Muslims are NOT Moderate: Western Muslims Admit the Truth (62)
123whisper: With all respect,intelligent men would understand that this thread is about does moderate muslims exist as myth or not.Every crime should be punishable,no matter if is in question Catholic priest or Jewish Rabbi or who ever...but the point is ...while everyone can freely criticise or make parody or comedy on any Christian religion, we should also feel free to criticism of muslim double standard...and discover what is behind myth that most of us like to believe in moderate muslims.
Exactly Thea. The bottom line to me is we can't completely separate the good from the bad when it's right before our eyes what's justify their killing. I would rather that I will put my benefit of the doubt behind me on this one and at best my next alternative is to keep believing that indeed they're good people and therefore safe to be with them. Would I put my complete trust that I'd be safe? I would be stupid for me to undermine their loyalty and intelligence to partially follow their book isn't it Kaet and Krema did a good job I support of these argument.
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lindsyjones: The bottom line is it is against the law to kill with or without religion imagine us allowing a religion that blatantly and deliberately advocate killing. So what can we say about this?? If we were to follow human laws why the hell do we allow a religion with 1.3 billion of them incite to murder? I don't get it.
I believe most people don't know anything about Islam. that includes the gov.
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stringman: I believe most people don't know anything about Islam. that includes the gov.
Now that is the truth John. How stupid is our government to let this fact slips in our law. Freedom of religion what the hell is this about?
I will post a new thread just for this John.
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JoyCrest: Indeed, there are no moderate Muslims.... those peaceful Muslims according to the Quran principle are hypocrites
straight on and finally someone said it....and it's the same for christianity and etc...all religions are intolerant to each other and there's nothing peaceful with them
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KremaP: You can be sure that a Muslim will never say he is an atheist...
It doesn't make them a potential terrorists but that is not the problem too. Their power comes from the belief that their way is the best way, they will not kill you but they will impose their will on you and change your life so it serves their belief...
It doesn't make them a potential terrorists but that is not the problem too. Their power comes from the belief that their way is the best way, they will not kill you but they will impose their will on you and change your life so it serves their belief...
these so called "power" comes from hard brainwashing from the early age...still a lot of them are atheist, even tough they don't know or can't say it loud
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stringman: I believe most people don't know anything about Islam. that includes the gov.
I think no one knows better about Islam but EU countries who already suffered true history under Islam tyranny and perhaps that's why some European countries more resisting than others...------ This thread is Archived ------
JoyCrest: Indeed, there are no moderate Muslims.... those peaceful Muslims according to the Quran principle are hypocrites....
Hypocrites or maybe sincerely do not know because some not following their faith...and only when same people become majority than it be too late for us to discover the true face...------ This thread is Archived ------
poison2016: straight on and finally someone said it....and it's the same for christianity and etc...all religions are intolerant to each other and there's nothing peaceful with them
Exactly Joy.
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poison2016: these so called "power" comes from hard brainwashing from the early age...still a lot of them are atheist, even tough they don't know or can't say it loud
You have a good point...specially when Muslim's lives under the law and society where Muslim's might feel oppressed or living in mix marriage. Generally speaking,some Bosnian Muslim's might be a bit different because most of them probably still have mental influence from forma socialist Yugoslavian system, while at the same time many of them still cursing Turks for turning their back on them and as well looking up to Istanbul ...remembering power of Ottoman empire...Unfortunately many ISIS has route true Bosnia to enjoy nice holiday with secret blessings of Muslim Bosnian politician's...but thanks to powerful Serbian influences and Croatian voices in Bosnians parliament this things comes out to light.------ This thread is Archived ------
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TheRedSquirrel87: Diversity is the one that makes me laugh. You could say we export democracy and human rights through globalisation, but diversity? No. Diversity is a mirage and whoever uses it the most almost always seem to be a lemming. Our diverse global world is one of 7 billion consumers eating, buying, doing and believing more or less the same thing. It's anything but actually diverse.
If diversity was an actual motive we'd leave Islam alone and in tact warts n all. We would not want to sanitise islam because we can't face one part of the earth being that much different to our part of the earth. In practice we don't care at all about diversity and that's we why we want to mix everyone together and remove all barriers between people. Unity and sameness as defined by white consumer-liberals is what is trying to be built by globalisation and the problem is that if easy living consumer society fails then the underlying unnatural mixings of people will lead to strife and oppression. Tolerance comes easy when it's easy to eat, but if life in liberal society ever gets tough, then it'll burst into pieces like a frog.
The idea to remove all barriers between people it's noble and holy motive If diversity was an actual motive we'd leave Islam alone and in tact warts n all. We would not want to sanitise islam because we can't face one part of the earth being that much different to our part of the earth. In practice we don't care at all about diversity and that's we why we want to mix everyone together and remove all barriers between people. Unity and sameness as defined by white consumer-liberals is what is trying to be built by globalisation and the problem is that if easy living consumer society fails then the underlying unnatural mixings of people will lead to strife and oppression. Tolerance comes easy when it's easy to eat, but if life in liberal society ever gets tough, then it'll burst into pieces like a frog.
but unfortunately Islam is religion that only recognises itself as holy and rightful power to rule the world...We will be really in big trouble if Muslim's becomes majority in Europe and elsewhere...
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stringman
Thank you for sharing...
Thank you for sharing...
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123whisper: The idea to remove all barriers between people it's noble and holy motive but unfortunately Islam is religion that only recognises itself as holy and rightful power to rule the world...We will be really in big trouble if Muslim's becomes majority in Europe and elsewhere...
They do not even have to become a majority dear Wisper:
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone.
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings) . Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats .
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning.
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare.
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim. Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
How many are there is Europe? Add to their numbers the huge number of politically correct and the weak relativists and apologists, who act as muslims supporters....
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Capricorn143: They do not even have to become a majority dear Wisper:
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone.
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings) . Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats .
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning.
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare.
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim. Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.How many are there is Europe? Add to their numbers the huge number of politically correct and the weak relativists and apologists, who act as muslims supporters....
Dearest Capricorn,thank you for elaborating all this very important details. I always enjoy reading your enlightening sharp intelligent clear presented perception.As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone.
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings) . Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats .
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning.
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare.
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim. Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.How many are there is Europe? Add to their numbers the huge number of politically correct and the weak relativists and apologists, who act as muslims supporters....
The week relativist and apologists do act as Muslim's supporters who prefers to put all religion in one big pot of making as all equal scam bag's...without considering anything gets obvious that's happening in Europe and elsewhere. I wander where this self betrayal comes from ?Is it fear of being minority in it's own country? ------ This thread is Archived ------
123whisper: Dearest Capricorn,thank you for elaborating all this very important details. I always enjoy reading your enlightening sharp intelligent clear presented perception. The week relativist and apologists do act as Muslim's supporters who prefers to put all religion in one big pot of making as all equal scam bag's...without considering anything gets obvious that's happening in Europe and elsewhere. I wander where this self betrayal comes from ?Is it fear of being minority in it's own country?
Hi dear former neighbour
I am really tired of listening to these relativists and apologists and I just wish they would be honest with themselves for once in their lives! If they just admitted that they would not be able to think with their own heads and say what they think in a muslim country, then they should just shut up!
They would be the first to convert, I am sure.
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Capricorn143: Hi dear former neighbour
I am really tired of listening to these relativists and apologists and I just wish they would be honest with themselves for once in their lives! If they just admitted that they would not be able to think with their own heads and say what they think in a muslim country, then they should just shut up!
They would be the first to convert, I am sure.
Dearest Capricorn, my forma neighbour,I am really tired of listening to these relativists and apologists and I just wish they would be honest with themselves for once in their lives! If they just admitted that they would not be able to think with their own heads and say what they think in a muslim country, then they should just shut up!
They would be the first to convert, I am sure.
you have read my mind ...I also think this confused relativist and apologists would be first to convert...because of comforter privileges they will sell their soul to Devil.
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WTH is wrong with the Belgium and the West in general?
At least 50 ISIS symphatizers work at Brussels airport, the police say. They have supposedly warned the employers, but the jihadis remain employed!
WTH don't the police arrest them?
At least 50 ISIS symphatizers work at Brussels airport, the police say. They have supposedly warned the employers, but the jihadis remain employed!
WTH don't the police arrest them?
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A complete reading of the Quran, the Muslim bible, reveals the violent teachings that inspire Muslim terrorists. Most upwardly mobile Muslims living in a secular democracy may not engage in these violent activities, but they bring their reverence for the philosophy with them and who knows when one of their sons will pick up the Quran and read the teachings of Muhammad and go and do likewise. Beatings, beheadings and bigamy are all part of the Muslim teachings. Islam is more of a political philosophy, like fascism, capitalism, communism, socialism etc. than a religion, and needs to be examined and debated as such. The American idea of religion is that it is a personal and private search for God, not a mandate to control other people. Islam on the other hand is all about worldly laws and mandates to control others.
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Sunflower2018: A complete reading of the Quran, the Muslim bible, reveals the violent teachings that inspire Muslim terrorists. Most upwardly mobile Muslims living in a secular democracy may not engage in these violent activities, but they bring their reverence for the philosophy with them and who knows when one of their sons will pick up the Quran and read the teachings of Muhammad and go and do likewise. Beatings, beheadings and bigamy are all part of the Muslim teachings. Islam is more of a political philosophy, like fascism, capitalism, communism, socialism etc. than a religion, and needs to be examined and debated as such. The American idea of religion is that it is a personal and private search for God, not a mandate to control other people. Islam on the other hand is all about worldly laws and mandates to control others.
You couldn't have said it better specially the last sentence. Control. I couldn't agree more. So what should we do, the victims and possible victims of this violent and controlling religion?
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Islam, like Christianity, has many branches, some good some evil.
So by the logic shown in this thread, A Catholic priest who abuses a child is no different than a baptist minister, or a Jewish Rabbi, whereas the intelligent can separate them apart.
The basic fact is, Any extremism is bad, whatever the belief, faith or religion