GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ? ( Archived) (840)

Oct 23, 2015 2:19 PM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
pat8lanips: Germany? youse are farked.



Merkel is still hanging on to her action.
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Oct 23, 2015 2:25 PM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
Capricorn143: Thanks EQ
The funny thing is why have them all here at all? It must cost the state loads of money to provide for everyone before it is clear who can stay and who can't. Plus like Kaetch said to return only a small fraction of hundreds of thousands that came? Insignificant. But I guess we have to be happy that at least some will go back, if they don't disappear before that like the ones that have already vanished from the radar.


capri,,wave

I think, even if the number that will be sent back is insignificant,, it's the initiative that's important.
It could transmit a signal to those that are still planning to come,, to revise their intentions,, i'm hoping ....
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Oct 23, 2015 2:29 PM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
Capricorn143: Thanks EQ
The funny thing is why have them all here at all? It must cost the state loads of money to provide for everyone before it is clear who can stay and who can't. Plus like Kaetch said to return only a small fraction of hundreds of thousands that came? Insignificant. But I guess we have to be happy that at least some will go back, if they don't disappear before that like the ones that have already vanished from the radar.


capri,,

Had just watched the news, and it says Slovenia is closing it's access too ..... a big number arrived today ,, true? ,,,
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Oct 23, 2015 11:33 PM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
EQandIQ2: Hi Capri

Just for your nfi our govt/police sent you today upon your govt request yesterday a huge caminon of necessary assets to your police people helping them in their difficult duty.
And this is just the beginning...

Well, as to your question why, this is my question again and again since last spring when in the first four moths arrived here more migrants than during all 2013.

And this terrible exodus is the way of humanity and shows the good heart of the best people?!?!?!

They are cheated and suffer on the route, most of them will be disapponted and frustrated and we suffer and facing who knows what else...

And billions and billions are going to the pockets of the traffikers what the EU could give to the real victims of the war.

As you used to say, Madhouse.


Thanks EQ. I know we have asekd for help, bu we should have done that before, stupid politicians. QWe will need more and mroe help as this is just not manageable.



Here is the link to an interview from Spiegel with one of the mayors on the border: he states that the situation is almost like a war. Migrants are given what we can give them, a place ot sleep, food, water, blankets BUT they are not happy, so they refuse food and water, set fire to tents and then take selfies in front of the fire (???!!!) - this is their way of placing pressure on the authorities to let them move on to Germany.

The mayor says: If Germany really wants to help these people, why not gather them here, put them on trains, buses and ship them off to Germany!

I completely agree with him! (sorry Kaetch, but that s just the way it is, if Merkel/Germany insists on "helping" everyone, then she should not put these people through suffering and destroy the other countries at the same time)
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Oct 23, 2015 11:54 PM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
While the do-gooders insist on helping everyone, they are not helping the right people.

This is what those who could not afford to leave Syria say about their young men fleeing to Europe:

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Oct 24, 2015 1:10 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
Sorry Bab, I know you don't like Putin, but HOOORAY:

Scroll down in the link below to see the footage of how a bridge important to ISIS was destroyed. EU politicians instead of blindly following the US should side with Putin now. Assad is not the worse guys over there, he certainly is better than many the Americans and the EU are siding with.

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Oct 24, 2015 2:06 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
Kaet have you heard anything about this:

A Czech doctor that works in a hospital in Munich talks about the problems and incidents, which are covered by the media at all:

- immigrants have AIDS, syphilis and exctic diseases that we here do not know how to treat.

- immigrants are very disrespectful towards female staff (doctors, nurses, cleaning staff...)

- hospital staff are constantly attacked and harrassed so that the police with dogs guard hospitals. An 8 month immigrant child died in one of the best children's hospitals in Germany despite all the efforts to save it - the parents had dragged this child through Europe for 3 months. The doctor and 2 nurses were attacked after s/he died. The doctor is undergoing surgery, the nurses are in the intensive care. Patients with AIDS and syphilis throw their urin on nurses etc.

- major pharmacies are also under canine police units' protection. If immigrants are given a prescription for medicine and have to pay, especially when it is given to treat a child - they become aggressive saying that children receive free medical care.

and more in this video (German with English subtitles)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqHZ27Yt7A4
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Oct 24, 2015 2:13 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
chris27292729: You mean FYROM their international recognise name.-


As I grew up in former Yugoslavia it is Macedonia to me as this was the country's name when one of the Yugoslav republics. I do know about your quarrels over the name and yes you are right, their formal name now is FYROM. wave
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Oct 24, 2015 2:16 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
What do you expect???
From Third world country citizens,to behave and adopted
overnight,European behaviours????
Capricorn143: Kaet have you heard anything about this:

A Czech doctor that works in a hospital in Munich talks about the problems and incidents, which are covered by the media at all:

- immigrants have AIDS, syphilis and exctic diseases that we here do not know how to treat.

- immigrants are very disrespectful towards female staff (doctors, nurses, cleaning staff...)

- hospital staff are constantly attacked and harrassed so that the police with dogs guard hospitals. An 8 month immigrant child died in one of the best children's hospitals in Germany despite all the efforts to save it - the parents had dragged this child through Europe for 3 months. The doctor and 2 nurses were attacked after s/he died. The doctor is undergoing surgery, the nurses are in the intensive care. Patients with AIDS and syphilis throw their urin on nurses etc.

- major pharmacies are also under canine police units' protection. If immigrants are given a prescription for medicine and have to pay, especially when it is given to treat a child - they become aggressive saying that children receive free medical care.

and more in this video (German with English subtitles)

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Oct 24, 2015 3:37 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
I have been trying to get this video, finally managed. This was shown to the EU authorities to blame Croatia for not playing fair.

A thermal vision image of a mass of migrants being ushered by the Croatian policemen towards the border with Slovenia. This is when some ended up in that cold river:



If this is not scary, I don't know what is. Somebody mentioned ants?
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Oct 24, 2015 3:59 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
EQandIQ2online today!
EQandIQ2online today!EQandIQ2Budapest or Rarotonga CI, Central Hungary Hungary185 Posts
Capricorn143: Kaet have you heard anything about this:

A Czech doctor that works in a hospital in Munich talks about the problems and incidents, which are covered by the media at all:

- immigrants have AIDS, syphilis and exctic diseases that we here do not know how to treat.

- immigrants are very disrespectful towards female staff (doctors, nurses, cleaning staff...)

- hospital staff are constantly attacked and harrassed so that the police with dogs guard hospitals. An 8 month immigrant child died in one of the best children's hospitals in Germany despite all the efforts to save it - the parents had dragged this child through Europe for 3 months. The doctor and 2 nurses were attacked after s/he died. The doctor is undergoing surgery, the nurses are in the intensive care. Patients with AIDS and syphilis throw their urin on nurses etc.

- major pharmacies are also under canine police units' protection. If immigrants are given a prescription for medicine and have to pay, especially when it is given to treat a child - they become aggressive saying that children receive free medical care.

and more in this video (German with English subtitles)



Capri,
we had the same situation here. Even though only less than 20% of migrants had health check because they refused and not cooperated but there were many with hepatitis A and C, syphillis, also tuberculosis has been found and malaria along with other diseases what never seen before sepcially skin problems. And many-many with louse and mange...
And what is even more sad, many children were sick but the parents refused their treatments or didn't let them to take to hospital.

sad flower
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Oct 24, 2015 4:04 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
EQandIQ2: Capri,
we had the same situation here. Even though only less than 20% of migrants had health check because they refused and not cooperated but there were many with hepatitis A and C, syphillis, also tuberculosis has been found and malaria along with other diseases what never seen before sepcially skin problems. And many-many with louse and mange...
And what is even more sad, many children were sick but the parents refused their treatments or didn't let them to take to hospital.


Morning EQ teddybear

I find it so difficult to understand why the journalist want to cover such things up???? Incredible dunno
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Oct 24, 2015 4:15 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
EQandIQ2online today!
EQandIQ2online today!EQandIQ2Budapest or Rarotonga CI, Central Hungary Hungary185 Posts
UPDATE

Juncker - European Comission called an urgent meeting for today among the migrants route countries and prepared 16 points proposal.
According the news this proposal is only for "fire-fighting"...uh oh


Because in the meantime Merkel is talking about long term solution and want to have and set up a fix, mandatory quota/year for all the EU members!

doh
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Oct 24, 2015 5:01 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
EQandIQ2: UPDATE

Juncker - European Comission called an urgent meeting for today among the migrants route countries and prepared 16 points proposal.
According the news this proposal is only for "fire-fighting"...Because in the meantime Merkel is talking about long term solution and want to have and set up a fix, mandatory quota/year for all the EU members!


I knew nothing good can come from the Commission. I have said this so many times but again: Merkel is insane!!!! frustrated
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Oct 24, 2015 5:45 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
EQandIQ2online today!
EQandIQ2online today!EQandIQ2Budapest or Rarotonga CI, Central Hungary Hungary185 Posts
Hi Chris sad flower

I just have heard what is happening in South of Greece due to the flood and mud... blues

I have seen pictures of Idra crying

And I also have heard that in the past days arrived 50,000 new migrants to the islands?!
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Oct 24, 2015 6:08 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
EQandIQ2: Hi Chris

I just have heard what is happening in South of Greece due to the flood and mud...

I have seen pictures of Idra

And I also have heard that in the past days arrived 50,000 new migrants to the islands?!

You have read right.
A about the hurricane hiting Hydra island,
i got scared rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing today, and i moved to a higher
part in the island i live on.
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Likely am in the other side of the Aegean sea, so no migrants
in this island. wave wave wave
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Oct 24, 2015 6:15 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
They have decorated FYROM, with statuses of Alexander the Great,
claiming Macedonian descendants from the ancient Macedonian
Kingdom,bypassing the fact,that Alexanter was speaking Greek and no
Slavic language.-
wave wave wave
Capricorn143:
As I grew up in former Yugoslavia it is Macedonia to me as this was the country's name when one of the Yugoslav republics. I do know about your quarrels over the name and yes you are right, their formal name now is FYROM.
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Oct 24, 2015 10:04 AM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
chris27292729: They have decorated FYROM, with statuses of Alexander the Great,
claiming Macedonian descendants from the ancient Macedonian
Kingdom,bypassing the fact,that Alexanter was speaking Greek and no
Slavic language.-


I know about Alexander, not sure if the terrotory is the same at least?
I wonder why Greece didn't protest when we were in Yugoslavia?
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Oct 24, 2015 1:03 PM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Capricorn143: I know about Alexander, not sure if the terrotory is the same at least?
I wonder why Greece didn't protest when we were in Yugoslavia?

Google. ""Tito's plan for a Macedonian nation"".
Greece protested to Tito,naming this part of Yugoslavia "Macedonia".
Fot those reasons,as Tito's back in 48, Greece wouldn't allowed them, to join NATO and EU , with their constitutional name of Macedonia.
Only with a geographic indicative, such "Upper or North Macedonia".
Geographically present day Macedonia consists of.
52% the Southern part in Greece.
15% the North East part in Bulgaria
33% the North West part in FYROM.
And finally the FYROM Macedonians they aren't descendant from the
the ancient Macedonians,as they settle in this region 800 years,
5th century AC,long after the collapsed of the Great Macedonian Dynasty.-
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Oct 24, 2015 1:16 PM CST GERMANY,,, WHERE ARE WE NOW ?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Capricorn143: I know about Alexander, not sure if the terrotory is the same at least?
I wonder why Greece didn't protest when we were in Yugoslavia?

Obviously Greece doesn't want a repetition,like the one,
happened in Trieste.
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