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Jul 23, 2016 11:35 AM CST shooting in Germany
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
Oh, yeah, another try to calm the masses down...
Many "converted" to Christianity on arrival...
I wouldn't trust anybody who so easily change their believes...
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Jul 23, 2016 11:39 AM CST shooting in Germany
KremaP: Oh, yeah, another try to calm the masses down...
Many "converted" to Christianity on arrival...
I wouldn't trust anybody who so easily change their believes...


Neither would I.

I don't think this shooting has anything to do with religion.
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Jul 23, 2016 11:55 AM CST shooting in Germany
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
Aragorn11: Neither would I.

I don't think this shooting has anything to do with religion.






You know, I actually agree with you.
Young men like him who take the pleasures from the Western life can not be religious in the real meaning of the word.
But following the Islamic Ideology , the grooming in the name of a blurred idea seems to be so easily achieved it brings a question why, and why so many young are falling for it... dunno
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Jul 23, 2016 12:07 PM CST shooting in Germany
KremaP: You know, I actually agree with you.
Young men like him who take the pleasures from the Western life can not be religious in the real meaning of the word.
But following the Islamic Ideology , the grooming in the name of a blurred idea seems to be so easily achieved it brings a question why,and why so many young are falling for it...


I think it fills a void in people, especially young.
We all, to some extent, want to fit in, or be a part of something where we are valued. This extremism offers that.
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Jul 23, 2016 12:16 PM CST shooting in Germany
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
Aragorn11: I think it fills a void in people, especially young.
We all, to some extent, want to fit in, or be a part of something where we are valued. This extremism offers that.


Link to the news that he had a picture of Breivik, thanks.
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Jul 23, 2016 12:18 PM CST shooting in Germany
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
Aragorn11: I think it fills a void in people, especially young.
We all, to some extent, want to fit in, or be a part of something where we are valued. This extremism offers that.





And there is one very serious part in the way Arabs look at the importance of life...
It is extremely easy for them to solve a problem by taking someone's life.
It was bloody scary to see the determination in their eyes when talking of revenge and unsettle issues, even when the topic was business.
If they have problem with you, they won't hesitate to eliminate you. And I have seen it in action...
You can't take it away from them, it's in the genes...unfortunately...
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Jul 23, 2016 12:49 PM CST shooting in Germany
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
Just seen Angela Merkel's speech about the shooting, she says the details are still to be investigated.
The question is why she took so long to speak?!
Yesterday they said there were three people shooting in three different places, all Munich was besieged, and today, one teenager, one gun...yeah, something fishy is going on...
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Jul 23, 2016 12:51 PM CST shooting in Germany
Capricorn143: Link to the news that he had a picture of Breivik, thanks.


Can't copy and paste as Mouse is still broken doh

It apparently was on his Whatsapp not snapchat.

Daily Mail Munich WhatsApp Profile Brievik will find it for you thumbs up
It is the Daily Mail unfortunately, but various comments coming out of Munich's authorities have attested to links with Brievik.

I find it extremely interesting the evidence you ask for and yet outlandish claims in this thread go without asking for same. thumbs up
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Jul 23, 2016 12:55 PM CST shooting in Germany
KremaP: And there is one very serious part in the way Arabs look at the importance of life...
It is extremely easy for them to solve a problem by taking someone's life.
It was bloody scary to see the determination in their eyes when talking of revenge and unsettle issues, even when the topic was business.
If they have problem with you, they won't hesitate to eliminate you. And I have seen it in action...
You can't take it away from them, it's in the genes...unfortunately...


I don't agree.
For some, white, black red orange, life is cheap, always was and always will be unfortunately. I understand some ppl want to make this an Arab thing, but based on the evidence so far, this is a mental health thing and comparable tragedies of this nature worldwide do not show it to be an Arab thing, its a human thing.
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Jul 23, 2016 1:01 PM CST shooting in Germany
Capricorn143
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Aragorn11: Can't copy and paste as Mouse is still broken

It apparently was on his Whatsapp not snapchat.

Daily Mail Munich WhatsApp Profile Brievik will find it for you
It is the Daily Mail unfortunately, but various comments coming out of Munich's authorities have attested to links with Brievik.

I find it extremely interesting the evidence you ask for and yet outlandish claims in this thread go without asking for same.


I asked because it just does not make sense to me, Breivik sympathisezers I guess would have targeted someone else, not ordinary public. Plus you had ridiculed another poster mentioning the news you did not like.

Everything seems very fishy - people here in Garmisch talk about 3 attacks in different places in Munich, and now all of a sudden there is talk about one only.
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Jul 23, 2016 1:09 PM CST shooting in Germany
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
Aragorn11: I don't agree.
For some, white, black red orange, life is cheap, always was and always will be unfortunately. I understand some ppl want to make this an Arab thing, but based on the evidence so far, this is a mental health thing and comparable tragedies of this nature worldwide do not show it to be an Arab thing, its a human thing.





You didn't understand me,
it is very normal there to resolve an issue by eliminating the person, and nobody will even look for him... Speaking thousands of people, especially from poor regions who work for rich monsters...

It can't happen here...
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Jul 23, 2016 1:12 PM CST shooting in Germany
KremaP: You didn't understand me,
it is very normal there to resolve an issue by eliminating the person, and nobody will even look for him... Speaking thousands of people, especially from poor regions who work for rich monsters...

It can't happen here...


Am not sure what his parents are like, deeply religious or not religious.
Being born in Germany and educated in Germany you would hope that is not the case here, but who knows.

No, I agree, it shouldn't be allowed to happen here.
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Jul 23, 2016 1:22 PM CST shooting in Germany
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
Aragorn11: Am not sure what his parents are like, deeply religious or not religious.
Being born in Germany and educated in Germany you would hope that is not the case here, but who knows.

No, I agree, it shouldn't be allowed to happen here.






The sad thing is that so far all the terror acts were carried out by people born and raised or seeking and given asylum in the host countries...
I know, I am a hardliner in my opinion based on experience, but the reality shows that there is something in the blood, no one can change...
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Jul 23, 2016 1:27 PM CST shooting in Germany
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
KremaP: The sad thing is that so far all the terror acts were carried out by people born and raised or seeking and given asylum in the host countries...
I know, I am a hardliner in my opinion based on experience, but the reality shows that there is something in the blood, no one can change...


I keep on saying that the problem is in the numbers - such numbers cannot be integrated, people with such strong beliefs cannot be integrated - the parents that claim they are surprised must have instilled the religious beliefs in their 2nd, 3rd generation off spring finding every possible way to stop them from becoming too "western".
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Jul 23, 2016 1:40 PM CST shooting in Germany
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
Capricorn143: I keep on saying that the problem is in the numbers - such numbers cannot be integrated, people with such strong beliefs cannot be integrated - the parents that claim they are surprised must have instilled the religious beliefs in their 2nd, 3rd generation off spring finding every possible way to stop them from becoming too "western".







True that, and also the way they see the religion is nothing to do with the way we see it.
It is not a problem for any of us to choose not to be religious, that won't put a black spot on his personality.
But to deny your religion, the religion of your family and nation for hundreds of years for those people is a dramatic move, the guilt will remain deep inside and nothing good will come out of it...
I am off to sleep guys... Good night!
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Jul 23, 2016 1:40 PM CST shooting in Germany
Capricorn143: I guess this is the link you were referring to:


There actually was information in the news about finding IS documents, too, can't find the link now.

This is what happens when the media keeps on lying all the time and the police are incompetent.

The attacker certainly looks weird in the picture in this article.


With the greatest respect Capricorn, I don't believe that.

There is so many right wing news sites propulgating hate that this would have been picked up on and ran with.
Until someone proves it I refuse to believe this to be true.
As I say been reading and watching all day on this and not a whisper.
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Jul 23, 2016 1:55 PM CST shooting in Germany
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
Aragorn11: With the greatest respect Capricorn, I don't believe that.

There is so many right wing news sites propulgating hate that this would have been picked up on and ran with.
Until someone proves it I refuse to believe this to be true.
As I say been reading and watching all day on this and not a whisper.


Don't have time to look for it now, but I did see it and not in a right-wing paper. If I do not forget and find it later, will post it here, no promises though.
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Jul 23, 2016 6:29 PM CST shooting in Germany
robplum
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Jul 23, 2016 9:31 PM CST shooting in Germany
lifeisadream
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"Munich shooting: Teenage killer ... 'inspired by far-right terrorist Anders Breivik' and 'used Facebook offer of free McDonald's food to lure victims'"

"...launched his killing spree in the Bavarian city in an apparent revenge attack for being bullied. It is now thought he targeted youngsters of “Turkish and Arab” origin, having claimed those groups had picked on him in school."




sad flower
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Jul 23, 2016 11:46 PM CST shooting in Germany
robplum
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four killed in another Texas shooting few moments ago, don't think terrorist related
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