aussie couple are alleged to have done?"
I think you have a certain responsibility when creating threads that you create a discussion, not just an opportunity for people to engage in drama and feeding their own needs at the expense of others, who may, or may not be guilty of that which they have been accused in the media.
chris27292729: ALLEGED???? The Aussie PM has made a stateman and a minister as well.Donations poor in Aussie,for litle Gammy (the boys name).Google,"Thai boy with Down Syndrome"" pages upon pages for the subject. Next time Jac,i will consult you, on how to place my wording in a thread. Tough luck for those,who disagree,with the wording of this thread.-
The Australian couple at the centre of the much publicised story concerning the apparent abandonment of a surrogate baby with Down’s syndrome have said they were unaware of the child’s existence.
Last week, it was reported that the unnamed couple paid a Thai surrogate mother to have their children but refused to take one of the twin children born, a boy named Gammy, after they learned he had Down’ syndrome.
Australian media is now citing that the couple, who took six-month-old Gammy’s healthy twin sister into their care, were told by the surrogacy agency that only one child was born.
Quoted by Australia's Channel Nine and ABC News, the Western Australian couple said that this surrogacy agency is no longer in operation but that they were shocked that surrogate mother Pattharamon Janbua (21) gave birth to twins.
Ms Pattharamon has previously expressed no anger at the apparent rejection of Gammy by the couple but maintains that they were aware of his existence and that the biological father visited the twins at a hospital in Bangkok.
“I am very upset that the father said like that. I really want him to come to Thailand to see me … I would like to talk with him in front of the media,” she told Fairfax Media
“No one can lie and the truth will come in the public … people who don’t know me will think that I’m a bad person."
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No, I didn't ask you if you knew the father of the children, I asked you if you knew that he had been convicted of child molestation.
You've read a media report that he was convicted of child molestation. That's not the same as knowing.
If he has been convicted of child molestation, then as far as I'm concerned there's no way he should be allowed anywhere near a child, whether it's his own, or someone else's.
If he has been convicted of child molestation, why did the surrogacy agency allow this to go ahead?
However, if the allegation of the child molestation conviction is media hype and you're repeating it, you're potentially contributing to this man and his family being at serious risk and having their lives totally ruined, or worse, ending up dead. I didn't see you introducing the subject of the conviction with 'it has been reported'.
I take on board that your OP was qualified with 'is reported', but you ended you OP with "My question is,would you do the same,as the Aussie couple did????" not "Would you do the same as the Aussie couple are alleged to have done?"
I think you have a certain responsibility when creating threads that you create a discussion, not just an opportunity for people to engage in drama and feeding their own needs at the expense of others, who may, or may not be guilty of that which they have been accused in the media.