Fight terrorism with terror??? (121)
@ but what we don't use them effectively.
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CapricornDancer: Send in the Foreign Legion, Ninjas, SAS, Marines, Special Forces ... it will be all over by Christmas ... Hmmmm ... sounds familiar. World War Two and a Half, anyone?
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minnieme2: An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth and the whole world will be blind and toothless.
Killing them is no punishment to them. They commit suicide anyway for their so called 'cause'. Lock them away on a secure island prison somewhere, lecture them with videos of how good life can be without terrorism! Keep showing them the opposite of what they believe.
Killing them is no punishment to them. They commit suicide anyway for their so called 'cause'. Lock them away on a secure island prison somewhere, lecture them with videos of how good life can be without terrorism! Keep showing them the opposite of what they believe.
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I believe by now the intelligence of the west has isolated them all where they are and so I propose to kill them all in a place where it doesn't cost humanity. End it and let all the peaceful people of the world celebrate...
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rebel2: Perhaps we should just offer to publically shoot Bush and Blair for starting this mess.
Why do you keep insisting it got started by them? It got started 800 years ago, read Sept. 11, 1863.
Now the immediate cause of this is Saddam Hussein invading Kuwait. Investment of oil was high from the West and of course it was legitimate for Bush and Blair to help Kuwait. Or you deny this as a fact?
Now where did the terrorist come from? As old as believing that their religion must and only be the only religion in this world.
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secretagent09: Well, you are an educated man Bode. I'm guessing that at one time in your life you told your boss that something wasn't a good idea and he said, what do you suggest. So, I ask you, if fighting ISIS with violence isn't your idea of making the world safe, how do you suggest we put an end to the massacres terrorists are forcing upon the world?
I am impressed with that question Secret.
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chris27292729: The tolerance of the West and other powerful countries,towards those
fanatics, is unacceptable.
I think, they need to be given, a military lesson,in that
area of the Middle East,controled by them.
If it is going to have any results, time will tell.
Dropping few bombs, now and then,as they do now,it looks like,
a ""hind and seek"" game.-
fanatics, is unacceptable.
I think, they need to be given, a military lesson,in that
area of the Middle East,controled by them.
If it is going to have any results, time will tell.
Dropping few bombs, now and then,as they do now,it looks like,
a ""hind and seek"" game.-
Chris, I am so appalled at our weakness to eliminate them.
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lindsyjones: Chris, I am so appalled at our weakness to eliminate them.
After reading all the comments Chris, I hope that we can find a solution to end all these killings. Doing it in public like one poster said, might only inflame them so just isolate them, decapitate all their resources and voila.
Reported accounts are also frozen as of the recent report. Now cut all their resources and voila.
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almera03: Fighting terrorism by bombing the odd individual isn't going to win anything. Unless there is a mass deployment of soldiers on the ground fighting ISIS then they will continue.
They recruit by appearing to be unbeatable, untouchable. They need to be hit hard and suddenly, it will demoralise the ranks. Problem is, the West do not seem to have the stomach any more for such a ground attack.
Vive la France
They recruit by appearing to be unbeatable, untouchable. They need to be hit hard and suddenly, it will demoralise the ranks. Problem is, the West do not seem to have the stomach any more for such a ground attack.
Vive la France
So let's make thousands of the young men that came to Europe go back and fight instead of living comfortably on social benefits.
Oh, we cannot rely on them? Who would have guessed
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123whisper: In regard to protest of Muslim communities in their respective host countries I meant as act of demonstrating solidarity against extremist in their own community. Leaders from mosque could make differences in stepping forward to talk about this issues in addressing them properly,instead many of mosque leaders avoiding to take this important role.Why ? In regard to sophisticated radar spotting training camps earlier,I am confident it was well located and perhaps some times things has to escalate before world realise that things will not be sorted out on it's own if something is not done about it.
The only ones that could bring change to Islam are the moderate Muslims themselves. But they do not seem to be willing. As for the mosques - it seems they are the problem and the centre of radicalisation. But no wonder, most mosques in Europe are financed by the Saudis.
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Smart Saudis.
They Know that every Muslim,at least ,once in his life has
to visit,Hajj,and circumambulate the Kaabid al-Haram, the grand
mosque in Mekka S, Arabia.
For religious rites, 5 million visitors every year,is not
a bad number, for the Saudi economy.-
Thats why, they finance the European mosques.
They Know that every Muslim,at least ,once in his life has
to visit,Hajj,and circumambulate the Kaabid al-Haram, the grand
mosque in Mekka S, Arabia.
For religious rites, 5 million visitors every year,is not
a bad number, for the Saudi economy.-
Thats why, they finance the European mosques.
Capricorn143: The only ones that could bring change to Islam are the moderate Muslims themselves. But they do not seem to be willing. As for the mosques - it seems they are the problem and the centre of radicalisation. But no wonder, most mosques in Europe are financed by the Saudis.
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so,it's not so far fetched to put the Fear of Whatever God they Pray to in them!
so,it's not so far fetched to put the Fear of Whatever God they Pray to in them!
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Capricorn143: The only ones that could bring change to Islam are the moderate Muslims themselves. But they do not seem to be willing. As for the mosques - it seems they are the problem and the centre of radicalisation. But no wonder, most mosques in Europe are financed by the Saudis.
I wonder if there is such thing as moderate muslims' ? Being in Muslim religion it's a way of life that's completely controlled by religious beliefs and being moderated sounds more as putting diplomatic facade to masckarade very essence of believer as apple can not drop fare from very roots of the three.I agree,mosque are not just praying place but very centre of radicalisation and mosque leaders can not speak against they're own beliefs that are very much opposite from what we hope hope for to find in showing solidarity and loyalty to host county and that's why we will never gat straight forward answer from mosque leaders to take responsibility in preaching against extremist but rather blame that 'west broth up things on themselves.' I do think there is two sides of every story and no one is innocent in mascarading and shifting all blame on someone else but what happen in Paris it's wake up call to unmasks all,on which side they stand for,loyalty to host country or where they come from....It's simple choice to chose where they want to live.------ This thread is Archived ------
Conrad73: That Brotherhood was created in your Neck of the Woods,Sunshine!
The Muslim Brotherhood is an Islamic organization that was founded in Ismailia, Egypt by Hassan al-Banna in March 1928 as an Islamist religious, political, and social movement.
The Muslim Brotherhood is an Islamic organization that was founded in Ismailia, Egypt by Hassan al-Banna in March 1928 as an Islamist religious, political, and social movement.
And supported by Valerie Jarret and Co in the Whitehouse. Although she's been sidelined recently there's others.
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chris27292729: Execute terrorists, in public????
Yes???
No ???
You lost your mind,manYes???
No ???
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Leo_7: You lost your mind,man
Hmmm...
AFP
26.11.2015.
Two police, four 'radical Islamists' killed in Azerbaijan raid
Baku (AFP) - Two policemen and four alleged members of a radical Islamist group have been killed in a shootout during a raid in Azerbaijan, the interior ministry said Thursday.
The suspects opened fire when police attempted to arrest "leaders of an unregistered radical Islamist group," the ministry said in a statement.
The group, called the Movement for Muslim Unity, "resisted the police officers, who were attacked with a grenade and automatic fire," the statement said, without specifying when the incident in the village of Nardaran north of Baku took place.
"As a result, four group members were liquidated and several more injured. Two policemen died in the clash." Fourteen people were arrested, including the leader of the group Tale Bagirzade, authorities said.
The raid on the organisation was ordered following an "investigation" that showed that "this group is planning provocations, mass unrest and acts of terror in order to disrupt the socio-political stability in the country."
The ministry said the group's goal was to establish a sharia state in Azerbaijan, a majority Shia Muslim but secular country headed by strongman President Ilham Aliyev.
The Movement for Muslim Unity earlier this month organised a protest near Baku against the detention of another group leader Elchin Gasymov. Police arrested but later released several people.
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you need to kill all the terrorists , kill them all
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123whisper: I wonder if there is such thing as moderate muslims' ? Being in Muslim religion it's a way of life that's completely controlled by religious beliefs and being moderated sounds more as putting diplomatic facade to masckarade very essence of believer as apple can not drop fare from very roots of the three.I agree,mosque are not just praying place but very centre of radicalisation and mosque leaders can not speak against they're own beliefs that are very much opposite from what we hope hope for to find in showing solidarity and loyalty to host county and that's why we will never gat straight forward answer from mosque leaders to take responsibility in preaching against extremist but rather blame that 'west broth up things on themselves.' I do think there is two sides of every story and no one is innocent in mascarading and shifting all blame on someone else but what happen in Paris it's wake up call to unmasks all,on which side they stand for,loyalty to host country or where they come from....It's simple choice to chose where they want to live.
The problem is that Islam is more than the religion and the west is making a mistake by refusing to see that it is an ideology more than a religion. I am not sure if Paris was a wake-up call, unfortunately, many still look for excuses and relativize everything - yeah yeah Christianity is just as bad - it WAS, but the problem now is elsewhere.
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stickyboots: you need to kill all the terrorists , kill them all
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I could not follow you about this mosque leaders,, i never been in a mosque,, and if i will ask some of my muslim friends,, it's either they don't know or they will again fournish me an answer base on their own understanding which might be not relevant to the issue.
Here in France,, there's a separation between the church/religion from the state,,i think most of the societie's failure is an effective awareness and efficient means/control on suspected individuals as they have the datas/informations shared among the EU member nations.
I could only share with you the side of France and Belgium as it is this essential question that remains to be answered by the authorities directly concerned,,, we have good "fishnets" what we don't use them effectively. Thank you.