Borders are tightened while Merkel calls for emergency summit (202)
lindsyjones: Headline on the WSJ today is a picture depicting so many migrants stopped at the border in Hungary with uniformed officers guarding the post.
Meantime on the editorial on page A8 is another headline and that is the training of this new workers for the jobs that are assigned.
Note: In the previous post it was the core of the discussion why Germany turned 180 degrees in opening its door to these migrants. It is beyond any doubt, that manpower is indeed the major reason why they are welcomed with more than an open arms.
MPO is that there is a blunder committed on this policy and Europe is in limbo on how to deal with it.
Meantime on the editorial on page A8 is another headline and that is the training of this new workers for the jobs that are assigned.
Note: In the previous post it was the core of the discussion why Germany turned 180 degrees in opening its door to these migrants. It is beyond any doubt, that manpower is indeed the major reason why they are welcomed with more than an open arms.
MPO is that there is a blunder committed on this policy and Europe is in limbo on how to deal with it.
The title of the story: "Germany's next test: Jobs for Migrants."
I hope that there is no displacement of any labor force from among the natives. Although it was posted that of course, Germany does need these labor to fill in their needs.
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Hungarian police repel migrants at Serbian border...
HORGOS, Serbia (AP) — Hungarian police used tear gas and water cannons on hundreds of migrants who broke through a razor wire fence on the border with Serbia on Wednesday, while migrants prevented from moving through Hungary increasingly began taking a longer route into Western Europe through Croatia.
HORGOS, Serbia (AP) — Hungarian police used tear gas and water cannons on hundreds of migrants who broke through a razor wire fence on the border with Serbia on Wednesday, while migrants prevented from moving through Hungary increasingly began taking a longer route into Western Europe through Croatia.
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The events leading up to to the call for a summit.
Ref Fotune .com
Part of Germany’s rationale for allowing hundreds of thousands of migrants through the doors lies in demographics. Germany has one of the world’s most rapidly aging and shrinking populations. With one of the world’s lowest birthrates, the country relies on immigration to plug a growing workforce hole. According to one expert quoted in Deutsche Welle last year, the German economy needs to attract 1.5 million skilled migrants to stabilize the state pension system as more Germans retire.
An influx of young migrants could improve the country’s dependency ratio, a measure of those over 65 compared to those of general working age between 15 and 64. According to current official estimates, every third German could be over 65 by 2060, leaving two workers to support each retiree.
Still, the jury is still hung on whether immigrants overall serve as drains or boosts to economies. According to one 2011 working paper from Harvard Business School, immigrants in Northern Europe have traditionally started off as a drain on state resources, though some of their wages tend to increase over time, allowing them to contribute back to the state.
Ultimately, whether or not this new wave of migrants helps or hinders Germany’s economy depends heavily on the skillsets they bring. Many of Germany’s current working foreigners — the ones that created the surplus mentioned above — are high-skilled workers from other European countries like Greece. In contrast, the migrants flooding into Germany right now may not be as well-trained.
Though the research on the subject is thin, one estimate pegs more than half of refugees lack professional training. That means German policymakers will have to do a very good job of taking unskilled workers and incorporating them into the German labor force in a way that makes sense for long-term growth, whether that’s by incentivizing them to take low-skilled jobs or training them to do higher-level work.
Ref Fotune .com
Part of Germany’s rationale for allowing hundreds of thousands of migrants through the doors lies in demographics. Germany has one of the world’s most rapidly aging and shrinking populations. With one of the world’s lowest birthrates, the country relies on immigration to plug a growing workforce hole. According to one expert quoted in Deutsche Welle last year, the German economy needs to attract 1.5 million skilled migrants to stabilize the state pension system as more Germans retire.
An influx of young migrants could improve the country’s dependency ratio, a measure of those over 65 compared to those of general working age between 15 and 64. According to current official estimates, every third German could be over 65 by 2060, leaving two workers to support each retiree.
Still, the jury is still hung on whether immigrants overall serve as drains or boosts to economies. According to one 2011 working paper from Harvard Business School, immigrants in Northern Europe have traditionally started off as a drain on state resources, though some of their wages tend to increase over time, allowing them to contribute back to the state.
Ultimately, whether or not this new wave of migrants helps or hinders Germany’s economy depends heavily on the skillsets they bring. Many of Germany’s current working foreigners — the ones that created the surplus mentioned above — are high-skilled workers from other European countries like Greece. In contrast, the migrants flooding into Germany right now may not be as well-trained.
Though the research on the subject is thin, one estimate pegs more than half of refugees lack professional training. That means German policymakers will have to do a very good job of taking unskilled workers and incorporating them into the German labor force in a way that makes sense for long-term growth, whether that’s by incentivizing them to take low-skilled jobs or training them to do higher-level work.
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lindsyjones: The title of the story: "Germany's next test: Jobs for Migrants."
I hope that there is no displacement of any labor force from among the natives. Although it was posted that of course, Germany does need these labor to fill in their needs.
I hope that there is no displacement of any labor force from among the natives. Although it was posted that of course, Germany does need these labor to fill in their needs.
And most of the posters in others threads,about Germany's
humanitarian gestures,towards refugees,were very quick to approve
and applaud 
.They will accept the numbers they need. The rest will be pushed
in the other EU countries.
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tomcatwarne: The events leading up to to the call for a summit.
Ref Fotune .com
Part of Germany’s rationale for allowing hundreds of thousands of migrants through the doors lies in demographics. Germany has one of the world’s most rapidly aging and shrinking populations. With one of the world’s lowest birthrates, the country relies on immigration to plug a growing workforce hole. According to one expert quoted in Deutsche Welle last year, the German economy needs to attract 1.5 million skilled migrants to stabilize the state pension system as more Germans retire.
An influx of young migrants could improve the country’s dependency ratio, a measure of those over 65 compared to those of general working age between 15 and 64. According to current official estimates, every third German could be over 65 by 2060, leaving two workers to support each retiree.
Still, the jury is still hung on whether immigrants overall serve as drains or boosts to economies. According to one 2011 working paper from Harvard Business School, immigrants in Northern Europe have traditionally started off as a drain on state resources, though some of their wages tend to increase over time, allowing them to contribute back to the state.
Ultimately, whether or not this new wave of migrants helps or hinders Germany’s economy depends heavily on the skillsets they bring. Many of Germany’s current working foreigners — the ones that created the surplus mentioned above — are high-skilled workers from other European countries like Greece. In contrast, the migrants flooding into Germany right now may not be as well-trained.
Though the research on the subject is thin, one estimate pegs more than half of refugees lack professional training. That means German policymakers will have to do a very good job of taking unskilled workers and incorporating them into the German labor force in a way that makes sense for long-term growth, whether that’s by incentivizing them to take low-skilled jobs or training them to do higher-level work.
Ref Fotune .com
Part of Germany’s rationale for allowing hundreds of thousands of migrants through the doors lies in demographics. Germany has one of the world’s most rapidly aging and shrinking populations. With one of the world’s lowest birthrates, the country relies on immigration to plug a growing workforce hole. According to one expert quoted in Deutsche Welle last year, the German economy needs to attract 1.5 million skilled migrants to stabilize the state pension system as more Germans retire.
An influx of young migrants could improve the country’s dependency ratio, a measure of those over 65 compared to those of general working age between 15 and 64. According to current official estimates, every third German could be over 65 by 2060, leaving two workers to support each retiree.
Still, the jury is still hung on whether immigrants overall serve as drains or boosts to economies. According to one 2011 working paper from Harvard Business School, immigrants in Northern Europe have traditionally started off as a drain on state resources, though some of their wages tend to increase over time, allowing them to contribute back to the state.
Ultimately, whether or not this new wave of migrants helps or hinders Germany’s economy depends heavily on the skillsets they bring. Many of Germany’s current working foreigners — the ones that created the surplus mentioned above — are high-skilled workers from other European countries like Greece. In contrast, the migrants flooding into Germany right now may not be as well-trained.
Though the research on the subject is thin, one estimate pegs more than half of refugees lack professional training. That means German policymakers will have to do a very good job of taking unskilled workers and incorporating them into the German labor force in a way that makes sense for long-term growth, whether that’s by incentivizing them to take low-skilled jobs or training them to do higher-level work.
That is precisely what the paper said Tom.
Well from an economic point of view, the German work force right now is taking advantage of this opportunity. It works both ways and that is exactly what is happening right now. The problem is, there are many small countries in Europe that don't welcome this invasion. It would be very interesting to know what the core of the summit would be.
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purr4mance: Hungarian police repel migrants at Serbian border...
HORGOS, Serbia (AP) — Hungarian police used tear gas and water cannons on hundreds of migrants who broke through a razor wire fence on the border with Serbia on Wednesday, while migrants prevented from moving through Hungary increasingly began taking a longer route into Western Europe through Croatia.
HORGOS, Serbia (AP) — Hungarian police used tear gas and water cannons on hundreds of migrants who broke through a razor wire fence on the border with Serbia on Wednesday, while migrants prevented from moving through Hungary increasingly began taking a longer route into Western Europe through Croatia.
This is very sad because, it doesn't seem a very easy challenge for the border patrol to handle this.
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chris27292729: And most of the posters in others threads,about Germany's
humanitarian gestures,towards refugees,were very quick to approve and applaud .
They will accept the numbers they need. The rest will be pushed
in the other EU countries.
humanitarian gestures,towards refugees,were very quick to approve and applaud .
They will accept the numbers they need. The rest will be pushed
in the other EU countries.
The acute problem right now Chris is that it seems only Germany is benefiting from this imbroglio it has put Europe into. Definitely it will spur unrest and until they can figure out what is the best solution it is an uphill battle that needs to be corrected.
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Getting messy at the border now.
I read that the migrants might change their route and cross Croatia and Slovenia or else try and go through Romania.
I read that the migrants might change their route and cross Croatia and Slovenia or else try and go through Romania.
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lindsyjones: That is precisely what the paper said Tom.
Well from an economic point of view, the German work force right now is taking advantage of this opportunity. It works both ways and that is exactly what is happening right now. The problem is, there are many small countries in Europe that don't welcome this invasion. It would be very interesting to know what the core of the summit would be.
Well from an economic point of view, the German work force right now is taking advantage of this opportunity. It works both ways and that is exactly what is happening right now. The problem is, there are many small countries in Europe that don't welcome this invasion. It would be very interesting to know what the core of the summit would be.
They probably picked it up from the same agency as fortune com. I too await the ouycome of the summit with trepidation. I don't see a solution overall.
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GalwayGuy35: Getting messy at the border now.
I read that the migrants might change their route and cross Croatia and Slovenia or else try and go through Romania.
I read that the migrants might change their route and cross Croatia and Slovenia or else try and go through Romania.
Galway, whether the world like it or not, I believe Germany flashed a beacon of hope for these people and voila, that is the challenge that need to be fixed now. How? That is yet to be found out.
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tomcatwarne: They probably picked it up from the same agency as fortune com. I too await the ouycome of the summit with trepidation. I don't see a solution overall.
It is very interesting as we are here discussing all the possibilities. How Merkel will propose for the solution is one thing.
Almost like a daily anticipation of the world to see what is next.
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lindsyjones: Galway, whether the world like it or not, I believe Germany flashed a beacon of hope for these people and voila, that is the challenge that need to be fixed now. How? That is yet to be found out.
It is incredible how these people behave, it is all: we are entitled to...we demand...you must let us through...
Unbelieveable!
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Capricorn143: It is incredible how these people behave, it is all: we are entitled to...we demand...you must let us through...
Unbelieveable!
Unbelieveable!
I am very positive Capri, Merkel will have to face not only the politicians but the whole of the world.
I am thinking had she not make it look like a gesture of sympathy, as the papers originally labeled it, it would have been a different matter. It does show a big deception on her part to self serve their need at the expense of the whole Union.
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tomcatwarne: They probably picked it up from the same agency as fortune com. I too await the ouycome of the summit with trepidation. I don't see a solution overall.
It is very obvious that the deception that Merkel played on the whole of the world, showing a gesture of sympathy, has poisoned her reputation and leadership.
At least she could have come upfront on her motivation and then specifically stringed them only to his land.
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lindsyjones: I am very positive Capri, Merkel will have to face not only the politicians but the whole of the world.
I am thinking had she not make it look like a gesture of sympathy, as the papers originally labeled it, it would have been a different matter. It does show a big deception on her part to self serve their need at the expense of the whole Union.
I am thinking had she not make it look like a gesture of sympathy, as the papers originally labeled it, it would have been a different matter. It does show a big deception on her part to self serve their need at the expense of the whole Union.
y SIMON KENT14 Sep 20151,638
German Chancellor Angela Merkel seems oblivious to the fact that what you reward you get more of. Witness the tens of thousands of welfare seekers cloaked as genuine migrants flooding Europe and now threatening the collapse of the borderless EU she has always proudly trumpeted.
They are coming because Merkel said they should. Germany would welcome them all – and then some – in an act of charity she barely thought through and hardly understood the consequences of.
Remember back in August the chancellor declared all Syrian asylum-seekers welcome to remain in Germany, no matter which EU country they had first set foot on. In doing so Germany set itself up to accept an extraordinary 800,000 migrants before the end of the year. It also became the first EU country to suspend the 1990 Dublin protocol which forces refugees to seek asylum in the first European country they set foot on.
So what had been a sustained flow became a flood. The human tide bound for Germany increased so quickly that Germany re-imposed border controls on Sunday after Europe’s most powerful nation acknowledged it could scarcely cope with thousands of asylum seekers arriving every day.
Those few extra thousands are nothing compared to the hundreds of thousands on their way to take advantage of Merkel’s promise to take one and all. How on earth is Germany going to cope with what lies ahead, let alone the country’s smaller and less economically stable neighbours also staggering under the sheer weight of human traffic.
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tomcatwarne: The events leading up to to the call for a summit.
Ref Fotune .com
Part of Germany’s rationale for allowing hundreds of thousands of migrants through the doors lies in demographics. Germany has one of the world’s most rapidly aging and shrinking populations. With one of the world’s lowest birthrates, the country relies on immigration to plug a growing workforce hole. According to one expert quoted in Deutsche Welle last year, the German economy needs to attract 1.5 million skilled migrants to stabilize the state pension system as more Germans retire.
An influx of young migrants could improve the country’s dependency ratio, a measure of those over 65 compared to those of general working age between 15 and 64. According to current official estimates, every third German could be over 65 by 2060, leaving two workers to support each retiree.
Still, the jury is still hung on whether immigrants overall serve as drains or boosts to economies. According to one 2011 working paper from Harvard Business School, immigrants in Northern Europe have traditionally started off as a drain on state resources, though some of their wages tend to increase over time, allowing them to contribute back to the state.
Ultimately, whether or not this new wave of migrants helps or hinders Germany’s economy depends heavily on the skillsets they bring. Many of Germany’s current working foreigners — the ones that created the surplus mentioned above — are high-skilled workers from other European countries like Greece. In contrast, the migrants flooding into Germany right now may not be as well-trained.
Though the research on the subject is thin, one estimate pegs more than half of refugees lack professional training. That means German policymakers will have to do a very good job of taking unskilled workers and incorporating them into the German labor force in a way that makes sense for long-term growth, whether that’s by incentivizing them to take low-skilled jobs or training them to do higher-level work.
Ref Fotune .com
Part of Germany’s rationale for allowing hundreds of thousands of migrants through the doors lies in demographics. Germany has one of the world’s most rapidly aging and shrinking populations. With one of the world’s lowest birthrates, the country relies on immigration to plug a growing workforce hole. According to one expert quoted in Deutsche Welle last year, the German economy needs to attract 1.5 million skilled migrants to stabilize the state pension system as more Germans retire.
An influx of young migrants could improve the country’s dependency ratio, a measure of those over 65 compared to those of general working age between 15 and 64. According to current official estimates, every third German could be over 65 by 2060, leaving two workers to support each retiree.
Still, the jury is still hung on whether immigrants overall serve as drains or boosts to economies. According to one 2011 working paper from Harvard Business School, immigrants in Northern Europe have traditionally started off as a drain on state resources, though some of their wages tend to increase over time, allowing them to contribute back to the state.
Ultimately, whether or not this new wave of migrants helps or hinders Germany’s economy depends heavily on the skillsets they bring. Many of Germany’s current working foreigners — the ones that created the surplus mentioned above — are high-skilled workers from other European countries like Greece. In contrast, the migrants flooding into Germany right now may not be as well-trained.
Though the research on the subject is thin, one estimate pegs more than half of refugees lack professional training. That means German policymakers will have to do a very good job of taking unskilled workers and incorporating them into the German labor force in a way that makes sense for long-term growth, whether that’s by incentivizing them to take low-skilled jobs or training them to do higher-level work.
The luddites are still alive and well. One third of all jobs in the first world will be redundant in the next 10-20 years with a tiny fraction of extremely highly-skilled jobs coming in to replace them. Are we stupid enough to believe that there's any shortage of manpower in real terms?
German gaps in the labour market are being caused by imbalances elsewhere - such as German manufacturing artificially boosted by the low value of the Euro. If there was no Euro you'd have a million German workers freed up right there.
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Obstinance_Works: The luddites are still alive and well. One third of all jobs in the first world will be redundant in the next 10-20 years with a tiny fraction of extremely highly-skilled jobs coming in to replace them. Are we stupid enough to believe that there's any shortage of manpower in real terms?
German gaps in the labour market are being caused by imbalances elsewhere - such as German manufacturing artificially boosted by the low value of the Euro. If there was no Euro you'd have a million German workers freed up right there.
German gaps in the labour market are being caused by imbalances elsewhere - such as German manufacturing artificially boosted by the low value of the Euro. If there was no Euro you'd have a million German workers freed up right there.
No you are not stupid enough to think of it, let alone accept for the need.
and that is the very reason why she deceived the whole world but showing a gesture of kindness and sympathy, only to self serve her own agenda, at the expense of every citizens in Europe.
She is a manipulator and full of deceit if you ask me.
On the original post, one lady from Ireland was so upset because of unthinkable motivation other than kindness and it got proven wrong..
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chris27292729: And most of the posters in others threads,about Germany's
humanitarian gestures,towards refugees,were very quick to approve and applaud .
They will accept the numbers they need. The rest will be pushed
in the other EU countries.
humanitarian gestures,towards refugees,were very quick to approve and applaud .
They will accept the numbers they need. The rest will be pushed
in the other EU countries.
This is a very challenging situation to all of the union now Chris and it is more pervasive every moment.
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lindsyjones: This is a very challenging situation to all of the union now Chris and it is more pervasive every moment.
""" Very challenging situation""" to all of the ""EU".???
my foot!!!! Germany is the EU, all the other countries are subordinates.
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Meantime on the editorial on page A8 is another headline and that is the training of this new workers for the jobs that are assigned.
Note: In the previous post it was the core of the discussion why Germany turned 180 degrees in opening its door to these migrants. It is beyond any doubt, that manpower is indeed the major reason why they are welcomed with more than an open arms.
MPO is that there is a blunder committed on this policy and Europe is in limbo on how to deal with it.