GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ? (840)
sevenseas: USA is to blame for this mess.
Making a mess in middle east.
Supporting Israel.
Making a mess in middle east.
Supporting Israel.
And who are the supporters controling the US economy.?????
While black mailing the US economy to support Israel???
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Babettefr: kaetch,,,
I'm stunned to read this,,well i have heard that Germans are people who are exemplary on self-discipline, but then this imprisonment for airing our opinions, wow , we are one the 21st century now,, at this point i am grateful that i am in a society where the system is still controlled by human rights.
French government is aware how risky they expose the country if they don't exercise fairness and firmness.
I'm stunned to read this,,well i have heard that Germans are people who are exemplary on self-discipline, but then this imprisonment for airing our opinions, wow , we are one the 21st century now,, at this point i am grateful that i am in a society where the system is still controlled by human rights.
French government is aware how risky they expose the country if they don't exercise fairness and firmness.
Hi Babette, sorry I was exaggerating when I said people were brought to prison, but there have been amongst us that whenever we said something about migrants (with or without papers), it would have been enough to put us in trouble with authorities. Our Justice Minister, Heiko Maas, has been trying for weeks, if not for months, to negotiate with Facebook to delete those who have different opinions about this refugee policy.
Take a look for Pegida as an example, they are only voicing their minds and their refusal for future islamization in Germany, but it is enough for the authority to label them as people who are having hatred against foreigners or migrants. If these politicians bother to conduct a survey amongst migrants with formal papers and earlier time refugee, they will be shocked to see not few of them are also against the current policy towards illegal migrants in disguise of refugees
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sevenseas: USA is to blame for this mess.
Making a mess in middle east.
Supporting Israel.
Making a mess in middle east.
Supporting Israel.
The mess has been there for 1,400 years.
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kaetch,,
I was delighted to read that,,!!! Anyway,, it's always a great temptation to silence the voice of the people when leaders/politicians are manipulating something messy,, this is not new.
I was delighted to read that,,!!! Anyway,, it's always a great temptation to silence the voice of the people when leaders/politicians are manipulating something messy,, this is not new.
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Ooops I have posted the update in the wrong thread.
Update from Slovenia:
The mess on the broder with Croatia has been aleviated with the new way of handling migrants. Now Croatia sends migrants by trains directly to an agreed station in Slovenia. They get off the train to be registered, then they get on the train again and are transported to the Austrian border. This makes the whole process faster and easier to the migrants as they do not have to walk.
However, as expected, there is a mess on the Austrian border now.
Aerial footage of destruction after the migrants set fire to a camp on the border with Croatia.
Update from Slovenia:
The mess on the broder with Croatia has been aleviated with the new way of handling migrants. Now Croatia sends migrants by trains directly to an agreed station in Slovenia. They get off the train to be registered, then they get on the train again and are transported to the Austrian border. This makes the whole process faster and easier to the migrants as they do not have to walk.
However, as expected, there is a mess on the Austrian border now.
Aerial footage of destruction after the migrants set fire to a camp on the border with Croatia.
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updates ,,,
Tension between Austria and Germany about Autria's decision to close it's borders, quoted as saying,, it was Merkel who invited those immigrants/refugees then she should assume,,
Tension between Austria and Germany about Autria's decision to close it's borders, quoted as saying,, it was Merkel who invited those immigrants/refugees then she should assume,,
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EQandIQ2: According to the latest polls the British, French, Dutch and Danish people are very much against migration.
I wonder if their leaders will be strong enough to represent clearly the will of their own people in Brussels and when?
The bureaucrats of Brussels are talking again about penalties to those countries who don't want to follow the quota system...
I wonder if their leaders will be strong enough to represent clearly the will of their own people in Brussels and when?
The bureaucrats of Brussels are talking again about penalties to those countries who don't want to follow the quota system...
EQ,,
That's exact,, in fact, while some of the campers in Calais was transfered to South west of France (Dordogne) today to unclog the site ,,, there's a petition from from the locals against their accomodation,, for cause that there were existing demands for housing facilities from people (local inhabitants) in financial difficulty that was not treated.
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Capricorn143: Ooops I have posted the update in the wrong thread.
Update from Slovenia:
The mess on the broder with Croatia has been aleviated with the new way of handling migrants. Now Croatia sends migrants by trains directly to an agreed station in Slovenia. They get off the train to be registered, then they get on the train again and are transported to the Austrian border. This makes the whole process faster and easier to the migrants as they do not have to walk.
However, as expected, there is a mess on the Austrian border now.
Aerial footage of destruction after the migrants set fire to a camp on the border with Croatia.
Update from Slovenia:
The mess on the broder with Croatia has been aleviated with the new way of handling migrants. Now Croatia sends migrants by trains directly to an agreed station in Slovenia. They get off the train to be registered, then they get on the train again and are transported to the Austrian border. This makes the whole process faster and easier to the migrants as they do not have to walk.
However, as expected, there is a mess on the Austrian border now.
Aerial footage of destruction after the migrants set fire to a camp on the border with Croatia.
capri,,
It's certain that they will be clogged up in your Slovenia,, Austria will certainly build it's fence soon facing your borders,,
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EQandIQ2: Just heard in the mews that our Interior Minister received mails from different EU countries about returning back to us all together 40,000 migrants shortly who were registered here...
owww!!! Merkel is
,,,
is she the goddess of UE,, controversial this!!!
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EQandIQ2: Just heard in the mews that our Interior Minister received mails from different EU countries about returning back to us all together 40,000 migrants shortly who were registered here...
And the madness goes on and on
If you have any links with that news, please post. Boy that would be a cold shower to the authorities here, who keep on registering everyone hoping nothing like that will happen
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Capricorn143: And the madness goes on and on
If you have any links with that news, please post. Boy that would be a cold shower to the authorities here, who keep on registering everyone hoping nothing like that will happen
If you have any links with that news, please post. Boy that would be a cold shower to the authorities here, who keep on registering everyone hoping nothing like that will happen
capri,,here's a first link,,, but it is stated 19,000,, but well, what's the logic behind,,?
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Babettefr: capri,,here's a first link,,, but it is stated 19,000,, but well, what's the logic behind,,?
so this is it,,, THE DUBLIN 111 REGULATION STIPULATES ,,,,
The Dublin III regulation stipulates that if “illegal immigrants” are found within the European Union, they can be returned to the country through which they entered the EU.
Responding to a question posed by the opposition concerning the expected number of migrants to be returned to Hungary, Pintér said that 19,284 requests had been submitted to Hungary's immigration authority.
The minister added that 66,788 people have applied for political asylum since the beginning of the year and 43,000 of these requests were terminated, because the applicants had since left the country
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EQandIQ2: Just heard in the mews that our Interior Minister received mails from different EU countries about returning back to us all together 40,000 migrants shortly who were registered here...
so EQ,, what HUNGARY will be doing with all those that had been processed in your country?
According to the DUBLIN 111 Regulation,, your country is liable,,
Where are we now !!!! ?????
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A letter written by an Austrian major outraged with what is going on on the border.
In the last paragraph he compares the media with the band on the Titanic
In the last paragraph he compares the media with the band on the Titanic
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Babettefr: so EQ,, what HUNGARY will be doing with all those that had been processed in your country?
According to the DUBLIN 111 Regulation,, your country is liable,,
Where are we now !!!! ?????
According to the DUBLIN 111 Regulation,, your country is liable,,
Where are we now !!!! ?????
Well, Mr. Pintér was speaking in the TV about all together 40,000 migrants at the moment...
This year we have registered total 400,000 migrants... Out of this number only max 25% said that they are from Syria - what is even not sure for hundered precent - all the others from elsewhere which means the 75% have to be returned...
Well, I think better if I don't say anything...
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Babettefr: capri,,here's a first link,,, but it is stated 19,000,, but well, what's the logic behind,,?
Looks like it has moved from the diplomatic circle to the military one . Closing borders with minefields protected by machineguns the order of the day if the smaller states don't want to be destabilised .------ This thread is Archived ------
UPDATE
28.10.2015.
Budapest (MTI) – The level of protection for Prime Minister Viktor Orban and his family has been increased by the counter terrorism centre TEK due to illegal migration, the daily Magyar Idok said on Wednesday.
Increased protection for Orban and his environment, including his family, is necessary because security services have uncovered terrorist threats in connection with illegal migrants.
In addition to TEK, the national security services are also involved in protecting Orban.
Former deputy leader of the military secret services Jozsef Horvath said that raising the level of protection for Orban and his family was part of security protocol and TEK had no other option, the paper said.
28.10.2015.
Budapest (MTI) – The level of protection for Prime Minister Viktor Orban and his family has been increased by the counter terrorism centre TEK due to illegal migration, the daily Magyar Idok said on Wednesday.
Increased protection for Orban and his environment, including his family, is necessary because security services have uncovered terrorist threats in connection with illegal migrants.
In addition to TEK, the national security services are also involved in protecting Orban.
Former deputy leader of the military secret services Jozsef Horvath said that raising the level of protection for Orban and his family was part of security protocol and TEK had no other option, the paper said.
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epirb: Looks like it has moved from the diplomatic circle to the military one . Closing borders with minefields protected by machineguns the order of the day if the smaller states don't want to be destabilised .
epirb,,
Taken for granted, they will be closing and guard their frontiers now,,,
But at this instance,, those countries are already liable and forced to assume the large number of people that departed/processed in their respective countries, no matter how their size/capacity would be?
Now, this interior/prime ministers,, their capacity as a high ranking officials are in question.
Are this officers were aware of that DUBLIN 111 REGULATION? ,,,
And how would they present it to their people ???,, owww, if only i could be a mice,,, so i could penetrate into those secret negotiations.
the more i read, the more i'm mislead,, but then we have to seek informations and be aware.
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