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Jun 1, 2015 6:22 AM CST USA-1/USSR-1
DertyHarry44
DertyHarry44DertyHarry44Lakeland, Florida USA91 Threads 1,102 Posts
In 1968, a submarine-usa, disappeared mysteriously somewhere South Pacific, 30 days later another submarine-ussr had in same area had same fate.

Who said USA and USSR never confronted each other face to face during cold war??? The 2 countries admitted the incident, never gave explanation whatsoever.beer
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Jun 1, 2015 6:28 AM CST USA-1/USSR-1
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Several views of a Project 629A (Golf II) ballistic missile submarine
K-129 was a Project 629A (NATO reporting name Golf-II) diesel-electric powered submarine of the Soviet Pacific Fleet, one of six Project 629 strategic ballistic missile submarines attached to the 15th Submarine Squadron based at Rybachiy Naval Base, Kamchatka, commanded by Rear Admiral Rudolf A. Golosov.


In January 1968, the 15th Submarine Squadron was part of the 29th Ballistic Missile Division at Rybachiy, commanded by Admiral Viktor A. Dygalo. K-129??'?s commander was Captain First Rank V.I. Kobzar. K-129 carried hull number 722 on her final deployment during which she sank on 8 March 1968. It was one of four mysterious submarine disappearances in 1968; the others being the Israeli submarine INS Dakar, the French submarine Minerve (S647) and the US submarine USS Scorpion (SSN-589). The Soviet Navy deployed a huge flotilla of ships to search for her but never found her wreck. The United States attempted to recover the boat in 1974 in a secret cold war-era effort named Project Azorian.


The vessel's position 4.8 kilometres (3.0 mi) below the surface was the greatest depth from which an attempt had been made to raise a ship. The cover story used was that the salvage vessel was engaged in commercial manganese nodule mining.
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Jun 1, 2015 6:45 AM CST USA-1/USSR-1
DertyHarry44
DertyHarry44DertyHarry44Lakeland, Florida USA91 Threads 1,102 Posts
tomcatwarne: Several views of a Project 629A (Golf II) ballistic missile submarine
K-129 was a Project 629A (NATO reporting name Golf-II) diesel-electric powered submarine of the Soviet Pacific Fleet, one of six Project 629 strategic ballistic missile submarines attached to the 15th Submarine Squadron based at Rybachiy Naval Base, Kamchatka, commanded by Rear Admiral Rudolf A. Golosov.In January 1968, the 15th Submarine Squadron was part of the 29th Ballistic Missile Division at Rybachiy, commanded by Admiral Viktor A. Dygalo. K-129??'?s commander was Captain First Rank V.I. Kobzar. K-129 carried hull number 722 on her final deployment during which she sank on 8 March 1968. It was one of four mysterious submarine disappearances in 1968; the others being the Israeli submarine INS Dakar, the French submarine Minerve (S647) and the US submarine USS Scorpion (SSN-589). The Soviet Navy deployed a huge flotilla of ships to search for her but never found her wreck. The United States attempted to recover the boat in 1974 in a secret cold war-era effort named Project Azorian. The vessel's position 4.8 kilometres (3.0 mi) below the surface was the greatest depth from which an attempt had been made to raise a ship. The cover story used was that the salvage vessel was engaged in commercial manganese nodule mining.


the usa did recover part of the soviet sub/it was a CIA ops camouflaged as looking for oil part of the soviet remains
was given a navy style bury was filmed by Americans and a copy
of that burial was given to the soviets. I can't remember the name of the guy in charged of this operation he was an industrialist film maker, millionair and working for CIA, can you come up with his name?
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Jun 1, 2015 6:51 AM CST USA-1/USSR-1
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
DertyHarry44: the usa did recover part of the soviet sub/it was a CIA ops camouflaged as looking for oil part of the soviet remains
was given a navy style bury was filmed by Americans and a copy
of that burial was given to the soviets. I can't remember the name of the guy in charged of this operation he was an industrialist film maker, millionair and working for CIA, can you come up with his name?


It's a bit daft having a complex cover story, if they told the Ruskiesall about it afterdoh
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Jun 1, 2015 6:58 AM CST USA-1/USSR-1
DertyHarry44
DertyHarry44DertyHarry44Lakeland, Florida USA91 Threads 1,102 Posts
tomcatwarne: It's a bit daft having a complex cover story, if they told the Ruskiesall about it after


the soviet already knew/while usa doing opration soviets were

watching close on their ships/the usa rescue ship had a name, I'm trying to recover my memory and like I said both admitted those incidents and the theory is a 2nd usa sub came and hunted and sank the other soviet sub/just a theory/but plausible?
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Jun 1, 2015 7:02 AM CST USA-1/USSR-1
Lolette
LoletteLoletteLe Mans, Pays de la Loire France15 Threads 1,691 Posts
DertyHarry44: In 1968, a submarine-usa, disappeared mysteriously somewhere South Pacific, 30 days later another submarine-ussr had in same area had same fate.

Who said USA and USSR never confronted each other face to face during cold war??? The 2 countries admitted the incident, never gave explanation whatsoever.



Submarines are somewhat drunk sometimes ,, they bang on anything, even on small fishermen's boat ,, and they go away as fast as they can so nobody noticed their presence ,,,laugh laugh laugh rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing peace
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Jun 1, 2015 7:06 AM CST USA-1/USSR-1
DertyHarry44
DertyHarry44DertyHarry44Lakeland, Florida USA91 Threads 1,102 Posts
Lolette: Submarines are somewhat drunk sometimes ,, they bang on anything, even on small fishermen's boat ,, and they go away as fast as they can so nobody noticed their presence ,,,


laugh you're right Lollete always banginglaugh
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Jun 1, 2015 7:23 AM CST USA-1/USSR-1
DertyHarry44
DertyHarry44DertyHarry44Lakeland, Florida USA91 Threads 1,102 Posts
tomcatwarne: It's a bit daft having a complex cover story, if they told the Ruskiesall about it after


tom/Howard Hugh was his name, he did cover ops for CIA since WW2 he was working for government

he designed the ship to rescued soviet sub
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Jun 1, 2015 9:07 AM CST USA-1/USSR-1
Ken_19
Ken_19Ken_19Winchester, Virginia USA68 Threads 26 Polls 1,055 Posts
None of the subs were sunk by other subs. They have all been located and nuclear warheads on all of them were recovered versus leaving them around for some salvage guy to claim.

The Soviet Golf class sub off the coast of Hawaii, K129 may have been part of a rogue KGB element (who had suddenly replaced many of the regular crew) attempting a first strike on the US. There are several books about this theory. It seems what sunk her was someone didn't unlock the missile hatch when an attempt was made to launch a nuke. Boom, sink. Was it a screw up by the new crew? Was is an accident? Was it an unknown Hero blocking a nuclear war? No one will ever know.
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Jun 1, 2015 10:38 AM CST USA-1/USSR-1
DertyHarry44
DertyHarry44DertyHarry44Lakeland, Florida USA91 Threads 1,102 Posts
Ken_19: None of the subs were sunk by other subs. They have all been located and nuclear warheads on all of them were recovered versus leaving them around for some salvage guy to claim.

The Soviet Golf class sub off the coast of Hawaii, K129 may have been part of a rogue KGB element (who had suddenly replaced many of the regular crew) attempting a first strike on the US. There are several books about this theory. It seems what sunk her was someone didn't unlock the missile hatch when an attempt was made to launch a nuke. Boom, sink. Was it a screw up by the new crew? Was is an accident? Was it an unknown Hero blocking a nuclear war? No one will ever know.


exactly, Howard Hugh knew to well, his death is also a theory
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Jun 1, 2015 10:55 AM CST USA-1/USSR-1
DertyHarry44
DertyHarry44DertyHarry44Lakeland, Florida USA91 Threads 1,102 Posts
Ken

in the Atlantic there's a soviet submarine that sank years ago

full with all nuclear war-heads waiting to explode and this sub

is right in front of USA east coast
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Jun 1, 2015 12:40 PM CST USA-1/USSR-1
DertyHarry44: exactly, Howard Hugh knew to well, his death is also a theory


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Jun 1, 2015 12:42 PM CST USA-1/USSR-1
DertyHarry44: exactly, Howard Hugh knew to well, his death is also a theory


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