Vegetarian & Vegan (77)
online today!online today!truheart1941brentwood, Essex, England UK83 Threads 1 Polls 25,171 PostsBabettefr: ,, and they took you by the head and made them turn or pivot the way they want,, and shout at you to be attaintive, because films are so expensive,,, owww,, what an era!!
yes...you dont remember me ....do you....????you sat in front of me...in the same class room......
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truheart1941: OH....10 year ago.....OH........do you worry a lot.....?????????????????????????????????.
Do you worry? You look at least 101 yrs old.
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Babettefr: equiya,,
I don't have the intention of contradicting your being a vegetarian, but i'm somewhat in the way and means how these veggies/fruits are being produced. If we have to be strict in the logic of full pledged vegetarian then, it's should be from the start up to the ultimate , from production to consumption,, so the organic products comes in? they are expensive as i know,,isn't it?
I don't have the intention of contradicting your being a vegetarian, but i'm somewhat in the way and means how these veggies/fruits are being produced. If we have to be strict in the logic of full pledged vegetarian then, it's should be from the start up to the ultimate , from production to consumption,, so the organic products comes in? they are expensive as i know,,isn't it?
you are making some false assumptions here
we don't all eat cereal, i don't.
I am a vegan not a vegetarian, that means I only eat plant based foods, no eggs, no dairy and I don't buy organic foods
if i buy a bag of 10 apples for 5 dollars and i eat 2 apples for breakfast that's about a dollar!
production of what? i don't eat anything that's processed
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truheart1941: yes...you dont remember me ....do you....????you sat in front of me...in the same class room......
yes, sure,,, i was sitting right back after you, the same row,,
i could even still recall the aroma coming from your direction,,
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Ccincy: Do you worry? You look at least 101 yrs old.
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equiya: you are making some false assumptions here
we don't all eat cereal, i don't.
I am a vegan not a vegetarian, that means I only eat plant based foods, no eggs, no dairy and I don't buy organic foods
if i buy a bag of 10 apples for 5 dollars and i eat 2 apples for breakfast that's about a dollar!
production of what? i don't eat anything that's processed
we don't all eat cereal, i don't.
I am a vegan not a vegetarian, that means I only eat plant based foods, no eggs, no dairy and I don't buy organic foods
if i buy a bag of 10 apples for 5 dollars and i eat 2 apples for breakfast that's about a dollar!
production of what? i don't eat anything that's processed
my apology,, it is just to present an argument, not to induce/obliged anybody on whatsoever, however assumptions could be right or wrong,,
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truheart1941: ....... LUV...YOU.......
Love is only an emotion.
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Babettefr: jac,, i'm curious if those meats produced by i don't know what means from the other part of the EU doesn't arrived to UK markets.
Porc meats from Germany, Polland, Belgium, etc, and why not rabbits from China? they are very abordable in price,, but the quality follows of course, maybe UK limits it's importation.
How could i be gastronimically deprived if i eat everything,, from frog legs down to the snails/escargot,,
Porc meats from Germany, Polland, Belgium, etc, and why not rabbits from China? they are very abordable in price,, but the quality follows of course, maybe UK limits it's importation.
How could i be gastronimically deprived if i eat everything,, from frog legs down to the snails/escargot,,
Feeding plant materials to animals and then eating the animals is less energy efficient and ecologically sound than eating plant materials.
There's something really not nice about a system which caters for the privileged few, when alternative use of resources could feed everyone in the world. It's one of the many reasons why some people eat vegetarian, or vegan foods.
The UK does have restrictions on meat imports since we found some cheap farming practises can lead to health and safety disasters. Also, add transport and import costs and imports may no longer be a cheap option.
As for your gastronomic deprivation, I reckon I could easily feed you for a year without giving you the same delectable vegetarian dish twice. There are 196 countries in the world, so I'd only need one, or two recipes from each culture to do that.
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jac_the_gripper: Feeding plant materials to animals and then eating the animals is less energy efficient and ecologically sound than eating plant materials.
There's something really not nice about a system which caters for the privileged few, when alternative use of resources could feed everyone in the world. It's one of the many reasons why some people eat vegetarian, or vegan foods.
The UK does have restrictions on meat imports since we found some cheap farming practises can lead to health and safety disasters. Also, add transport and import costs and imports may no longer be a cheap option.
As for your gastronomic deprivation, I reckon I could easily feed you for a year without giving you the same delectable vegetarian dish twice. There are 196 countries in the world, so I'd only need one, or two recipes from each culture to do that.
There's something really not nice about a system which caters for the privileged few, when alternative use of resources could feed everyone in the world. It's one of the many reasons why some people eat vegetarian, or vegan foods.
The UK does have restrictions on meat imports since we found some cheap farming practises can lead to health and safety disasters. Also, add transport and import costs and imports may no longer be a cheap option.
As for your gastronomic deprivation, I reckon I could easily feed you for a year without giving you the same delectable vegetarian dish twice. There are 196 countries in the world, so I'd only need one, or two recipes from each culture to do that.
right jac,,
But there's this thing we call diversity, not every one on this planet are consuming the same thing, and it is necessary to balance humanity's production to consumption, excessive could lead to waste and forced consumption as what we can observe now. We just couldn't stick to a limited or see unique system to favorize the concept of energetic effeciency.
As for those recipes from all over, i'm not so sure if i could stomach them, well, i can give it a try, but no guarantee,, however i prefer to eat what i like, and that i have the pleasure in eating them while i can, maybe there comes a time when we could no longer have any choice, take it leave it, you know,,? radiation on the earth's surface is not impossible to think to,, so i prefer to grab that chance to eat what i'm craving, though simple ones,,
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jac_the_gripper: Feeding plant materials to animals and then eating the animals is less energy efficient and ecologically sound than eating plant materials.
There's something really not nice about a system which caters for the privileged few, when alternative use of resources could feed everyone in the world. It's one of the many reasons why some people eat vegetarian, or vegan foods.
The UK does have restrictions on meat imports since we found some cheap farming practises can lead to health and safety disasters. Also, add transport and import costs and imports may no longer be a cheap option.
As for your gastronomic deprivation, I reckon I could easily feed you for a year without giving you the same delectable vegetarian dish twice. There are 196 countries in the world, so I'd only need one, or two recipes from each culture to do that.
There's something really not nice about a system which caters for the privileged few, when alternative use of resources could feed everyone in the world. It's one of the many reasons why some people eat vegetarian, or vegan foods.
The UK does have restrictions on meat imports since we found some cheap farming practises can lead to health and safety disasters. Also, add transport and import costs and imports may no longer be a cheap option.
As for your gastronomic deprivation, I reckon I could easily feed you for a year without giving you the same delectable vegetarian dish twice. There are 196 countries in the world, so I'd only need one, or two recipes from each culture to do that.
Agreed!
A total of 925 million people do not have enough to eat — more than the populations of the U.S., Canada, and the European Union combined. This year, 2.6 million children will die of malnutrition.
It takes up to 13 pounds of grain to produce just 1 pound of meat. If people were to eat the grain itself, an entire village would be fed instead of only one family.
Here is a link to the full article:
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chris27292729: Honey???
Considering bees visit flowers to make honey,should be regarded,
indirectly a veg, product.-
Mainly veg,not vegan as yet.
Considering bees visit flowers to make honey,should be regarded,
indirectly a veg, product.-
Mainly veg,not vegan as yet.
Although bees are technically insects, according to Vegans, honey is considered an animal byproduct and is not consumed by Vegans.
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If I get too hungry, I'm likely to bite a cow.
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jac_the_gripper: I guess that would depend upon the purpose of avoiding meat.
Not everyone who doesn't eat meat has the same reasons for not doing so.
I kinda think people can make their own choices and I don't recall ever finding any rule books.
Not everyone who doesn't eat meat has the same reasons for not doing so.
I kinda think people can make their own choices and I don't recall ever finding any rule books.
I can only speak for myself, my reasons are for ethical and economic reasons. I love and respect animals and do not wish to consume them. Economically, being Vegetarian or Vegan makes sense because it takes up to 13 pounds of grain to produce just 1 pound of meat. If people were to eat the grain itself, an entire village would be fed instead of only one family.
I am not putting down or condemning meat eaters. They have a right to eat what they want just as I do. Both my children are meat eaters and I never pressured them to convert.
jac_the_gripper: Why would it be hypocritical if someone who chooses a vegetarian diet most of the time chooses to eat meat from time to time, piddled, or not?
Maybe it wouldn’t be for some, I can only speak for myself that it would be.
jac_the_gripper: Some people are uncomfortable with the idea of exploiting any creature for it's produce. That may include using honey, or wool, for example.
I suppose if you followed that line of thought through, having a pet to fulfil emotional needs might be considered exploitative.
I suppose if you followed that line of thought through, having a pet to fulfil emotional needs might be considered exploitative.
I don’t consider domesticated animals, not those gathered from the wild, to be exploited. It is a mutually beneficially arrangement as long as the animal is treated with kindness and respect.
Babettefr: willow ,,,
I admire your way of life,, it's like a line straightly drawn.
Though the word vegetarian seems not new to me, but i'm wondering though that the choice of the items you consume is limited, thus you will be obliged to consume almost the same thing everytime, i mean lesser variations, is that so? ,, and the word monotony doesn't occur? ,, Logically, when products are produced in a lesser quantity the tag price follows, (take for example olive oils) and maybe vegetarian is an expensive way of living?,,it's almost a phylosophy,,
I admire your way of life,, it's like a line straightly drawn.
Though the word vegetarian seems not new to me, but i'm wondering though that the choice of the items you consume is limited, thus you will be obliged to consume almost the same thing everytime, i mean lesser variations, is that so? ,, and the word monotony doesn't occur? ,, Logically, when products are produced in a lesser quantity the tag price follows, (take for example olive oils) and maybe vegetarian is an expensive way of living?,,it's almost a phylosophy,,
It’s no less monotonous than eating meat. How many ways can one cook a steak? I eat EVERYTHING but meat. With all the different recipes, spices and ways to prepare produce, it doesn’t get monotonous.
It can get very expensive if you follow strict adherence to only buy organic, locally grown produce, which is more economically responsible and biologically sustainable. I, unfortunately, cannot afford, at this time, to do so.
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Babettefr: equiya,,
I don't have the intention of contradicting your being a vegetarian, but i'm somewhat in the way and means how these veggies/fruits are being produced. If we have to be strict in the logic of full pledged vegetarian then, it's should be from the start up to the ultimate , from production to consumption,, so the organic products comes in? they are expensive as i know,,isn't it?
I don't have the intention of contradicting your being a vegetarian, but i'm somewhat in the way and means how these veggies/fruits are being produced. If we have to be strict in the logic of full pledged vegetarian then, it's should be from the start up to the ultimate , from production to consumption,, so the organic products comes in? they are expensive as i know,,isn't it?
Bab,I presume you mean, by production,all the herbicides and pesticides used on fruit and veg. And indeed the production of the chemicals themselves?
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mollybaby: Bab,I presume you mean, by production,all the herbicides and pesticides used on fruit and veg. And indeed the production of the chemicals themselves?
molly,,,, yes,, that's why i said ealier it's rather a spirituality/phylosophy,,but being a healthy concept i think not,, though i respect those vegans & vegetarians, it's still a free world as is see, but what i was trying to brought out is what are those concrete benefits we derive from being one? ,,,
Part of my family, on the mother's side are vegetarians, they raise what they consume for veggies, yet my grandma was very sick in her last days due to lack of a good nutrition, a good diet for the specific needs of one's metabolism. She developed a thyroid goiter due to iodine deffeciency, they were not the healthiest people as i witnessed, i even considered them as harmful to the environment in the long run.
Yes, they don't eat meat, but i've seen how they derived a similar taste of a "meat stuff" from kilos & kilos of flour, not to mention the quantity of water used in the process, washing the dough until what's left is that sticky substance they called "meat substitute" i've tasted them, they're so good, but it was horribly wasteful.
And if this concept could attract lots of convinced individuals, then logically,, production should follow to meet the demands, that could lead to massive production, using machines/chemicals and not human hands, in a small scale, then it ends up expensive.
What i presented here is for the sake of opinion sharing/discussion and don't have the intention of offending.
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They have a telepathic communication.
Ccincy: No apology necessary cause tru just likes to pick on me.
Serena 123 needs to find better ways to keep him busier.
Serena 123 needs to find better ways to keep him busier.
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professes to love Animals,then eat and so deprive them of their Food!
If you need to go Vegan,make sure you inform yourself of the Foods that are deadly Poison if consumed raw!
If you need to go Vegan,make sure you inform yourself of the Foods that are deadly Poison if consumed raw!
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