Muslims are NOT Moderate: Western Muslims Admit the Truth ( Archived) (62)

We consider all religions in the light of Judaism and Christianity, assuming that tolerance, forgiveness, and "ten commandment"-type mandates are common to all religions. In other words we assume that Muslim is moderate when he acts "Christian" and a significant number of Muslims may "appear" moderate...but that is a construct of western society - wishful thinking and
there is no such thing as "moderate Islam"...
The only differences is that a certain percentage of Muslims are "nominal" Muslims, not fully knowledgeable about their faith; not fully practising their faith, like many "nominal Christians" (where I see myself too).
One who believes and practices the historic teachings of the Islamic ideology are certainly not "moderate" - at least not from the western Judeo-Christian perspective.
Therefore,a moderate could be defined as a Muslim who specifically disbelieves, discounts, or ignores these significant and widespread teachings throughout the Qur'an...but there is not a reliable criteria.

Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Prime Minister of the "moderate" Islamic nation of Turkey, said this:
"One cannot be a secularist and a Muslim at the same time. The Muslim world is waiting for Turkish people to rise up. The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets, and the faithful our soldiers...this holy army guards my religion."

Regarding democracy, he said: "You ride it until you arrive at your destination, then you step off."

And finally: "There is no "moderate" Islam. Islam is Islam and that's that."

Do you still believe in "moderate Islam"?

Secularism/Secular Society
is a political system in which religion does not dictate to, or interfere with, matters of state; one where religion and politics are formally separated, yet where religious freedom is guaranteed and protected.

Why Secular society is a Problem to Muslim countries ?
According to extensive studies of Muslim public opinion, a majority of Muslims want religious principles to be a source of legislation.
The term secularization is generally perceived as an attempt to recreate Muslim societies in the West’s image.

Note:
In practice, Western secular states preclude the abolition of religion and religious values and endorse pluralism and religious freedom, even protecting them. In fact,many Western constitutions are based on religious (Christian) values, and many political leaders speak openly about their faith. The French concept of laicism, or laicite, denotes the strict separation of public and private, or non-interference of religion in politics and vice versa (often associated with France and Turkey). This is
usually considered a more severe or strict form of secularism.
In Turkey and France,laicism actively confines religion to the private sphere.
Most Muslims are religious and want some role for religion in public life, exacerbating already-prevalent feelings among Muslims that the West has disrespect for their religious values.

I have met many nice people of Muslim religion and of course that I do not see all of them as terrorist but I don't see them as friend of democracy ether.

Is it propaganda that Shari‘a is a democratic system ???

Shari‘a is often considered, especially in the West, as an archaic legal system best known for cutting off the hands of thieves and stoning adulterers; it is seen as written in stone and not open for interpretation or customization, and even contrary to universal codes of human rights.
In fact, shari‘a is the framework from which Islamic law is derived.
It is similar to Jewish Halakhah and Catholic
Canon Law.
Different Islamic schools of jurisprudence have their own ways of
interpreting shari‘a.

Islamophobia,is much like bigotry aimed in the past at Irish and Italians and countless other groups who eventually were integrated nicely into American society, with one key difference: None of those groups had a visible subgroup that claimed to speak for the larger group and which threatened to destroy America and the larger West.

So why most western countries fears of Islamisation as very real threat that will destroy host countries ?

"Moderate Muslims" spend a great deal of time claiming that any discrimination against Muslims is unwarranted,but it might make a big difference if 'moderate Muslim' spend a little more time discriminating against the fundamentalists who quietly support the murderous nihilism of the violent extremists...
Progressives Muslim or if you like to call them 'moderate Muslim' tend to sit quietly at the dinner table when their fundo-fanatic uncle or mother rages about the evils of the West. Then, the progressives may go out to a bar and lead secret lives away from the fundos.
The simple truth is that the progressives’ self-serving silence has emboldened the fundos to believe that there is a fundo consensus within their own communities, whether they be in Michigan, England or Pakistan — a fundo consensus that blurs the line between sharia and secular democracy, between ordinary political grievances and violent struggle.