GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ? ( Archived) (840)

Sep 24, 2015 7:53 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Obstinance_Works: Integration peaked in people my age at school and thereafter and has been going down ever since. When I was 15 I was more integrated within diversity than the vast majority of people.

Anyway the reason why integration is reversing is because of larger numbers of foreigners. A high school 50% native and 50% orc when I was a teen is now 30% native and 70% orc. As their numbers grow they stick to their own because there are enough of them to own a space.

Initially and when few in number they have no choice but to mix. When the area is only 10% muslim it cannot have a community/school/park/workplace entirely to itself.


This is why White liberals in New York and Chicago are less racially integrated than somewhere that's much more White.

Once diversity reaches critical mass the clannishness, the gangs, the enclaving and the White flighting kick in. The cities and towns most racially diverse in absolute terms are the least racially integrated on the street.
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Sep 24, 2015 7:58 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Babettefr: Indeed,, i came over to one of your link ,, that Britain has a high birth rate, and if this statistics could be pointed out as coming from the 70% orc,, then your government should work on this if it's not too late,, the tendance is already there,, they form a big community and if i got it right,, it should be the British to integrate in thier controlling space ,,


Cap child benefit to the first two children.

I do appreciate France's assimilationist policy. A good idea here would be to copy that whilst retaining our far better quality control at the border. It's not easy to get into England, but once you're in you can piss on us. Not anymore.
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Sep 24, 2015 8:12 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
Obstinance_Works: This is why White liberals in New York and Chicago are less racially integrated than somewhere that's much more White.

Once diversity reaches critical mass the clannishness, the gangs, the enclaving and the White flighting kick in. The cities and towns most racially diverse in absolute terms are the least racially integrated on the street.


And it boils down to gang wars ,,, segments fighting against each other for supremacy among the diverse races ,,,
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Sep 24, 2015 8:16 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
Obstinance_Works: Cap child benefit to the first two children.

I do appreciate France's assimilationist policy. A good idea here would be to copy that whilst retaining our far better quality control at the border. It's not easy to get into England, but once you're in you can piss on us. Not anymore.


Was listening to commentaries ,, most of these refugees has still the no 1 choice as UK ,, this morning another young girl was dead when trying to get into UK thru the tunnel, UK had that reputation of being extremely generous to incomers ,,,
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Sep 24, 2015 8:23 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
Babettefr: Indeed,, i came over to one of your link ,, that Britain has a high birth rate, and if this statistics could be pointed out as coming from the 70% orc,, then your government should work on this if it's not too late,, the tendance is already there,, they form a big community and if i got it right,, it should be the British to integrate in thier controlling space ,,



Going back to this 70% orc,, it's still interesting to note, of what it consists,, how many racial groups are in it,, Britain has commonwealth territories/ancient colonies, if you come out with individual counting,, logically the 30% natives/pure British/ could still be the majority block ,,, ?
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Sep 24, 2015 8:28 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Babettefr: Was listening to commentaries ,, most of these refugees has still the no 1 choice as UK ,, this morning another young girl was dead when trying to get into UK thru the tunnel, UK had that reputation of being extremely generous to incomers ,,,


And they get this impression from the people and not the state. The state is to the Right of the people and that's why our border policy is firmer, but our judges, courts and attitudes to foreigners in daily life are pure rabbit.

It's not our government luring refugees to their deaths. It's the numbers of people like Jac that are doing that. The British people look, talk, and act like a soft touch and the world knows it.
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Sep 24, 2015 8:57 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
In the context of a rabbit people Merkel's actions become far more forgivable. When you've got gullible idiots ordinary people offering up their homes to potentially dangerous strangers how can a government not offer up its borders?

Hungarian politics is making a stand because Hungarians are not rabbits. A democracy gets the government it deserves.
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Sep 24, 2015 9:19 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Baby boomers


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Baby Boomer" redirects here. For the video game, see Baby Boomer (video game). For further information, see Post–World War II baby boom.

United States birth rate (births per 1000 population). The red segment from 1946 to 1964 is the postwar baby boom, although birth rates begin to drop starting in 1960.
Baby boomers are people born during the demographic post–World War II baby boom approximately between the years 1946 and 1964.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the term "baby boomer" is also used in a cultural context. Therefore, it is impossible to achieve broad consensus of a precise date definition, even within a given territory. Different groups, organizations, individuals, and scholars may have widely varying opinions on what constitutes a baby boomer, both technically and culturally.
Ascribing universal attributes to a broad generation is difficult, and some observers believe that it is inherently impossible. Nonetheless, many people have attempted to determine the broad cultural similarities and historical impact of the generation, and thus the term has gained widespread popular usage.

Baby boomers are associated with a rejection or redefinition of traditional values; however, many commentators have disputed the extent of that rejection, noting the widespread continuity of values with older and younger generations. In Europe and North America boomers are widely associated with privilege, as many grew up in a time of widespread government subsidies in post-war housing and education, and increasing affluence.


As a group, they were the wealthiest, most active, and most physically fit generation up to that time, and amongst the first to grow up genuinely expecting the world to improve with time. They were also the generation that received peak levels of income; therefore, they could reap the benefits of abundant levels of food, apparel, retirement programs, and sometimes even "midlife crisis" products. The increased consumerism for this generation has been regularly criticized as excessive.

One feature of the boomers was that they tended to think of themselves as a special generation, very different from those that had come before. In the 1960s, as the relatively large numbers of young people became teenagers and young adults, they, and those around them, created a very specific rhetoric around their cohort, and the change they were bringing about.

This rhetoric had an important impact in the self perceptions of the boomers, as well as their tendency to define the world in terms of generations, which was a relatively new phenomenon. The baby boom has been described variously as a "shockwave" and as "the pig in the python."
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Sep 24, 2015 9:27 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Size and economic impact


Seventy-six million American children were born between 1945 and 1964, representing a cohort that is significant on account of its size alone. In 2004, the UK baby boomers held 80% of the UK's wealth and bought 80% of all top of the range cars, 80% of cruises and 50% of skincare products.

In addition to the size of the group, Steve Gillon has suggested that one thing that sets the baby boomers apart from other generational groups is the fact that "almost from the time they were conceived, Boomers were dissected, analyzed, and pitched to by modern marketers, who reinforced a sense of generational distinctiveness". This is supported by the articles of the late 1940s identifying the increasing number of babies as an economic boom, such as a 1948 Newsweek article whose title proclaimed "Babies Mean Business", or a 1948 Time magazine article.


The age wave theory suggests an economic slowdown when the boomers start retiring during 2007–2009. Projections for the aging U.S. workforce suggest that by 2020, 25% of employees will be at least 55 years old.

Baby boomers control over 80% of personal financial assets and more than half of all consumer spending. They buy 77% of all prescription drugs, 61% of over-the-counter drugs, and 80% of all leisure travel.[citation needed]

A survey found that nearly a third of baby boomers polled in the United States would prefer to pass on their inheritance to charities rather than pass it down to their children.
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Sep 24, 2015 9:38 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
There are so many reasons to feel disgraced by the boomers which could be the national debt and bankrupting the welfare state, broken homes and latchkey kids, or ethnic fractures and environmental ruin. Oh and the decline of the West. An epic fail unequaled in all of Human history.
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Sep 24, 2015 9:54 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
Obstinance_Works: white-black segregation because that, for various social and historical reasons, has been by far the most significant geographic separation in American cities,... the second most significant separation – white-Latino segregation – is also very extreme in New York.


And growing tensions with Muslim population in the US:



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Sep 24, 2015 10:09 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
And the children of the people who fought and died ti give the voice of freedom to their ungrateful grand children.

There is no sting sharper than the tooth of an ungrateful child. he chip on some peoples shoulder is against a generation of children who were born into the aftermath of war.

Picking up what was left.
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Sep 24, 2015 12:30 PM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
a bit corny but true:

European preservation
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Sep 24, 2015 12:40 PM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
And this is how Europeans are preserved:

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Sep 24, 2015 2:59 PM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
sjenaonline today!
sjenaonline today!sjenabrussels, Brussels (Bruxelles) Belgium119 Posts
Germany is Europa's islamization ,Trojan horse !
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Sep 24, 2015 3:41 PM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
A phylosopher's analysis of the situation:



"In escaping their war-torn homelands, the refugees are possessed by a dream. Refugees arriving in southern Italy do not want to stay there: many of them are trying to get to Scandinavia. The thousands of migrants in Calais are not satisfied with France: they are ready to risk their lives to enter the UK. Tens of thousands of refugees in Balkan countries are desperate to get to Germany. They assert their dreams as their unconditional right, and demand from the European authorities not only proper food and medical care but also transportation to the destination of their choice. There is something enigmatically utopian in this demand: as if it were the duty of Europe to realise their dreams – dreams which, incidentally, are out of reach of most Europeans (surely a good number of Southern and Eastern Europeans would prefer to live in Norway too?)."

He has many good points, I disagree with the statement that Muslim women should have a choice to use the headdress - to me this is just condoning a horrible custom and making it extremely difficult for the ones that do not want to cover themselves to stand up to the men in their families. The rule should be: you are in Europe, here we look at the face and in the eyes of a person we talk to; i.e. you can be covered all you want in your own apartment or house not in public places.
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Sep 24, 2015 3:50 PM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
OutsideofBali
OutsideofBaliOutsideofBaliBaden, Aargau Switzerland112 Posts
Capricorn143: a bit corny but true:

European preservation


Corny indeed rolling on the floor laughing I've been looking so hard for the "Jump-over-ad" button that I've missed the message and had to watch it again. No regrets.

Great food for thought:

I've seen an interview of Merkel saying that she will employ an extra of 3000 to process the asylum applications as fast as possible since mayority of those arriving aren't entilted to get asylum in the first place. Mayority of people who have risked their lifes and spend thousands of euros will have to go back to where they came from.
A lot of people are going to be very angry that the promised land they've paid up for isn't real.
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Sep 25, 2015 2:54 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
capri,,,wave

@ ,,The rule should be: you are in Europe, here we look at the face and in the eyes of a person we talk to; i.e. you can be covered all you want in your own apartment or house not in public places.

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For France,,, this had been passed as a law,, EU in it's integrality/legality could not dictate all the members as to how internal affairs could be runned by respective governing bodies as there is internal political bodies to be respected.

We can note how GERMANY carried out it's economic movements without the approval of the UE.
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Sep 25, 2015 3:04 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
Capricorn143: a bit corny but true:

European preservation


I think your stand and the rest of the new UE members like Tchécoslovaquie, Hungary and Slovakia ,, can be understood.
Your population lies between 10 million more or less,, small identity/country,, your identity will be phased out with the arrival of uncontrolable refugees,, situation which cannot be compared to other EU members who have a bigger identity, France, UK ,, or see,, the case of Germany who needs outside cheap labor supply.
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Sep 25, 2015 3:40 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
OutsideofBali: Corny indeed I've been looking so hard for the "Jump-over-ad" button that I've missed the message and had to watch it again. No regrets.

Great food for thought:

I've seen an interview of Merkel saying that she will employ an extra of 3000 to process the asylum applications as fast as possible since mayority of those arriving aren't entilted to get asylum in the first place. Mayority of people who have risked their lifes and spend thousands of euros will have to go back to where they came from.
A lot of people are going to be very angry that the promised land they've paid up for isn't real.



OutsideofBali,,wave

Corny, i think is not. Fears felt by the new UE members is understandable;

It can be noted that the old europe had been dealing with this asylum seekers/refugees long time ago as far as the after WW2 ,, even before the creation of the UE. FRANCE AND UK have ties with many of their ancient colonies and had been accomodating flows of immigrants from this colonies thus their exprience and laws had been long time meet into prove.

But this problem the Europe is facing at the moment, is from an unimaginable false move from Germany, or we can even ask what true reasons lies behind,,,?
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