Wear your poppy with pride? (74)
stanley8m: in Flanders Fields
John McCrae
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
John McCrae
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
snowlynx: Speaking of Irish women where would they go for their abortions seeing as we won't grow up and deal with the problem here, once again Britain dealing with the overflow of our problems.
Good at doing what they do well, slaughter innocents
Thanks
snowlynx: You're being selective as usual. Why don't you mention the soldiers who were murdered by these cowards shooting at them from long distances, or planting bombs by the side of the road then running away as fast as they can so that they were miles away when the bombs went off?
Cowards who fought a cowardly war. At least the men of 1916 stood toe to toe with the brits and fought like men in an honourable way.
Cowards who fought a cowardly war. At least the men of 1916 stood toe to toe with the brits and fought like men in an honourable way.
Your selective about not even mentioning the sacrifice
Of the hunger strikers, how desperate were nationalists
As a people to do that? Was that cowardly??
If you supported their cause snd weren't a west Brit you
Wouldn't have the courage to plant a bomb because you
Wouldn't have the courage to risk a long term stretch!
It was courageous..
I asked you what way they were meant to fight such a powerful
Army ? Republicans of the more recent day used tactics that let
Them fight another day.. Sensible I'd say and they used the great
Man Michael Collins tactics, you never mentioned him old chap
Was he a terrorist??
He was an inspirational to revolutionaries world wide
An inspiration to the modern IRA, more power to their
Tactics when their people were being so harshly treated
By your people
They didn't bomb enough!
snowlynx: You are mixing up the terrorists with the legitimate army of the state here.
By the way the term 'west brit' is beloved of skangers. Are you a skanger jt? you certainly look like one!
By the way the term 'west brit' is beloved of skangers. Are you a skanger jt? you certainly look like one!
I apologise for the second sentence here, it was a stupid thing to say.
snowlynx: You are mixing up the terrorists with the legitimate army of the state here.
By the way the term 'west brit' is beloved of skangers. Are you a skanger jt? you certainly look like one!
By the way the term 'west brit' is beloved of skangers. Are you a skanger jt? you certainly look like one!
What do you look like you weak germ, haven't
Even the courage to show yourself! Devious joker
If you equate working class with bring a skanger
Then I'm a scanger in your arrogant west Brit eyes
I'm proud of myself and where I'm from, you don't
Know where your from sasanach
stanley8m: in Flanders Fields
John McCrae
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
....I'm sure we would all agree that this is a most moving and poignant poem....that being said....at the beginning of WW1 a large amount of young Irish men (mostly, by the way, aged between 17 and 19 decided to fight with Britain.)....most of those young men were running from abject poverty.....the Irish soldiers were treated like dirt by their Captains etc in the British Army......that is a fact....Ireland, at the time, were in the middle of trying to get away from being ruled and subservient to Britain.......by the end of the War the number of recruits from Ireland had dropped dramatically...I'm not sure how many, but I think it was around 30,000 Irish soldiers that were killed in the War...they had been fed a story that Ireland might be invaded by the Germans.....as far as I am concerned it would go totally against the grain in me to see anybody in Ireland wearing a poppy to commemorate WW1....perhaps we should wear some other flower to commemorate our own freedom.....albeit not total......John McCrae
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
snowlynx: I apologise for the second sentence here, it was a stupid thing to say.
Apology accepted
jt972: Your selective about not even mentioning the sacrifice
Of the hunger strikers, how desperate were nationalists
As a people to do that? Was that cowardly??
If you supported their cause snd weren't a west Brit you
Wouldn't have the courage to plant a bomb because you
Wouldn't have the courage to risk a long term stretch!
It was courageous..
I asked you what way they were meant to fight such a powerful
Army ? Republicans of the more recent day used tactics that let
Them fight another day.. Sensible I'd say and they used the great
Man Michael Collins tactics, you never mentioned him old chap
Was he a terrorist??
He was an inspirational to revolutionaries world wide
An inspiration to the modern IRA, more power to their
Tactics when their people were being so harshly treated
By your people
They didn't bomb enough!
Of the hunger strikers, how desperate were nationalists
As a people to do that? Was that cowardly??
If you supported their cause snd weren't a west Brit you
Wouldn't have the courage to plant a bomb because you
Wouldn't have the courage to risk a long term stretch!
It was courageous..
I asked you what way they were meant to fight such a powerful
Army ? Republicans of the more recent day used tactics that let
Them fight another day.. Sensible I'd say and they used the great
Man Michael Collins tactics, you never mentioned him old chap
Was he a terrorist??
He was an inspirational to revolutionaries world wide
An inspiration to the modern IRA, more power to their
Tactics when their people were being so harshly treated
By your people
They didn't bomb enough!
The hunger strikers chose their own destiny, their victims had no such choice.
I don't know what your definition of courage is but planting a bomb takes a lot less of it than to be the soldier walking the road knowing said bomb could go off any time and there's nothing you can do about it.
What are you on about 'your people'????? My people are the Irish people, just because I don't support terrorism doesn't make me less Irish, and I'm not getting into Michael Collins for christ's sake!
correction "by the End of the War"....
OgGoDeo: ....I'm sure we would all agree that this is a most moving and poignant poem....that being said....at the beginning of WW1 a large amount of young Irish men (mostly, by the way, aged between 17 and 19 decided to fight with Britain.)....most of those young men were running from abject poverty.....the Irish soldiers were treated like dirt by their Captains etc in the British Army......that is a fact....Ireland, at the time, were in the middle of trying to get away from being ruled and subservient to Britain.......by the end of the War the number of recruits from Ireland had dropped dramatically...I'm not sure how many, but I think it was around 30,000 Irish soldiers that were killed in the War...they had been fed a story that Ireland might be invaded by the Germans.....as far as I am concerned it would go totally against the grain in me to see anybody in Ireland wearing a poppy to commemorate WW1....perhaps we should wear some other flower to commemorate our own freedom.....albeit not total......
Maybe wear flowers to commemorate no wars of
Late on our shores and forget bloody wars altogether
Think peace and celebrate that
jt972: Maybe wear flowers to commemorate no wars of
Late on our shores and forget bloody wars altogether
Think peace and celebrate that
....how about a bit of peace on here so?......you're not too bad yourself when it comes to voicing your opinions on here.....you're well able to stir things up when the humour takes you.....Late on our shores and forget bloody wars altogether
Think peace and celebrate that
OgGoDeo: ....how about a bit of peace on here so?......you're not too bad yourself when it comes to voicing your opinions on here.....you're well able to stir things up when the humour takes you.....
Like when??
snowlynx: Instead of dealing with my points you change the subject and bring in things of no relevance from Aden, Malaya ext. Lol, you're a slippery fish Phoenix I'll give you that.....I've never seen anyone jump around like you, you're a hoor for the changing of a subject in the middle of an argument!
By the way if you really believed that 'very few else' think I'm making sense then you wouldn't bother saying it, you'd have no need to! Beneath your bluster there is a lack of self-confidence...who'd have thunk it lol.
By the way if you really believed that 'very few else' think I'm making sense then you wouldn't bother saying it, you'd have no need to! Beneath your bluster there is a lack of self-confidence...who'd have thunk it lol.
Pot, kettle, black... And he has confidence to make a comment
And put his face to it... He's more qualified than any of us
Here to comment having lived under British oppression
Can't argue with experience
stanley8m: in Flanders Fields
John McCrae
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
John McCrae
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
Copied from legion.ca
"In Canada, the Poppy has stood as a visual symbol of our Remembrance since 1921. However, its presence over the graves of soldiers, and in the fields of honour, was noted as early as the 19th century after the Napoleonic Wars. The reason for its adoption over 100 years later in Canada was due to, in no small part, Lieutenant-Colonel John McCrae and his now famous poem, “In Flanders Fields”.
This poem, written in May, 1915 on the day following the death of a fellow soldier, would serve as inspiration three years later for an American teacher, Moina Michael, who made a personal pledge after reading the poem to always wear a Poppy as a sign of Remembrance. In 1920, during a visit to the United States, a French woman, Madame Guerin, learned of the custom and decided to sell handmade Poppies to raise money for the children in war-torn areas of the country. Following her example, the Poppy was officially adopted by the Great War Veteran’s Association in Canada (our predecessor) as its Flower of Remembrance on July 5, 1921.
Today we encourage all Canadians to proudly wear a Poppy."
It's wasn't originally British, but was adopted by Canada, England, NZ and Australia all around the same time.
kidatheart: Copied from legion.ca
"In Canada, the Poppy has stood as a visual symbol of our Remembrance since 1921. However, its presence over the graves of soldiers, and in the fields of honour, was noted as early as the 19th century after the Napoleonic Wars. The reason for its adoption over 100 years later in Canada was due to, in no small part, Lieutenant-Colonel John McCrae and his now famous poem, “In Flanders Fields”.
This poem, written in May, 1915 on the day following the death of a fellow soldier, would serve as inspiration three years later for an American teacher, Moina Michael, who made a personal pledge after reading the poem to always wear a Poppy as a sign of Remembrance. In 1920, during a visit to the United States, a French woman, Madame Guerin, learned of the custom and decided to sell handmade Poppies to raise money for the children in war-torn areas of the country. Following her example, the Poppy was officially adopted by the Great War Veteran’s Association in Canada (our predecessor) as its Flower of Remembrance on July 5, 1921.
Today we encourage all Canadians to proudly wear a Poppy."It's wasn't originally British, but was adopted by Canada, England, NZ and Australia all around the same time.
"In Canada, the Poppy has stood as a visual symbol of our Remembrance since 1921. However, its presence over the graves of soldiers, and in the fields of honour, was noted as early as the 19th century after the Napoleonic Wars. The reason for its adoption over 100 years later in Canada was due to, in no small part, Lieutenant-Colonel John McCrae and his now famous poem, “In Flanders Fields”.
This poem, written in May, 1915 on the day following the death of a fellow soldier, would serve as inspiration three years later for an American teacher, Moina Michael, who made a personal pledge after reading the poem to always wear a Poppy as a sign of Remembrance. In 1920, during a visit to the United States, a French woman, Madame Guerin, learned of the custom and decided to sell handmade Poppies to raise money for the children in war-torn areas of the country. Following her example, the Poppy was officially adopted by the Great War Veteran’s Association in Canada (our predecessor) as its Flower of Remembrance on July 5, 1921.
Today we encourage all Canadians to proudly wear a Poppy."It's wasn't originally British, but was adopted by Canada, England, NZ and Australia all around the same time.
Exactly, the poppy is a symbol of remembrance and demonstrates empathy for the tragic loss of lives in futile conflict.
I hope we all take time today to remember those who died as a result of humanities inability to resolve issues by peaceful means.
My Father was in the 2nd World War (i have his medals as he is now deceased) Also my two Grandfathers where both in the 1st World Wars,in saying that i don't feel i can where a poppy after what happened in Derry and all other War Crimes since 1945.
R.I.P. to all who have suffered in Wars especially in Ireland.
R.I.P. to all who have suffered in Wars especially in Ireland.
Snowy how many times do you want me to say that the whole disappeared episode , like Kingsmills were war crimes.
Jean McConville was a British Agent and she knew the risks and paid the price for her betrayal..She shouldn't have been disappeared but the fact she was whacked, I have no qualms with.
Jean McConville was a British Agent and she knew the risks and paid the price for her betrayal..She shouldn't have been disappeared but the fact she was whacked, I have no qualms with.
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Were going to see off the oppression by the
British government and their terror campaign
Here? Fight the lot off them in hand to hand
Combat??
Thank The Lord the women of Ireland have
More than you to depend on if we,re ever invaded..
West brit
You are mixing up the terrorists with the legitimate army of the state here.
By the way the term 'west brit' is beloved of skangers. Are you a skanger jt? you certainly look like one!